Review Jeff Vogel reviews Mass Effect 3

[Esquilax]

With Wasteland 2, Shadowrun Returns, Dead State, Xenonauts and probably a few others I can't remember coming down the pipeline in the future, Vogel will be going the way of the do-do. It's probably smart that he wrote this Cover Letter for BioWare Mass Effect 3 Review now and seeks employment elsewhere before people stop buying his games because there are some actually viable alternatives for once.

 

[Roguey]

The Mass Effect series is one of the best series in the genre, written by one of the best development houses
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I think the Mass Effect setting is one of the best in computer games.
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Between Mass Effect and Dragon Age, I personally think that BioWare is the best maker of computer game settings.
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BioWare, a company known for awesome video game storytelling, creates a trilogy of games in one of the most well-realized imaginary worlds ever created in the medium.

This is what nothing-but-swill-consuming neckbeards actually believe.

 

[OSK]

It's hard to believe that this is the same guy who made the Geneforge series.

Then again, it's pretty easy to believe that this is the guy who made Avadon.

 

[Brother None]

With Wasteland 2, Shadowrun Returns, Dead State, Xenonauts and probably a few others I can't remember coming down the pipeline in the future, Vogel will be going the way of the do-do. It's probably smart that he wrote this Cover Letter for BioWare Mass Effect 3 Review now and seeks employment elsewhere before people stop buying his games because there are some actually viable alternatives for once.

I dunno. Isn't his fanbase pretty loyal? And I'm sure his sales are up now that he's joined Steam and all. He's probably better off now than he was a few years ago.

But you're right, things do seem to be changing a bit, for the better. We'll see.

 

[sea]

With Wasteland 2, Shadowrun Returns, Dead State, Xenonauts and probably a few others I can't remember coming down the pipeline in the future, Vogel will be going the way of the do-do. It's probably smart that he wrote this Cover Letter for BioWare Mass Effect 3 Review now and seeks employment elsewhere before people stop buying his games because there are some actually viable alternatives for once.

It's kind of funny because he's more than talented enough to get a job there. Seriously, they hire 18 year old girls to do particle effects etc., I think a 30-something programmer with decades of experience making RPGs would be a shoe-in. Maybe BioWare don't actually want him, for the fact that he can be kind of vocal/outspoken and lacks malleability. If they do have the suck-up corporate culture in place then I can see someone thinking he's "too independent" etc.

 

[Kz3r0]

Seriously, they hire 18 year old girls to do particle effects etc., I think a 30-something programmer with decades of experience making RPGs would be a shoe-in.

He probably gives better BJs I concede this.

 

[Esquilax]

I dunno. Isn't his fanbase pretty loyal? And I'm sure his sales are up now that he's joined Steam and all. He's probably better off now than he was a few years ago.

But you're right, things do seem to be changing a bit, for the better. We'll see.

I was exaggerating a bit for comedic effect. However, it is definitely possible that Vogel might have to change his business model somewhat in order to adapt to a post-Kickstarter environment. It's hard to predict at this point because Kickstarter is still in that "dream" phase where everybody's imaginations and expectations are building things up to some imaginary "perfect game" because there hasn't been anything solid yet.* But what I do know is that for roughly the past ten years, the only choices gamers have really had were bland multi-million AAA products or shoestring indies for the most part. But now that you have the opportunity to develop a product that has a lot of talented people working on it, total creative freedom, good production values, and a lot of individuals specialized into art/music/sound/level design/programming instead of one guy doing everything, well, it's going to change the playing field pretty drastically.

But hey, I could be wrong. I don't know how loyal Vogel's fanbase is, so they might stick with him. But then again, if they see other people providing the content they crave (proper isometric turn-based RPG's), only in an even better package, then it might hurt Vogel too.

* Case in point, Age of Decadence. Look at the difference in the enthusiasm in this place before and after the public beta.

It's kind of funny because he's more than talented enough to get a job there. Seriously, they hire 18 year old girls to do particle effects etc., I think a 30-something programmer with decades of experience making RPGs would be a shoe-in. Maybe BioWare don't actually want him, for the fact that he can be kind of vocal/outspoken and lacks malleability. If they do have the suck-up corporate culture in place then I can see someone thinking he's "too independent" etc.

No fucking way, really? Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a link for this?

As disgusting as that "review" was, I definitely agree with you here. When you've worked on your own as a one-man operation for over 15 years (it's hard not to respect Vogel's hustle and his ability to carve out a niche) it's probably impossible to kowtow to that cookie-cutter modern BioWare/EA way of doing things.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

Seriously, they hire 18 year old girls to do particle effects etc.

Wat? Link please?

 

[RK47]

Pics of the 18 year old girl too. While you're at it.

 

[abnaxus]

Pics of the 18 year old girl too. While you're at it.

Bit of a misunderstanding, though. They didn't hire girls for particle effects, but to affect their particles. See that Kickstarter money at work.

 

[RK47]

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Nice chairs. Green. Durable Plastic. Yeah.

 

[circ]

Looks like a 30 something russian with a shitload of fake parts. That or she used hedge clippers to trim her nose hair.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

This is what nothing-but-swill-consuming neckbeards actually believe.

Note the bare contempt towards male secondary sexual characteristics and conflating these with some specific attitude.

 

[Excommunicator]

I do remember a link to some young girl's blog/website - I think it was in the Bioware/ME thread - who was hired to do some sort of art for Bioware barely out of school. That may have been what sea was talking about.

 

[Daemongar]

Looks like a 30 something russian with a shitload of fake parts. That or she used hedge clippers to trim her nose hair.

Yeah! 2/10 Would not fuck!

 

[SCO]

the male gaze is harsh

 

[Morkar Left]

I do remember a link to some young girl's blog/website - I think it was in the Bioware/ME thread - who was hired to do some sort of art for Bioware barely out of school. That may have been what sea was talking about.

They probably have enough gamedesigners to get the job done but need more graphic artists. And trainees are cheaper than Vogel would be anyway.

 

[Morkar Left]

I referred to "some sort of art", the particle effects could be just an invention. Besides that what does Vogel know about particle effects and when it's easy I doubt they could pay him enough to abandon his business.

 

[Roguey]

This is what nothing-but-swill-consuming neckbeards actually believe.

Note the bare contempt towards male secondary sexual characteristics and conflating these with some specific attitude.

People with beards like Jeff Vogel's are universally disgusting, this is fact. If you don't have the decency to be clean shaven, neatly trimmed, or have fashionably neat stubble then you're a rotten slob.

 

[Roguey]

Facial hair is fine when properly groomed.

That beard looks like crusty shit.

 

[Sceptic]

Jesus christ, we've gone from mocking Vogel because of his Bioware-love to being angry at him because of Biowareness in Avadon to insulting him because of his beard?

 

[Roguey]

I have always insulted Vogel's beard. I can prove it too:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...e-post-oblivion-era.51304/page-2#post-1384753

I'll give those Vogel games a try when I get over his neckbeard appearance (the graphics are fine, it's really just him keeping me away).

I was so young.

 

[circ]

Wow. Never have I refused to play a game... because the developer looked like a fuckhead. Because the game looked and played like shit... sure.

 

[Esquilax]

Wow. Never have I refused to play a game... because the developer looked like a fuckhead.

No, but you have refused to fuck women on account of sharp knees. You did it a page ago.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

perhaps ms roguey is repulsed the notion of him symbolically touching her by proxy through his entertainment software

horrible beard terrible grooming 2/10 would not play games