It was bound to happen sooner or later - Bethesda Montreal founded

[Infinitron]

All the games must be made in Montreal

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-09-bethesda-opens-new-studio-in-montreal

Bethesda opens new studio in Montreal
Fallout: New Quebec anyone?

Bethesda Game Studios, the developer of Fallout 4 and the Elder Scrolls series, has opened a new studio in Montreal.

Led by studio director Yves Lachance, senior VP on Wolfenstein: The New Order and Fallout Shelter, the new branch of Bethesda consists of more than 40 developers and spans both console and mobile game development.

"We've worked with some very talented developers in Montreal for a long time, and decided it was time to open a studio there," said Fallout 4 director Todd Howard. "It's exciting to think about the new games we'll be building together."

"Our collaboration with Bethesda Game Studios has been an exhilarating and memorable journey already," added Lachance. "We are thrilled to be launching the studio in Montreal and contributing our city's great game-making talent to the kind of games that Bethesda Game Studios is known for."

Bethesda is currently hiring at its new Montreal office - and its Maryland base too for that matter.

The publisher noted that Fallout 4 has shifted 12m copies since its release on 10th November.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Would be funny if they were the ones doing the F4 spin-off.

EDIT: Haha, only just noticed the article's subtitle:

Fallout: New Quebec anyone?

 

[Infinitron]

Behaviour Interactive is also in Montreal. They could co-develop it with Bethesda.

 

[Killzig]

So much for any outsourced Fallout. Is this a new studio or is it more of a rebranding of Behavior Interactive?

 

[DosBuster]

They straight up poached people from Behaviour for this new team.

Also, I don't think this is a spin-off team. This is going to be an Additional Development and Engine team. They're hiring Physics, Graphics and Engine programmers the only design job I saw for Montreal was UI design.

 

[Animal]

Let's make some moar gaimz!

Spoiler

 

[typical user]

I bet they're pissed off their game is so baddly-bugged up and in a crap engine that they lost GOTY to Witcher 3.

Fire Todd Howard, Pete Hines, Pagurilo or whatever that dumb retard name is then Bethesda may apply for next GOTY with their games.

 

[Fairfax]

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

 

[Xeon]

I thought they can ask ID since they are part of the same company to make them a new engine that suits them or something. Similar to Biowere using Frostbite Engine.

 

[Fairfax]

I thought they can ask ID since they are part of the same company to make them a new engine that suits them or something. Similar to Biowere using Frostbite Engine.

They already did, it's id Tech 6. Who knows if Bethesda is willing to spend the time and money to bring Fallout and TES to that engine, though. They sell shitloads regardless.

 

[StrongBelwas]

New engine/Rewriting ID Tech to work with the kind of open-world stuff Bethesda does would add years of development and millions * of dollars to the budget they clearly don't need to if the sales numbers are any indication. Best case scenario I can see is Bethesda Montreal helping make each shiny "new" version of Gamebyro slightly less out of date than they typically are. Forty people isn't enough to make an AAA game, even one Bethesda-tier and premade engine/plenty of assets to reuse, so I don't think Fallout Quebec is a realistic possibility, for better or for worse. Could be a DLC farm I suppose.

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

Could such a thing even exist?

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

 

[Fairfax]

New engine/Rewriting ID Tech to work with the kind of open-world stuff Bethesda does would add years of development and millions * of dollars to the budget they clearly don't need to if the sales numbers are any indication. Best case scenario I can see is Bethesda Montreal helping make each shiny "new" version of Gamebyro slightly less out of date than they typically are. Forty people isn't enough to make an AAA game, even one Bethesda-tier and premade engine/plenty of assets to reuse, so I don't think Fallout Quebec is a realistic possibility, for better or for worse. Could be a DLC farm I suppose.

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

Could such a thing even exist?

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

It'd be in that ballpark if they want to bring every asset they have at their disposal using Gamebryo, but otherwise it won't take that long. Bethesda itself is not that large, but Zenimax is, and they have more than enough people to get it done much faster than an independent studio.
This would be similar to BioWare's transition to Frostbite. They didn't have to do it on their own, and they had a bunch of assets from other EA projects available. Doom 4 and Dishonored 2 are using id Tech 6, and id has a team dedicated to working on the engine. They'd have a major headstard.
DA:I took less than 3 years to be released, this transition wouldn't take long for Bethesda either, it's just a matter of being cheap fucks or not.

 

[Severian Silk]

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

You're forgetting marketing.

 

[Stargazer_]

New engine/Rewriting ID Tech to work with the kind of open-world stuff Bethesda does would add years of development and millions * of dollars to the budget they clearly don't need to if the sales numbers are any indication. Best case scenario I can see is Bethesda Montreal helping make each shiny "new" version of Gamebyro slightly less out of date than they typically are. Forty people isn't enough to make an AAA game, even one Bethesda-tier and premade engine/plenty of assets to reuse, so I don't think Fallout Quebec is a realistic possibility, for better or for worse. Could be a DLC farm I suppose.

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

Could such a thing even exist?

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

It'd be in that ballpark if they want to bring every asset they have at their disposal using Gamebryo, but otherwise it won't take that long. Bethesda itself is not that large, but Zenimax is, and they have more than enough people to get it done much faster than an independent studio.
This would be similar to BioWare's transition to Frostbite. They didn't have to do it on their own, and they had a bunch of assets from other EA projects available. Doom 4 and Dishonored 2 are using id Tech 6, and id has a team dedicated to working on the engine. They'd have a major headstard.
DA:I took less than 3 years to be released, this transition wouldn't take long for Bethesda either, it's just a matter of being cheap fucks or not.

One major problem someone has to consider is Beth programmers aren't very good. They really need to reevaluate their workers and start drafting fresh competent talent, even with their own tools they show no mastery in using it or any creativity with Creashit/Shitbryo.

 

[Fairfax]

New engine/Rewriting ID Tech to work with the kind of open-world stuff Bethesda does would add years of development and millions * of dollars to the budget they clearly don't need to if the sales numbers are any indication. Best case scenario I can see is Bethesda Montreal helping make each shiny "new" version of Gamebyro slightly less out of date than they typically are. Forty people isn't enough to make an AAA game, even one Bethesda-tier and premade engine/plenty of assets to reuse, so I don't think Fallout Quebec is a realistic possibility, for better or for worse. Could be a DLC farm I suppose.

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

Could such a thing even exist?

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

It'd be in that ballpark if they want to bring every asset they have at their disposal using Gamebryo, but otherwise it won't take that long. Bethesda itself is not that large, but Zenimax is, and they have more than enough people to get it done much faster than an independent studio.
This would be similar to BioWare's transition to Frostbite. They didn't have to do it on their own, and they had a bunch of assets from other EA projects available. Doom 4 and Dishonored 2 are using id Tech 6, and id has a team dedicated to working on the engine. They'd have a major headstard.
DA:I took less than 3 years to be released, this transition wouldn't take long for Bethesda either, it's just a matter of being cheap fucks or not.

One major problem someone has to consider is Beth programmers aren't very good. They really need to reevaluate their workers and start drafting fresh competent talent, even with their own tools they show no mastery in using it or any creativity with Creashit/Shitbryo.

But id's programmers are top notch (or at least they used to be), they'd be the ones doing the heavy lifting, most of which has been done already.

 

[Stargazer_]

New engine/Rewriting ID Tech to work with the kind of open-world stuff Bethesda does would add years of development and millions * of dollars to the budget they clearly don't need to if the sales numbers are any indication. Best case scenario I can see is Bethesda Montreal helping make each shiny "new" version of Gamebyro slightly less out of date than they typically are. Forty people isn't enough to make an AAA game, even one Bethesda-tier and premade engine/plenty of assets to reuse, so I don't think Fallout Quebec is a realistic possibility, for better or for worse. Could be a DLC farm I suppose.

Fallout Quebec by former mobile shit devs might just be what turns bethestards against them. I doubt it's the case though.

Could such a thing even exist?

* Overtly simplistic napkin math for bare minimum would be around $63,348 (Medium salary per year of VG programmer according to Payscale ) times 40 employees (Assuming Montreal is the only studio involved in it, which it would almost certainly not be) times 2 years of developing the engine at least. So a bit over 5 mil, which is probably being optimistic.

It'd be in that ballpark if they want to bring every asset they have at their disposal using Gamebryo, but otherwise it won't take that long. Bethesda itself is not that large, but Zenimax is, and they have more than enough people to get it done much faster than an independent studio.
This would be similar to BioWare's transition to Frostbite. They didn't have to do it on their own, and they had a bunch of assets from other EA projects available. Doom 4 and Dishonored 2 are using id Tech 6, and id has a team dedicated to working on the engine. They'd have a major headstard.
DA:I took less than 3 years to be released, this transition wouldn't take long for Bethesda either, it's just a matter of being cheap fucks or not.

One major problem someone has to consider is Beth programmers aren't very good. They really need to reevaluate their workers and start drafting fresh competent talent, even with their own tools they show no mastery in using it or any creativity with Creashit/Shitbryo.

But id's programmers are top notch (or at least they used to be), they'd be the ones doing the heavy lifting, most of which has been done already.

Id are top notch but when its time to make the game, they wont be the ones who are making the new fallout or TES titles. You can give a man a fishing rod but that doesn't mean he'll be good at fishing.

 

[Animal]

Id are top notch but when its time to make the game, they wont be the ones who are making the new fallout or TES titles. You can give a man a fishing rod but that doesn't mean he'll be good at fishing.

 

[DosBuster]

Lol Id software has lost most of its good talent it's all just average devs there now. Not to mention that you can't do open world on Id tech, it's megatexture technology can't handle spaces that large.