Reinhardt
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So it got shopping cart?Their store improved a lot actually.
So it got shopping cart?Their store improved a lot actually.
The article people are commenting about is on their distribution agreement since 2017, it isn't news accordingly to some sources.
On one hand it's an advertisement for these games while they are on Epic store, on the other it's a reminder that they'll be on Steam within few months.
The agreement says "submit Application to Steam for release", so there's no such technicality.3. Adhere to the agreement, but utterly violate its spirit
a. Release the game as an exclusive on other platforms, and maintain a steam store page (with preoders and sales disabled); a build is uploaded to steam and maintained in concert with the other platforms.
This technically fulfills the explicit requirements of the contract, as there is a build; but it isn't available to anyone to actually use or play with.
I'll be very curious to see if Valve will put a stop to developers exploiting this technicality.
Valve is putting an end to free advertisement for Epic exclusives.
https://www.lowyat.net/2019/193548/valve-new-stipulation-to-steam-distribution-agreement/
A Reddit user has found that Valve has added a new item in the Steam Distribution Agreement. It’s a complicated couple of sentences, but it essentially means two things.
One is that if a developer or publisher has not made a Steam page for its upcoming game, then when it does it will have to release the game at the same time as on other platforms. The second is that if a game is already released, then developers and publishers can create a page for it no earlier 30 days before its release on Steam.
Normally, this document will never be seen by the public, as you have to sign up as a developer first. But it implies that Valve want to stop developers and publishers from using Steam just to advertise their game. Metro Exodus comes immediately to mind as an example, following its last minute announcement as an Epic exclusive.
Steam page live despite the Epic exclusivity:
This is supposed coming out May next year if it was the standard 1-year exclusivity. I guess the thing in the Steam Distribution Agreement is actually not a thing?
So what happens when developer/publisher violates said agreement?
I can't wait to see how Kotaku will spin this as an evil and anti-competitive move on Valve's part against the poor, downtrodden Epic store.
Hmmm, developer makes fake steam page, collect preorders and get hype going on for their game, lying to their customers, then sign exclusivity deal with epic
Hmm almost as if Velve the biggest player on market that can be described easily as monopoly are forcing developers into give them special care or they won't be allowed to publish their games in order to fight it out with Epic.
If he's doubling down, isn't he going double retard?Perkel's doubling down and going full retard I see.
Hmm almost as if Velve the biggest player on market that can be described easily as monopoly
Perkel's doubling down and going full retard I see.
The bigger news is Valve having marketing people.
Anything that breaks a monopoly is good. Sure it would suck to have multiple softwares and launchers to run games, but at least it will ensure lower prices.
It won't affect prices at all in the long run. Prices of an intelectual property with no replication cost are determined primarily by what consumers are willing to pay. Stores competition may result in smaller cut acros all stores, that will statistically result in more profit per copy for publisher, not smaller price which is set by publisher to maximise revenue depending on what customers are wiling to pay.
FTFY.Food market in most of nations operate on 2% margins and yet they hire more people, run physical spaces and buildings, fleet of cars and still have time to make wicked promotions asthey HAVE to compete with other storeshire desperate people and pay them nearly nothing.
I hope 10 more Epic like stores will open up and render Steam new releases only to RPGmaker games and endless shovelware.
One, it would make steamtards absolutely hilarious, Two i would get sales all year without need to wait and since there are sales all year someone will figure out to drive prices even more down trying to out-compete someone else from market.
There is critical point at which having to many stores will force developers into using store strictly as store not as social platform. Which means we would be back to good old days of not giving a fuck in which store you buy what and your games not attached to some retarded store like in case of GOG.
There is critical point at which having to many stores will force developers into using store strictly as store not as social platform. Which means we would be back to good old days of not giving a fuck in which store you buy what and your games not attached to some retarded store like in case of GOG.
GoG has forums and nothing stops developers from interacting with the community in their game-specific GoG subforum.
Epic is like a lamprey latched onto steam's belly, signing exclusive deals on the unifnished betas of games so they can do a proper release on steam once their game isn't shit any more. It's success will hinge on whether people prefer to play a game ASAP or in it's best state.
GoG really fucked up big time. They started out only a realtively short while after Steam, and they could have ended up being huuuuge, a legitimate threat to Steam despite being Eastern European rather than in first worldia, but they shortchanged themselves by only trying to appeal to a niche of a niche of a niche market.
FTFY.
Steam already has multiple competitors, look up a game on isthereanydeal.com and you'll find most games being sold on a bunch of other platforms. Though they often include a steam key if it's available.
Is metro exodus beta ? Is BL3 beta ? Steam loses players with every game not released on their store to Epic. People use Steam to buy and play games if they can't do that they will leave steam for other stores. Simple as that.
At this point, Steam still has the better and larger collection of games compared to Epic, and people already have libraries with 100+ games on Steam so nobody will "leave" it.
If you mean Outer Worlds, it has been announced as an Epic exclusive long ago, yet the thread is still here.Imagine for a second that OtherWorlds get announced as Epic store exclusive
Both Outer Wilds and Other Worlds are epic exlcusives....If you mean Outer Worlds, it has been announced as an Epic exclusive long ago, yet the thread is still here.Imagine for a second that OtherWorlds get announced as Epic store exclusive
If it's not a typo, I don't have a clue what game you are talking about - as I suspect does half the thread.