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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - coming November 20th

Gerrard

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It doesn't pay to return to any locations in SoC any more than absolutely necessary because level changers are what triggers enemy spawns like the mercs in wild territory.
 

Iucounu

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It doesn't pay to return to any locations in SoC any more than absolutely necessary because level changers are what triggers enemy spawns like the mercs in wild territory.
In Wild Territory you often encounter replacement Bandits migrating from the Bar Area. Don't know how the Mercs get there, but they'll disappear permanently from the level later in the game (maybe after you disable the Brain Scorcher).
 

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what mainstream shooters are you even comparing it to? crediting a FPS game with anything resembling a realistic gun with having bloom/spread and headshots is like crediting a lake for having water. the bullet spread is also so fucking fake in SOC because all of the low tier rifles will shoot the same as a makarov so long range combat is impossible and you can't hit a torso at 50m without 2/3 bullets missing, even while crouched and still (oh and crouching also magically decreases the bullet spread by like 50%)
- every bullet is physically simulated, no hitscan shit
- bullet drop
- ricochets (you can kill people with ricochets too)
- penetration values for different ammo types
- bullet velocities
- grenade physics: game engine actually simulates shrapnel from grenades

Spread and damage distribution for weapons are bollocks, but this is the input values by the choice of game designers because MUH BALINCE, the core system is nothing but solid

Few things more satisfying than headshot with Vintorez against moving target from 100m
There's also the Flatness, very important for snipers and sniping, as you want to make the bullet fly in a straight path.
STALKER put a lot of thought and work into this stuff compared to other bland and generic military shooters.
 

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Confirmed by GSC:
https://www.facebook.com/gscgameworld

Will use Unreal Engine 4?:

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They want me to stop watching the video?
 
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Watched latest trailer, realized that they're using American voice actors and not Ukrainian actors speaking English with a Ukrainian accent.

Total fucking bullshit.

I'm a Ukrainian American who has never been to Ukraine and the main appeal of the original games were the genuine Ukrainian atmosphere, almost as if I was visiting Chernobyl and Pripyat in-person.

It doesn't make sense to use American voice actors in this context, it's about as bad as American movies that hire British actors to play a European character, regardless of whether they're from Brittain or not.

Fuck, I would accept American voice actors doing their best to speak with a fake Ukrainian/Russian accent, LOL... But I'll settle for using Ukrainian audio in-game with English subtitles!
Why would the characters speak English with a Ukranian/Russian accent?

When non-english speaking characters speak English in movies or games, they are not actually speaking English in-world. You are supposed to assume they are speaking in their native language, the use of English is just a device for the audience to understand the dialogue. So adding an accent to the dub is kinda dumb, although I agree it adds atmosphere.

I assume they will add a subtitle system to the game this time, so for maximum atmosphere you could just play it in Ukranian with English subtitles.

STALKER NPC's should speak English with Ukrainian accents because STALKER is a first-person game and that's how they would most effectively communicate with me IRL so it's best that way for the purpose of immersion.

That's also the way that the original STALKER games are dubbed. Obviously I'll be listening to the Ukrainian translation with English subs if available. In fact, all foreign (non-Ukrainian) translations should be spoken with Ukrainian accents too. But for simplicity's sake, GSC Gameworld should just release the game with Ukrainian dialogue and all other languages as subtitles... Listening to American voice actors depicting native Ukrainian mercenaries is obviously dumbed down for the console market and basically reminds me of COD.

Half of the atmosphere in the original games come from their ability to set themselves apart from generic AAA shooters since it takes place in Ukraine, stars Ukrainians, was developed by a Ukrainian game company, and is the best eurojank IP I've ever played.
 

Iucounu

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Listening to American voice actors depicting native Ukrainian mercenaries is obviously dumbed down for the console market and basically reminds me of COD.
It wouldn't be very patriotic either, something which seems very important to Ukraineans these days (at least in public).

Half of the atmosphere in the original games come from their ability to set themselves apart from generic AAA shooters since it takes place in Ukraine, stars Ukrainians, was developed by a Ukrainian game company, and is the best eurojank IP I've ever played.
Indeed, any East European voice acting accent would do the job better than an American accent, regardless of country. At least for non-East European players, since we generally can't tell the difference between the various East European cultures anyway (sorry).
 
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still not calling it "chornobyl" its fucking CHERNOBYL. fuck ZELENSKY. this game is probably going to suck and be loved by NIGGERS and still get amazing pity reviews because UKRAINE is getting assraped by ZIGGERS!

Ukraine is almost completely free of black people.

Jews and gypsies are their most hated minorities AFAIK.
 

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Voice acting is one of the defining features of SoC (and sequels), it is simply gold. English voiceover is nowhere near that good

ukr voiceover is not bad too: though it was created after the release of the game (for all three games), some factions retained Russian language, some were translated to ukr, and bandits talk in surzhik. Although it is buggy: in some cases characters speak in ukr and then use untranslated Russian lines

I think some mods use pure original Russian voiceovers but add surzhik voiceovers for bandits because of the hilarity
 

Iucounu

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Voice acting is one of the defining features of SoC (and sequels), it is simply gold. English voiceover is nowhere near that good
The English in SoC and CS is OK as well, at least it never annoyed me. But I must disagree about Call of Pripyat --the English version is awful, and most of the Russian (Ukrainean?) is just bland. Maybe the new lines from Bandits are OK, can't remember.
 

Ryzer

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I hate the english voice over of Stalker games, I wish we could have only full original VO + subtitles.

It's Ukraine, not Liverpool.
 

NecroLord

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Voice acting is one of the defining features of SoC (and sequels), it is simply gold. English voiceover is nowhere near that good
The English in SoC and CS is OK as well, at least it never annoyed me. But I must disagree about Call of Pripyat --the English version is awful, and most of the Russian (Ukrainean?) is just bland. Maybe the new lines from Bandits are OK, can't remember.
I rather like the goofy English voice acting in Call of Pripyat.
 

Iucounu

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Voice acting is one of the defining features of SoC (and sequels), it is simply gold. English voiceover is nowhere near that good
The English in SoC and CS is OK as well, at least it never annoyed me. But I must disagree about Call of Pripyat --the English version is awful, and most of the Russian (Ukrainean?) is just bland. Maybe the new lines from Bandits are OK, can't remember.
I rather like the goofy English voice acting in Call of Pripyat.
Even Hawaiian? :negative:
 

NecroLord

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Voice acting is one of the defining features of SoC (and sequels), it is simply gold. English voiceover is nowhere near that good
The English in SoC and CS is OK as well, at least it never annoyed me. But I must disagree about Call of Pripyat --the English version is awful, and most of the Russian (Ukrainean?) is just bland. Maybe the new lines from Bandits are OK, can't remember.
I rather like the goofy English voice acting in Call of Pripyat.
Even Hawaiian? :negative:
ALOOOOOOOHA!
 

NecroLord

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Is this due to radiation? :lol:

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A new variant of mutant has been spawned by The Zone.
It is called "The Nigger".
"The Nigger" is a very unpredictable creature with very poor impulse control and prone to fits of rage. It has a natural talent for stealing.
Stalkers should exercise caution around this mutant, and never relax.
Best thing to do is to just shoot it on sight.
 

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