Bethesda: If you say graphics don't matter, you're probably

[Notorious]

Bethesda's Peter Hines says good graphics are an integral part of creating immersion as well as a valuable marketing tool.

Bethesda: If you say graphics don't matter, you're probably lying

 

[Hobo Elf]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

 

[JarlFrank]

Good graphics.

Bad graphics.

Suck it down

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Perhaps he could get his art department to work on that smile he has? It would be a good marketing tool.

 

[MetalCraze]

Hines talking about graphics mattering?

Then why the fuck Failout 3 is such an ugly piece of shit?

 

[Xor]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

This. I don't get what's so hard about it. Having an engine that can render pretty landscapes doesn't really mean anything if all your art assets are terribly designed. Oblivion looks like a fucking theme park in spite of the capabilities of its engine, and Fallout 3 is hardly any better.

 

[DraQ]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

This. I don't get what's so hard about it. Having an engine that can render pretty landscapes doesn't really mean anything if all your art assets are terribly designed. Oblivion looks like a fucking theme park in spite of the capabilities of its engine, and Fallout 3 is hardly any better.

It doesn't just look like this. It is a theme park.

Neobethesda cannot into worldbuilding.

 

[Luzur]

Bethesda's Peter Hines says good graphics are an integral part of creating immersion as well as a valuable marketing tool.

idiot.

 

[bhlaab]

They do matter. It all depends on what your definitions of "good graphics" and "good enough graphics" are

 

[Micmu]

Ah, the usual bullshit. He cleverly uses the generic term "graphics".
Like others have said, prettiness matters. Not raw image quality. That said, neo-batshitsda games are ugly as fuck no matter what hardware/3D APIs, middleware, etc... they use. I still can't forget those disfigured NPC faces and distant textures from oblivious. Those horrific images will haunt me forever.
And even good art style can't give you more "immersion" if mechanics, writing, game world, setting, etc... are poorly executed or "arcadish".

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Yes, exactly. How can you claim a game has good graphics when your terrain looks like play-doh and it's characters look plain horrible? What looks good here? I don't get it.

 

[MetalCraze]

BLOOM

 

[Rogue]

, needs moar of.

 

[Black]

Should he really be saying this considering they released this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TTdhl87Bys ?

But it doesn't really matter, bethtards, just like biodrones, think that pre-rendered shit is how the game will look.

Also, dear uncle Pete, I'd consider animations part of graphics. Have something to say?

 

[Baron]

The Codex - Never retreat, never surrender.


I agree with everything he said. He never said graphics were the only factor in creating immersion, just an integral part. (Certainly true when you have shit writers.) I still agree with him.

And that it was a valuable marketing tool. Yep again.

 

[Canus]

JarkFrank is that first screenshot of the Wheel of Time game?

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

Isn't art style a part of graphics?

 

[Overweight Manatee]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

Isn't art style a part of graphics?

In marketing terminology, good graphics = higher resolution textures than other games, even if your artists have the skills of a 9 year old award-winning finger painter.

 

[deuxhero]

Ai

Okami=


Crysis=WTF is this shit?

 

[Konjad]

Bethesda's Peter Hines says good graphics are an integral part of creating immersion as well as a valuable marketing tool.

idiot.

Half of that statement is true though.

 

[Achilles]

He's right. As much as we hate to admit it, we all love good graphics and there's nothing wrong with that - as long as we don't put graphics over gameplay.

 

[Ovg]

Damn, I prefer roguelike graphics over oblibianz, does it make me a horrbile liar?

 

[Norfleet]

"Graphics" don't matter in the sense that graphics is only one component of the user interface experience. "Graphics" isn't what matters: The experience is what matters, and "immersion" is just one more pointless, overused buzzword. So many these days keep harping on it, even while the only thing they're immersing you in is a vat of shit. And how high-tech the graphics are matters NOT AT ALL if it's still ugly. High-tech crap is still crap.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Art style over graphics. A concept many of these simians still haven't wrapped their heads around.

Isn't art style a part of graphics?

It's not at all the same in my opinion. Personally I sometimes get called a graphics whore, but in fact I am an esthetics whore. That's why most of these new games with shiny graphics don't do anything to me (Oblivion, Fallout 3 = good graphics LOL), and it's old games like for example TOEE or Arcanum that give me a hard on.

Great graphics must be crisp, consistent and artistically pleasing. And they must be made by someone with talent. The notion that you only need to pile tons of the latest post processing effects and particle effects on top of ugly, mediocre 3d models is complete bullshit.

 

[laclongquan]

Re: Bethesda: If you say graphics don't matter, you're proba

Bethesda's Peter Hines says good graphics are an integral part of creating immersion as well as a valuable marketing tool.

Bethesda: If you say dick size don't matter, you're probably lying

FIXED!!!

However, just dick size alone dont make for a good sexxion. Quite a few other factors coming in.

Same deal, graphic matters but it doesnt even hold a big part of the answer.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Of course graphics matter. As do gameplay, long term challenge, story, and engine capabilites.

Everything matters in a great game.

In my opinion a perfect game must be good in all aspects. I still remember the day when I played the demo for Ultima Underworld, and I thought: "That's the one that has everything: A great engine, great graphics (for the time), sophisticated gameplay, and a top-class story".

That was 1994. Nowadays we have nothing but these company fuckers that can't even get the graphics right, not to speak of the rest.