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Sceptic

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MetalCraze said:
I guess Aurora engine was shit too?
UE3 engine is shit too?
Erm... yes and yes?

Waitwaitwait... do you seriously hate Obsidian so much that you are going to suddenly start arguing that UE3 and Aurora were great engines until Obsidian got their dirty hands on them?

... really?

Aurora? REALLY?

http://www.xboxist.com/xbox-360/2010/10/06/Fallout-New-Vegas-screenshot.jpg
It's official, skyway is an Xboxist :smug:
 

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Sceptic said:
MetalCraze said:
I guess Aurora engine was shit too?
UE3 engine is shit too?
Erm... yes and yes?

Waitwaitwait... do you seriously hate Obsidian so much that you are going to suddenly start arguing that UE3 and Aurora were great engines until Obsidian got their dirty hands on them?

... really?

Aurora? REALLY?
*compares the Witcher with NWN2*
Uhm..Sceptic...
 

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Aurora was a pretty crappy engine, but most of the performance problems with NWN2 were Obsidian's fault. Of course, I don't have any of those problems any more so I'm pretty sure they fixed them in an early patch.
 

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Shannow said:
*compares the Witcher with NWN2*
Uhm..Sceptic...
No, compare it with NWN1. With the game that STARTED the shitty engine.

CDP fixed the engine? awesome. Did a great job with it. After... how many patches again?

Now, should Obsidian get some (fine, a lot of) flak for not fixing engine issues when others managed to do that just fine? of course. But pretending that Aurora was this wonderful piece of technology that ran superb graphics at lightning speed and then magically turned shitty in Obsidian's hands? no.
 

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shihonage said:
There's a difference between 232 and... 8, which is the number of unique NPCs in Goodsprings. Add a couple random farmers with barkstrings and you approach a dozen, the number I stated all along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goods ... vada_4.jpg

Does it look to have 232 people living on it?

Also lets ignore the burned down houses and the boarded up one, maybe you want over 200 nameless NPCs running around ...

Oh lets also forget as landmarks as the Pioneer Saloon and Goodsprings Schoolhouse remain (since they are older that the divergence) the town differs.

Same goes for Primm - it has around a dozen people. A big difference between that and 436, wouldn't you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Buffa ... casino.jpg

Yes because current Primm is nothing BUT its Casinos and Mall, MGM actually built the apartment buildings for its employers.

In game Primm is different.

Nipton was a joke question, as I stated before (and as should be obvious to anyone who visited it in-game).

And I dead serious, the fact they decided to settle on a pre-war motel is not a problem to me because its a very viable option as long there is water supply and the place is in good condition.

So the facts remain what they are. I'm not sure what's with this "homework" business and "bitching", but good luck with that.

The fact you remain a Skyway wannabe with all Skyway-like arguments that are focusing on the absurd.

Complaining about what are today micro-towns with small populations is absurd, none of those places are the main settlement anyway and survive from trading caravans coming and going to New Vegas.

As if those places having 100 named or unnamed NPCs running around would somehow make them "better" ...

You COULD complain about New Vegas itself as Freeside is a bit deserted for my tastes, Westside besides being more populated its could used less boarded up housing and North Vegas Square looks to be pretty damn boring, now THAT would have a point.
 

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MetalCraze said:
commie said:
Bullshit. It doesn't lag on my ancient 4 year old system with max details. If you are trying to run it on a P4 then what do you expect?
Weren't you just saying that the engine is shit and small amount of NPCs are there so it won't lag? :lol:

Well it doesn't lag if you run it on a reasonably new system. If with a handful of NPC's it STILL lags for you then it's your hardware at fault. I said that it lags if you have MANY NPC's. So the :lol: is on you.


More like because everything is brown. And lol you call this better looking?
Fallout-New-Vegas-screenshot.jpg




Looks like some mod or cheap c-class game from the eastern europe.

:lol: Posting Xbox screenshots to 'prove' your point? You have to do better than that! Post a PC shot with graphics maxed out dude.

I can do that too with those 'better looking' games:

the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20060320080708445-000.jpg



No they aren't. They all work according to the same static script.

As opposed to no script, but just randomness in Guild 2? (see below)

Have you actually played Guild 2 for more than two minutes?
Yes they do stuff in accordance to their profession (which is kinda logical durr hurr) however they don't follow the same set of scripts and the same path. They also do stuff differently. You can reload the game from the beginning of the year and NPCs won't repeat what they did in the same way. They work, they go to taverns to relax, they go to courts with their own needs, they run for positions in power, they hold grudges against each other, etc - and all the time it's dynamic.

Oh so in other words there's no AI there at all if every time you reload a game they do something else! They should be doing things based on their needs, wants, development etc. If you now say that it's random every time you restart then where's this AI? Face it, there's no AI at all. 'Dynamic' is an old euphemism for 'no AI' in games. Always has been. All that the NPC's are doing are just rolling a die to see which of the listed script presets they will do at a time.




You heard it here first folks. Aurora which looks and runs much smoother in The Witcher than in NWN2 and UE3 with which 95% of devs never have problems - are shit.

Bullshitz. CDProjektRED threw out almost all of the Aurora code apart from the scripting and a bit here and there. The engine is almost totally rebuilt. They only still kept the 'Aurora' name so prominently for marketing purposes. That's why it runs much smoother in The Witcher; it's essentially a new engine.
UE3 is well known as a shit engine, primitive. What's new? You yourself rage against it often enough or have yu forgotten?


Why do you lie? Everyone had a bad performance in NWN2, in fact it was one of the main complaints about the game, but somehow your system magically was an exception?

Well I never played it when it first came out, but after a time when it was patched up a bit and better video drivers. With everything on max it lagged a bit, but without AA up too much it was fine.


7900gt is weaker than XBox360's videocard which is basically an upgraded Radeon X1900. Still I remember it running quite well on 7900gs without antialiasing and too much aniso - turning them on caused problems of course.

Well see? Not hard to write something useful is it? I did not know this and it would explain a lot. Maybe my drivers were shit back in the day too.
 

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"Aurora? REALLY?
"

BEST. ENGINE. EVER.



"Bullshitz. CDProjektRED threw out almost all of the Aurora code apart from the scripting and a bit here and there. The engine is almost totally rebuilt. They only still kept the 'Aurora' name so prominently for marketing purposes. That's why it runs much smoother in The Witcher; it's essentially a new engine.
UE3 is well known as a shit engine, primitive. What's new? You yourself rage against it often enough or have yu forgotten?"

Bullshit. And, the engine doesn't run 'smoother' in TW. That's a fuckin' lie by a TW cocksucker. FFS


:x
 

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Why do you arguing with a guy who hates everything( with minimal system requirements higher then Amd duron 1 ghz, 512 ram, riva tnt), loves NVN and doesn't play games? Just curious
 

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Being blocked by heel high fences and have to go all the way around them piss me off to no end in Twitcher.
 

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