ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[GrafvonMoltke]

It's an ok game when you won it in a codex raffle

 

[Geckabor]

PB is that guy from school you knew that seemed to often get bad grades and then suddenly ace a test that everyone else failed. It's really hard to understand what's going on with them.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

PB is that guy from school you knew that seemed to often get bad grades and then suddenly ace a test that everyone else failed. It's really hard to understand what's going on with them.

I thought it was more like that guy that everyone thought would become a genius or the CEO of some big tech company and then 15 years later turns out to be the homeless alcoholic begging for few coins in front of a grocery store.

 

[JDR13]

Elex II and Risen 3 are similar in that the last 20% or so of the game is an immensely boring slog.

They are also similar in that Elex 2 shamelessly recycles the latter's story.

In what way? I haven't played Risen 3 since release so maybe I'm forgetting something here.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Risen 3 does the same thing with a corruption spreading through the world from the invasion of an otherworldly threat, except it's a shadow army instead of purple aliums, and it does the same shtick with the protag being infected with space AIDS and gradually losing his humanity. The basic setup is near-identical, except that SoyJax has a goblinoid son and wife while Risen3guy has a big-titted sister.

 

[cvv]

That said the only PB game where we are NOT saving the world from an outside invasion is R2.

 

[Konjad]

Risen 3 does the same thing with a corruption spreading through the world from the invasion of an otherworldly threat, except it's a shadow army instead of purple aliums, and it does the same shtick with the protag being infected with space AIDS and gradually losing his humanity. The basic setup is near-identical, except that SoyJax has a goblinoid son and wife while Risen3guy has a big-titted sister.

What Risen 3 did to Patty is unforgivable

 

[JDR13]

Risen 3 does the same thing with a corruption spreading through the world from the invasion of an otherworldly threat, except it's a shadow army instead of purple aliums, and it does the same shtick with the protag being infected with space AIDS and gradually losing his humanity. The basic setup is near-identical, except that SoyJax has a goblinoid son and wife while Risen3guy has a big-titted sister.

Oooh... I almost forgot bout them tiddies.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Risen 3 does the same thing with a corruption spreading through the world from the invasion of an otherworldly threat, except it's a shadow army instead of purple aliums, and it does the same shtick with the protag being infected with space AIDS and gradually losing his humanity. The basic setup is near-identical, except that SoyJax has a goblinoid son and wife while Risen3guy has a big-titted sister.

What Risen 3 did to Patty is unforgivable

still preferable to what elex 2 did to caja lol

 

[JBro]

Risen 2 and 3 are so fucking weird. You clearly play as a different guy in all 3 games, but they mention shit you did in the first 2 and Patty completely changes in all 3 games. I don't know why Risen 2 wasn't just a different IP. Taken as an unrelated pirate RPG, it was actually pretty fun. Made me want another pirate RPG from them that includes sailing and shit.

 

[JDR13]

Risen 2 and 3 are so fucking weird. You clearly play as a different guy in all 3 games, but they mention shit you did in the first 2 and Patty completely changes in all 3 games. I don't know why Risen 2 wasn't just a different IP. Taken as an unrelated pirate RPG, it was actually pretty fun. Made me want another pirate RPG from them that includes sailing and shit.

Same guy in the first two, they just grew his hair out in Risen 2.

 

[Konjad]

Risen 2 and 3 are so fucking weird. You clearly play as a different guy in all 3 games, but they mention shit you did in the first 2 and Patty completely changes in all 3 games. I don't know why Risen 2 wasn't just a different IP. Taken as an unrelated pirate RPG, it was actually pretty fun. Made me want another pirate RPG from them that includes sailing and shit.

You should play Vendetta.

 

[adddeed]

Risen 2 is really underrated in my view, super fun to play. Has a great adventuring feel to it.

 

[Zarniwoop]

 

[Zarniwoop]

Yep, as expected the combat is broken way beyond Elex 1 level. Once you get a shotgun and the many, many levels required to use it, you can basically stick it in the face of any enemy and blow them away

Combined with the instant reload trick, it makes for some hilarious fights. I happen to like it but with "gamers" being such balancefags recently, I'm surprised they haven't nerfed the crap out of this yet.

 

[razvedchiki]

the real gamers go melee.

 

[cvv]

Yep, as expected the combat is broken way beyond Elex 1 level. Once you get a shotgun and the many, many levels required to use it, you can basically stick it in the face of any enemy and blow them away

So p. much the exact same deal as with all the previous PB games.

In E1 I went from a struggle bus ride with wimpy clubs and chainswords to a faceroll god as soon as I had the stats to use the Redeemer. Which was btw way more broken than some stupid shotgun in E2.

Ppl endlessly bitching about E2 being worse than E1 have no idea what they're talking about. E2 is worse because it's almost exactly the same.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Yep, as expected the combat is broken way beyond Elex 1 level. Once you get a shotgun and the many, many levels required to use it, you can basically stick it in the face of any enemy and blow them away

So p. much the exact same deal as with all the previous PB games.

In E1 I went from a struggle bus ride with wimpy clubs and chainswords to a faceroll god as soon as I had the stats to use the Redeemer. Which was btw way more broken than some stupid shotgun in E2.

Ppl endlessly bitching about E2 being worse than E1 have no idea what they're talking about. E2 is worse because it's almost exactly the same.

No, in the first game enemies didn't just stand there and wait to get blasted. But yes you were pretty much a faceroll god once you get the flamethrower.

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

 

[Lord_Potato]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

 

[Zarniwoop]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

There are only 3 factions, the others are like mini-factions you can only join later. And the best one, the Clerics, has been reduced to shit.

 

[Zarniwoop]

It has come to my attention that no matter how retarded Codexers are, and what pieces of shit they defend, they will never be Reddit-retarded

>>I bought ELEX 2 thinking it was the first one.
>>ELEX 2
>>first one

 

[Peachcurl]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

It would be infinitely better if they made the ultimate upgrade available before the game ends. But yeah, it's pretty fun.

 

[Lord_Potato]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

It would be infinitely better if they made the ultimate upgrade available before the game ends. But yeah, it's pretty fun.

The one that gives you infinity fuel is completely overpowered and would probably break the game. That's why they give it to you after the end, as a form of curiosity, to fly around and explore the world from bizarre angles.

If there ever is Elex 3, Jax will certainly lose it in the intro scene, together with all his gear and exp levels.

 

[Zarniwoop]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

It would be infinitely better if they made the ultimate upgrade available before the game ends. But yeah, it's pretty fun.

The one that gives you infinity fuel is completely overpowered and would probably break the game. That's why they give it to you after the end, as a form of curiosity, to fly around and explore the world from bizarre angles.

If there ever is Elex 3, Jax will certainly lose it in the intro scene, together with all his gear and exp levels.

And his memory. And his personality. And his looks. And everyone else's looks.

 

[Peachcurl]

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

Upgradeable jetpack is infinitely better than in Elex 1. Also faction choice is wider and backstabbing options fun.

It would be infinitely better if they made the ultimate upgrade available before the game ends. But yeah, it's pretty fun.

The one that gives you infinity fuel is completely overpowered and would probably break the game. That's why they give it to you after the end, as a form of curiosity, to fly around and explore the world from bizarre angles.

I dunno. Fights became trivial much earlier than the endgame. Also, fighting in the air was cool for the first few fights, but it quickly becomes obvious how glitchy and awkward it is. Eventually (i.e., after most jetpack updates are applied), fuel consumption isn't a big limit on combat balance. The only thing that is effectively limited is high-speed, long-distance travel, and I simply can't see the reason for that.

Theoretically, I agree that infinite fuel might be a problem. But not with the existing systems and balance. And if you already start to fix the combat, I don't see any fundamental roadblocks to make it fun and competitive even with infinite fuel.

If there ever is Elex 3, Jax will certainly lose it in the intro scene, together with all his gear and exp levels.

Of course, along with another memory loss. :D

 

[JDR13]

Yep, as expected the combat is broken way beyond Elex 1 level. Once you get a shotgun and the many, many levels required to use it, you can basically stick it in the face of any enemy and blow them away

So p. much the exact same deal as with all the previous PB games.

In E1 I went from a struggle bus ride with wimpy clubs and chainswords to a faceroll god as soon as I had the stats to use the Redeemer. Which was btw way more broken than some stupid shotgun in E2.

Ppl endlessly bitching about E2 being worse than E1 have no idea what they're talking about. E2 is worse because it's almost exactly the same.

No, in the first game enemies didn't just stand there and wait to get blasted. But yes you were pretty much a faceroll god once you get the flamethrower.

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

E2 is worse but not for those reasons. It's worse because the endgame is a horrendous slog. The entire last chapter is literally nothing but one combat encounter after another with purple aliens.

They seriously could have cut out the last 15-20% of the game and it would have been better for it. Most of PB's games drag towards the end, but E2 took it to a new level.

 

[Konjad]

Yep, as expected the combat is broken way beyond Elex 1 level. Once you get a shotgun and the many, many levels required to use it, you can basically stick it in the face of any enemy and blow them away

So p. much the exact same deal as with all the previous PB games.

In E1 I went from a struggle bus ride with wimpy clubs and chainswords to a faceroll god as soon as I had the stats to use the Redeemer. Which was btw way more broken than some stupid shotgun in E2.

Ppl endlessly bitching about E2 being worse than E1 have no idea what they're talking about. E2 is worse because it's almost exactly the same.

No, in the first game enemies didn't just stand there and wait to get blasted. But yes you were pretty much a faceroll god once you get the flamethrower.

E2 is worse because it does everything the same or worse than the first game and not a single thing better.

E2 is worse but not for those reasons. It's worse because the endgame is a horrendous slog. The entire last chapter is literally nothing but one combat encounter after another with purple aliens.

They seriously could have cut out the last 15-20% of the game and it would have been better for it. Most of PB's games drag towards the end, but E2 took it to a new level.

I killed most of purple aliens around the whole map much earlier so it was quite quick for me

But yeah, overall all PB games are shit at the end, from the first Gothic to the last ELEX. They always try to lengthen the game at the end by adding annoying dungeons with nothing but hundreds of enemies to kill or traps to jump over.

 

[cvv]

E2 is worse but not for those reasons. It's worse because the endgame is a horrendous slog. The entire last chapter is literally nothing but one combat encounter after another with purple aliens

Is this your first PB rodeo, little padawan?