Lord Chambers
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Don't u no it? Memory leaks r caused by having 2 much RAM!!!11 :shock:ghostdog said:They are caused from memory leaks, especially if you don't have a lot RAM.
I once was. But I sold it and changed to SexBawks. Made even a decent profit.inwoker said:Weren't you PS3 elitist?
Is it so wrong for a man to get a low-end card that is adequate, rather than wanting the best? After all, games for me are only a way of passing a little time. I generally don't play much on weekdays, and play for an hour or so on a weekend, and that's it.
Amateur said:I'm sorry but your 8600 gt (any version of 8600) is a very low level card and with that card you should not expect good playability from the game.
Moreover your card is way inferior to gpus in both consoles.
New age games play well on it???
Sorry but again I know what 8600 is and I know how it performs in Crysis.
By lowering resolution, effects and adding the motion blur you may think that your card plays Crysis well, but the fact is even 9800GTX is struggling to play it with a steady 30fps on high settings at decent resolutions.
GTA 4 may have performance issues but let soemone having decent hardware make that comment...
Is it so wrong for a man to get a low-end card that is adequate, rather than wanting the best? After all, games for me are only a way of passing a little time. I generally don't play much on weekdays, and play for an hour or so on a weekend, and that's it.
The wrong thing was for Nvidia to label such a low level card (equal or worse then X1950 pro (pro NOT xt, xt is way better) which was released in 2006 ) as a DX10 midrange card. 3800 series and 8800GT's were were the real midrange cards (8800gt was better) and these were the cards exceeding consoles.
Unfortunately it is not important if you play the games for 1 hour or a whole week, if you want to play some fancy games like GTA 4 with eyecandy you need to have decent hardware. It is a sad fact of that industry. They are greedy ....
Right now you can get an HD4850 for under 150$ which would kick ... (not the highest settings for some new titles of course) for that price.
Wyrmlord said:GTA IV shadows are ugly as hell. And it has the most painful HDR lighting I have seen.
Dude, mid-2007 it was so tempting, considering the price.inwoker said:Why would somebody buy that piece of shit?Wyrmlord said:8600 GT
The 8800s were 3 times as expensive.
And I had only intended to catch up on 2006 and pre-2006 games, (though even newer games like Bioshock and World In Conflict ran perfectly at highest settings). It was more for gaining back the years I lost rather than preparing for the future. For the games that I wanted to play, it was perfect.
Besides, does it matter when even new-age games run well enough on it? For all that talk about the system usage of Crysis, it looked and ran great on my PC. I just turned off the awful-looking motion blur which also ate up resources. And that's it.
Is it so wrong for a man to get a low-end card that is adequate, rather than wanting the best? After all, games for me are only a way of passing a little time. I generally don't play much on weekdays, and play for an hour or so on a weekend, and that's it.
Also consider that much of my time is spent on DOSbox games as well. It would be a grave tragedy to drop big money on a 8800, and yet only use such a computer for playing DOS games.
Dmitron said:Hmm, I just helped a friend install this on his 8600 based system.
At the lowest settings..it was only playable at 800 x 600...
He has a high end Quad core processor and 2gig + ram.
ViolentOpposition said:Dmitron said:Hmm, I just helped a friend install this on his 8600 based system.
At the lowest settings..it was only playable at 800 x 600...
He has a high end Quad core processor and 2gig + ram.
The 8800 GT seems to be really a minimum these days to play on high and at comfortable frame rates. Mine's still going great, I see no need to replace it with a Geforce 260 or 280; I think I'll just wait for the next generation to come out (DX11 support).
Well, actually, I was a little put off by the filler content in the game. And just as much by how much of the game is merely a tutorial for itself.GlobalExplorer said:From what I hear, this one seems to be a real flop.
Wyrmlord said:Well, actually, I was a little put off by the filler content in the game. And just as much by how much of the game is merely a tutorial for itself.GlobalExplorer said:From what I hear, this one seems to be a real flop.
But damn, there are a large number of amazing missions in this game.
There is a Heat-style bank robbery, which involves the whole process of robbing the bank, and then being ambushed by police on several fronts, and what ends up is a whole battleground, with all the criminals and policemen taking cover and putting each other on heavy fire, with cars blowing up, and everything. It then goes into the subway station, and then to other places.
Or a chase mission on a motorbikes which go through metro tracks and having to avoid trains as they keep on coming.
I just have to say that there are some great set pieces and superb missions in this game. The kind that you'd be lucky to see once or twice in a game. But they come one after another in GTA 4.
I have to hand it to GTA 4 for the fact that it can create great moments without making it scripted. When a car chase goes into an opposite lane, the cars going in the other direction skid and turn over, and they fly over in your direction. Sometimes a truck will invert on you.
And there are missions where it does not spell things out for the player, and has him figuring things out on his own. A sniping mission involves luring a person to a window to kill him. As you zoom in with your sniper, and look around his apartment through the window, you can see his phone number written on the phone. There is an in-game mobile phone, that you manually use. The usage of it is not based on scripted events. It can be used any time for any reason, for any number to your knowledge. Calling him up brings him to the window, and you snipe him.
It is rare rare thing for a game to offer so much quality AND content. And moreover, the missions are augmented by the versimilitude of the world. It's one thing to have a mission that involves finding the Jewish mafia's penthouse on a large building, and killing all of them. It's another when you go through the whole seamless process of going through the world, outfitting yourself for it, going up there, doing your job, dealing with cops who surround you from all corners of the building, and getting the hell out of there. Best thing is that there is no "in-between" save, so you either do it right or not at all.
On TOP of that, the game is funny. Stuff with Burger Shot's Heart Stopper Burger or the popular show "America's next top hooker" or characters like Bernie Crane and Brucie, there is good presentation on top of that substance.
It's only a pity that this game starts off with several hours of errand missions, requires installation of several other software before playing it, and is unoptimized. So while I still stand by saying, "Do NOT buy GTAIV for PC", I have to add, "Buy it if you have a console or play it on a friend's."