Stronghold Crusader: Definitive Edition - Coming July 15th

[Vincente]

 

[Blutwurstritter]

It is astounding that Firefly Studios manages to stay alive by milking Stronghold and Stronghold: Crusaders, more than two decades since the original. The only thing more impressive is their ineptitude to improve upon these, considering their numerous attempts.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

The Definitive Edition has eight new units and four new lords, of whom two are women (because it's 2025).

 

[Dark Souls II]

The Definitive Edition has eight new units and four new lords, of whom two are women (because it's 2025).

- big manly hand
- veil to hide big manly mandible and adam's apple

Looks to me as if only one of the two women lords is a lady.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

I forgot to mention that half of the new lords are arab muslims...

 

[Beowulf]

I forgot to mention that half of the new lords are arab muslims...

Isn't it fitting for this setting?

 

[Feyd Rautha]

I forgot to mention that half of the new lords are arab muslims...

Isn't it fitting for this setting?

 

[Hace El Oso]

It looks like they're going to include coop skirmish this time. I can't believe they didn't do that for their release of regular Stronghold, but better late than never.

 

[JarlFrank]

The one thing I wanted Stronghold Definitive to add was skirmish maps, it's only castle defense or attack missions. Yeah, skirmish was only introduced in Crusader, but it's not like porting the map type back into the first game would have been a major difficulty.

 

[Lacrymas]

I tried the demo and even the first mission is fairly challenging, especially after not having played the original Crusader for a while. I still like the freedom of creativity with how you build your castle.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Sounds like at least one of the new units is female.

 

[Serus]

Was I the only one very disappointed at the time of original games' release? I'm not saying they were bad, had some charm but... The game had a "stronghold" word in its name and yes, you have fortifications but there zero, and mean zero, not only realism but even basic logic as to how they work. I just wanted a game where i could have fortresses portrayed semi-realistically and require actual sieges to capture or defend. I think i never was the target audience, not then and certainly not now.
Similar case with the very old "Castles" games from early 90s. Nice games for their times - a bit primitive by today standards, you could build but castles (duh) but the actual "sieges" were pathetic. I never found a good game on sieges of pre-modern fortresses/castles/cities/whatever with some simulation-ist elements. Don't have to be one for autists, just with mechanics that make some sense. Anyone knows some titles where you have sieges that are semi-realistic? Building fortifications by the player would be nice too but not necessary.

 

[Castozor]

Weren't most realistic sieges just a matter of starving the defender for months/years until they hopefully surrender? Best bet from what I've played would be something like Medieval Total War 2 but they are not that realistic, and every game in the series afterwards has particularly brain dead AI during sieges.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Weren't most realistic sieges just a matter of starving the defender for months/years until they hopefully surrender?

Not really? A lot of the time you don't exactly have... well, time to do something like that.

 

[VerSacrum]

Was I the only one very disappointed at the time of original games' release? I'm not saying they were bad, had some charm but... The game had a "stronghold" word in its name and yes, you have fortifications but there zero, and mean zero, not only realism but even basic logic as to how they work. I just wanted a game where i could have fortresses portrayed semi-realistically and require actual sieges to capture or defend. I think i never was the target audience, not then and certainly not now.
Similar case with the very old "Castles" games from early 90s. Nice games for their times - a bit primitive by today standards, you could build but castles (duh) but the actual "sieges" were pathetic. I never found a good game on sieges of pre-modern fortresses/castles/cities/whatever with some simulation-ist elements. Don't have to be one for autists, just with mechanics that make some sense. Anyone knows some titles where you have sieges that are semi-realistic? Building fortifications by the player would be nice too but not necessary.

Classic Total War, I guess. Flawed due to AI spergouts but it's the closest we got. I think the best ones were in Shogun 2 because because of the polish of its mechanics. And it was nice how, after you got gunpowder, it completely changed the siege gameplay.

 

[AdamReith]

They seem to have a pretty terrible track record since Crusaders so probably best to avoid this.