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Patch 1.02 for Eschalon says Shalom

Elwro

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Tags: Eschalon: Book I

That's right, <A HREF="http://basiliskgames.com/">Basilisk Games</A> are on a patching spree. Click <A HREF="http://basiliskgames.com/patches/eb1_102_update.exe">here</A> for the 1.2 update (you don't need to have patch 1.1 installed) and <A HREF="http://www.basiliskgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=624">here</A> for the patch notes. The developers write:
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<blockquote>Many of these bugs were rather obscure and would probably not affect most of you, but it is our goal to get all reported problems fixed as quickly as possible.</blockquote> Keep up the good work!
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Thanks, <strong>Shagnak</strong>!
 

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Just finished the thing. Didn't experience any bugs except crashes on reloading. Nothing I couldn't live with.

Oh, and RPGCodex gets a Special Thanks in the end credits.
 

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I'm still waiting for the loonix version. Might order the wintendo version anyway (just finished Witcher), since I heard you will be able to exchange the licenses.
 

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Hi, my first post on Codex, so Ohayo everybody!

Nice that Basilisk Games made Eschalon cross-platform, to bad that Witcher isn't.
 

Saxon1974

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MountainWest said:
Just finished the thing. Didn't experience any bugs except crashes on reloading. Nothing I couldn't live with.

Oh, and RPGCodex gets a Special Thanks in the end credits.

So what are your opinions on the game?
 

MountainWest

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Saxon1974 said:
MountainWest said:
Just finished the thing. Didn't experience any bugs except crashes on reloading. Nothing I couldn't live with.

Oh, and RPGCodex gets a Special Thanks in the end credits.

So what are your opinions on the game?

Fuck. I was thinking of writing a longer "review", but I've got a project to wrap up in the next couple of days. And time's, as usual, a bitch.

But what can I say in a few non-spell-non-grammar-checked, non-thought-through- words... If you didn't grow up with old school RPGs I have a hard time imagining you'll enjoy it. The enjoyment I got was the remembrance of days gone. Sure, that's exactly what Basilisk set out to do - creating a old skool rpg - but it's like they used the universal form for the genre and failed or didn't care to improve it a single bit. It really doesn't excell at anything. The main story is thin as paper. There's only about 12-15 (give or take some) "nodes" to pass before finishing the game. I uncovered every map and it took me about 23 hours.

The combat involves some tactics in what weapons/spells you use (you will die if you try brute force, at least I did) but compared with the combat in the games it tries to mimic the combat feels gimped since you only have one character to issue orders to. Turn-based thrives best with a party imo.

The NPCs are bland and few. You choose what you want to say from a couple of lines and get a page or less of text thrown back at you. A style I really don't like. It hardly conveys a feeling of interaction. No back and forth. It's like talking to a book. Ultima Lazarus used a similar - but more evolved - style and did it a hell of a lot better.

The quests are all of the go there, kill that, fetch this-kind, and lack depth.

The exploration is probably Eschalons redeeming point. There's a lot of land to uncover and chests to be found (most contains random lot). I'm an explorer by heart so I couldn't quit until I had uncovered the last bit of land. Also, there's flavour text triggered here and there which I like.

There are choices on how to proceed in the game - i.e. different paths - but I don't think they bear any major consequences with them (could be totally wrong on this one though).

Character creation is somewhat fun. Most of the skills are useful and you're always thinking of where to put the next three points.

All in all it feels like they created the engine and then hurried with the story. Like they did exactly as much as they had to do to sell the game, and not a bit more.

However, I'll be checking out for book 2. With the engine done I hope Basilisk will lay their effort on creating a better and more fleshed out story and world. And thus create a game that's at least as good as the old ones.
 

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I didn't finish it yet, but my feelings echo Mountain West.

Eschalon 2 has been slated to be a party based game since E1 was announced, so that should make combat a little more interesting. I haven't minded the combat, but I could see it getting a bit old if the game wasn't so short.

And they really should look into hiring some of these fanfic writers on some of the vaporware games or even someone who did work on Lazarus.
 

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As much as I like the game, I agree that the writing and NPC's could be improved, but i think that is alot to ask for 1 guy to do along with making the game as well. I don't think the story is that bad, I thought it was pretty good, but yes that NPC's could be made a bit more interesting and the quests a bit more interesting as well....Still love the game and I agree exploration is the best part of it.

Im surprised Mountainwest that you finished in 23 hours because Im 24 hours in and there are still a handful of area's I have not been to yet. But then again, I am taking my time exploring and trying to find everyting there is to find in the game and doing all the side quests.

I don't want this game too end :(
 

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Saxon1974 said:
As much as I like the game, I agree that the writing and NPC's could be improved, but i think that is alot to ask for 1 guy to do along with making the game as well. I don't think the story is that bad, I thought it was pretty good, but yes that NPC's could be made a bit more interesting and the quests a bit more interesting as well....Still love the game and I agree exploration is the best part of it.
The writing is certainly the weakest point of the game but at one point in the main story you meet a relative and that was quite good. Very touching.
 

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Saxon1974 said:
As much as I like the game, I agree that the writing and NPC's could be improved, but i think that is alot to ask for 1 guy to do along with making the game as well. I don't think the story is that bad, I thought it was pretty good, but yes that NPC's could be made a bit more interesting and the quests a bit more interesting as well....Still love the game and I agree exploration is the best part of it.

Yes, he should definately get another content creator in the team. Maybe even from the community. (see Age of decadence)

Saxon1974 said:
Im surprised Mountainwest that you finished in 23 hours because Im 24 hours in
Did you estimated this, or used the ingame playing time measurement?

Saxon1974 said:
I don't want this game too end :(
Dito, i force myself to take slow steps forward questwise, because i know that i must have passed 50% already.
 

Saxon1974

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Amasius said:
Saxon1974 said:
As much as I like the game, I agree that the writing and NPC's could be improved, but i think that is alot to ask for 1 guy to do along with making the game as well. I don't think the story is that bad, I thought it was pretty good, but yes that NPC's could be made a bit more interesting and the quests a bit more interesting as well....Still love the game and I agree exploration is the best part of it.
The writing is certainly the weakest point of the game but at one point in the main story you meet a relative and that was quite good. Very touching.

I don't think it is that bad though, I enjoy it.
 

Saxon1974

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Saxon1974 said:
Im surprised Mountainwest that you finished in 23 hours because Im 24 hours in
Did you estimated this, or used the ingame playing time measurement?

I use the in game time tracker. Is it not accurate?
 

Amasius

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Saxon1974 said:
Amasius said:
The writing is certainly the weakest point of the game but at one point in the main story you meet a relative and that was quite good. Very touching.

I don't think it is that bad though, I enjoy it.
I won't say that I've enjoyed it but it isn't so bad that it hindered me from having fun.
 

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