Xbox Scorpio will be most powerfull console sporting 6 teraflop GPU

[ultimanecat]

Games look "decent enough" on modern consoles, but it's not because there's less overhead. They had the capability of low-to-mid range gaming PCs when they released, and the games have generally reflected that. Development is simply targeted toward that low benchmark - with the understanding that console gamers are apparently insensitive to sub 1080p (and occasionally sub HD) and/or dynamic resolutions, variable framerates, and slightly muddy textures or poor lighting. If we're lucky when it's brought to PC those sorts of issues are cleaned up, but that's generally all we are getting: the best possible version of a game designed to run on medium settings at 640p on the XBone.

 

[Leechmonger]

That's just an excuse incompetent devs like to throw around. It's not 1995 anymore.

The excuse doesn't even make sense since most console titles don't run at 60fps, and many have areas where the framerate dips below 30. If developing on consoles is easier, why can't they get it right?

 

[sullynathan]

That's just an excuse incompetent devs like to throw around. It's not 1995 anymore.

The excuse doesn't even make sense since most console titles don't run at 60fps, and many have areas where the framerate dips below 30. If developing on consoles is easier, why can't they get it right?

Console devs are compromising. They target 60fps for multiplayer and 30fps for single player since they've realized that they can't have 60fps and ultra quality graphics. Some like NiOh, finally give the option for 30fps or 60fps.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

The excuse doesn't even make sense since most console titles don't run at 60fps, and many have areas where the framerate dips below 30. If developing on consoles is easier, why can't they get it right?

Because optimization is not magic voodoo mojo that will make any game run on 1080/60. Consoles do have less overhead and are easier to optimize for, but you can only so much on a box that's equivalent of a 2007 mid-range PC. It's a small miracle that console games can even run 1080p in 30 fps on ~Medium settings, given what's inside.

 

[Wilian]

Microsoft did hint Scorpio won't be a cheap console. Neither are they interested to bury Playstation. I think they just make another one to keep the brand alive and their development community busy. In profits terms, Xbox has been peanuts and MS is okay with that.

Peanuts is overstating it, creating Xbox brand has cost Microsoft 10 billion and they've never actually profited from it all in all. Why do you think there's regular news of stockholders wanting to get rid of Xbox franchice? :D

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Microsoft did hint Scorpio won't be a cheap console. Neither are they interested to bury Playstation. I think they just make another one to keep the brand alive and their development community busy. In profits terms, Xbox has been peanuts and MS is okay with that.

Peanuts is overstating it, creating Xbox brand has cost Microsoft 10 billion and they've never actually profited from it all in all. Why do you think there's regular news of stockholders wanting to get rid of Xbox franchice? :D

That's what I meant, peanuts compared to it's Windows, Office and .Net business. Xbox simply isn't that vital to MS.

 

[taxalot]

Isn't 6 TFlops not that much of an improvement if you consider the law of diminishing returns that has hit computer graphics ?
I can hardly tell the difference between PS3 and PS4.

 

[sullynathan]

I can hardly tell the difference between PS3 and PS4.

you sure?

 

[taxalot]

Yes.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Microsoft did hint Scorpio won't be a cheap console. Neither are they interested to bury Playstation. I think they just make another one to keep the brand alive and their development community busy. In profits terms, Xbox has been peanuts and MS is okay with that.

Peanuts is overstating it, creating Xbox brand has cost Microsoft 10 billion and they've never actually profited from it all in all. Why do you think there's regular news of stockholders wanting to get rid of Xbox franchice? :D

That's what I meant, peanuts compared to it's Windows, Office and .Net business. Xbox simply isn't that vital to MS.

And it's not that unusual in these huge corporations. Google has spent last decade taking losses on everything except the search, and they don't really give a shit either. Search makes the money, everything else is to fulfill long-term strategic goals.

 

[shihonage]

There is a noticeable difference in looks between early PS3/XBox 360 titles and the later ones (GTA5, The Last Of Us). This is because developers figured out the optimizations better. This has always been true, they even ported Quake2 to the PS1 at one point with lighting effects intact. This is on a console without Z-buffer, with 2mb of RAM and 33mhz CPU.

PS2 had FPS like "Black" (I believe) which had physics, and emulated shader effects without GPU shaders, etc.

Of course I suspect the more consoles become like PCs, the more complex their OS becomes, the more "features" they shove in there that nobody needs, the more plans they allow for the "PS4 PROS" and "XBOX NEOS" and various incremental upgrades, the more they develop the same thick abstraction layers between software and hardware as PC has, negating the inherent advantages of the console's direct pedal-to-the-metal approach.

 

[A user named cat]

Now that Forza is on PC, there isn't a reason in the world to bother with Xbox. Let it die. I've yet to even see a PS4 title worth buying the system for. Console gaming is dead. Nintendo handhelds are where all the good games are at with weaker hardware than a modern smartphone. What a world.

 

[:Flash:]

Why would you name your new console after this car?

 

[Joined on the 4th of July]

Why would you name your new console after this car?

You're misinformed. It's obviously named after the villain of the first Dirty Harry movie.

 

[taxalot]

I thought this was about bad perfume.

 

[sullynathan]

Now that Forza is on PC, there isn't a reason in the world to bother with Xbox. Let it die. I've yet to even see a PS4 title worth buying the system for. Console gaming is dead. Nintendo handhelds are where all the good games are at with weaker hardware than a modern smartphone. What a world.

The Last of Us (well its on PS3), Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, NiOh, Ratchet & Clank. In the future there is The Last Guardian, Horizon (I don't trust guerrilla, they only have one decent game but this one looks cool), possibly Final Fantasy remake.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Out of those, i only give a shit about Bloodborne and maybe NiOh. Still not enough to buy a whole console. Maybe if they remaster Demon Soul and Dark Soul 1 for PS4 i might consider it.

 

[Severian Silk]

Can you browse the Codex on a console? Case closed.

 

[sullynathan]

Can you browse the Codex on a console? Case closed.

yes

 

[Severian Silk]

Well fuck.

 

[Beautiful Clown Painting]

Yeah, the quality and integrity of their pockets.

A console with equivalent power to a mid/high range PC without any increase in price? One of three things here:

1) They managed to brake the laws of physics and developed a revolutionary GPU capable of crunching huge numbers that's very cheap to produce.

2) Microsoft is willing to cut profits in order to bury the PS4 and take control of the market.

3) They are lying through their teeth and this Scorpio shit will just be another peasant device that won't even remotely approach the power of a good PC.

Of course, it is going to be number three. Number two would be sort of interesting but Microsoft is neither that clever nor ballsy enough to pull such a stunt.

4) The Xbox One was vastly overpriced.

 

[abija]

3 and 4 more likely. It will not match your core i5 with x70 (very likely not even a x60) or whatever amd equivalent there is out and as a bonus it will lose some resources upscaling to 4k while blooming/bluring everything possible to make it less obvious.

 

[Makabb]

12 gb GDDR 5

6 Tflop GPU

8 core cpu

Running Native 4k at 60HZ

Windows 10

all games from previous xbox compatible

Scorpio considered a 'next next-gen' console


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ace-to-4k-how-scorpio-targets-ultra-hd-gaming





If Sony won't make a PS5 i might be swayed by the new scorpio

 

[GrainWetski]

More teraflops than worthwhile games.

 

[Severian Silk]

Now that Forza is on PC, there isn't a reason in the world to bother with Xbox. Let it die. I've yet to even see a PS4 title worth buying the system for. Console gaming is dead. Nintendo handhelds are where all the good games are at with weaker hardware than a modern smartphone. What a world.

It's hard to dudebro on a DS though.