A lot of people think that the Cleric/Mage multiclass takes too long to mature. Especially during Shadows of Amn. However, I do think its an interesting class with interesting choices. Especially as you use Cleric spell slots to complement areas from the Mage ones. For an example, at level 1 you might memorize a few Commands instead of Sleep or Blindness. They are good enough to break quite a few strong individuals at the beginning. Later on, at level ~15 you'll use your Cleric spell slots to memorize Animate Dead (for the Skeleton Warrior) instead of the Mage ones. Further, there's the possibility of putting Cleric spells in contingencies and triggers, like instantly combining Greater Malison and Doom. Plus, the absurd levels of WIS you can reach with the tomes and other bonuses is icing on the cake.What about a cleric/illusionist multi class ?
Edwin is the best mage in the game, including your PC.
Kensai/Mage is hands-down the most powerful combo I've ever played, other than perhaps the Archer/Cleric combo. It also happened to be the first class I played for Baldur's Gate 2.
With practically any other combination, you'd have to prepare defenses for those anyway. So yeah, sure, on a few select encounters, Berserker is hands-down better than Kensai, including the Mind Flayer "city". But outside of those, I always felt that the Kensai was better, and no worse off than any other class when it comes to things like Maze/Imprisonment.Kensai/Mage is hands-down the most powerful combo I've ever played, other than perhaps the Archer/Cleric combo. It also happened to be the first class I played for Baldur's Gate 2.
berserker/mage might be better because you get immunites to few annoying spells like maze/imprisinoment which make high level battles so much easier
Noone suggesting fighter/mage/thief? Hmmm...Why?
Noone suggesting fighter/mage/thief? Hmmm...Why?
Because that character is always a utility type. Never the best fighter or mage. Don't even think you can legally cast 9th lvl spells with that combo.
Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)God I hate that so much. All the other characters have illegal and special bonuses that are nifty tricks. Only Edwin gets to be objectively better at his class than anybody else.
Archer is the one ranger kit which can't really dual into cleric since it would prevent you from using bows/crossbows, lolArcher/Cleric
He is a Mage with way more firepower than a Sorcerer. Where a regular specialist would get 6 slots, Edwin has 8. When a Sorcerer is one school level behind, Edwin is always on top of his game. And if a Sorcerer can tailor his casts according to short term needs, Edwin can outcast them any time of day while using whatever spell is best for his level, wether they scale or not. Plus, they even gave him some illegal spells for his specialization which, coincidentially, already has less forbidden spells than others. With the Robe of Vecna he's objectively than any other Mage would be, regardless of the other situational bonuses from the Amulet of Power. The point being that Edwin is better at being a Mage than any other spellcaster in the realms stands and if that is not strictly better than nothing really is.Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)
At higher levels (20+), the wonky implementation of clone spells means that the sorcerer gets ahead of any mage (except maybe for wild mages, because nrd is even wonkier than project image). It becomes less about "short-term needs", and more about being able to cast every spell at the same time by using multiple images, while one of those images is wish-spamming for rest. You can't pull the same trick with Eddie, no matter his spell slots.He is a Mage with way more firepower than a Sorcerer. Where a regular specialist would get 6 slots, Edwin has 8. When a Sorcerer is one school level behind, Edwin is always on top of his game. And if a Sorcerer can tailor his casts according to short term needs, Edwin can outcast them any time of day while using whatever spell is best for his level, wether they scale or not.Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)
Nah, you got Spell Immunity spell to handle battles where they like to cast Maze or Imprisonment.Kensai/Mage is hands-down the most powerful combo I've ever played, other than perhaps the Archer/Cleric combo. It also happened to be the first class I played for Baldur's Gate 2.
berserker/mage might be better because you get immunites to few annoying spells like maze/imprisinoment which make high level battles so much easier
The bonus still applies to Slings (or any other ranged weapon), and the goal here is to access both Druid and Cleric spells.Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)God I hate that so much. All the other characters have illegal and special bonuses that are nifty tricks. Only Edwin gets to be objectively better at his class than anybody else.
Archer is the one ranger kit which can't really dual into cleric since it would prevent you from using bows/crossbows, lolArcher/Cleric
So Eddie is objectively better than everyone until the end of the trilogy? Everyone can use Project Image and the Spell Trap exploit.At higher levels (20+), the wonky implementation of clone spells means that the sorcerer gets ahead of any mage (except maybe for wild mages, because nrd is even wonkier than project image). It becomes less about "short-term needs", and more about being able to cast every spell at the same time by using multiple images, while one of those images is wish-spamming for rest. You can't pull the same trick with Eddie, no matter his spell slots.He is a Mage with way more firepower than a Sorcerer. Where a regular specialist would get 6 slots, Edwin has 8. When a Sorcerer is one school level behind, Edwin is always on top of his game. And if a Sorcerer can tailor his casts according to short term needs, Edwin can outcast them any time of day while using whatever spell is best for his level, wether they scale or not.Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)
Level 20 isn't necessarily the end of trilogy, this depends on the party size. (I prefer only three, actually, because of pathfinding) Though it is certainly very useful at the end, when playing SCS/Ascension.So Eddie is objectively better than everyone until the end of the trilogy? Everyone can use Project Image and the Spell Trap exploit.At higher levels (20+), the wonky implementation of clone spells means that the sorcerer gets ahead of any mage (except maybe for wild mages, because nrd is even wonkier than project image). It becomes less about "short-term needs", and more about being able to cast every spell at the same time by using multiple images, while one of those images is wish-spamming for rest. You can't pull the same trick with Eddie, no matter his spell slots.He is a Mage with way more firepower than a Sorcerer. Where a regular specialist would get 6 slots, Edwin has 8. When a Sorcerer is one school level behind, Edwin is always on top of his game. And if a Sorcerer can tailor his casts according to short term needs, Edwin can outcast them any time of day while using whatever spell is best for his level, wether they scale or not.Technically he's not strictly better, his +2 spells per spell level costs an amulet slot (which basically means that he can't use the amulet of power)
I kept him inside the entrance of the tent and put Kagain to tank near the stairs, only letting Edwin out when he had clear LoS to chug a few fireballs. You can also cast invis on him and gg.
Man, Kagain.
I always hated how Baldur's Gate II ditched all the good CNPC:s in favour of a handful I didn't even like, except perhaps Edwin (and maybe, just maybe, Viconia).
Eldoth, Kagain, Garrick, Xan, Kivan; most of my favourite characters didn't even get mentions. Instead we get Jaheira and Minsc, the bottom of the fucking barrel.
This will forever piss me off to no end.