Layoffs at ZA/UM, unannounced game cancelled

[normie]

You guys all seem oblivious to the fact that the truly communist core of ZA/UM (Kurvitz and his closest friends) is no longer there, they all got fired back in 2022, and for years the studio has been under the rule of firmly capitalist CEO, Ilmar Kompus. It is his failures at management that are the reason for cancelling games and sacking dozens of employees.

Kurvitz may call himself a communist, but his actions as described by his peers in that video recount him as a capitalist - same as the people he claims stole his IP. He wanted to be at the top, with his "in group," doing less work than the people below him while receiving more credit and money. That is not communism. Maybe his ideologies are communist, but his actions seem anything but (if one simply goes off of what was described in that video by his coworkers - i.e. 2-4month or 2 year sabbaticals and trying to dive in to strongarm a leadership role).

who are you on the dev team?

 

[REhorror]

Know this from yahoo.co.jp news yesterday.
I dancing all night.

 

[PsihoKekec]

I'm surprised it took this long.

 

[Colossal Maximus]

You guys all seem oblivious to the fact that the truly communist core of ZA/UM (Kurvitz and his closest friends) is no longer there, they all got fired back in 2022, and for years the studio has been under the rule of firmly capitalist CEO, Ilmar Kompus. It is his failures at management that are the reason for cancelling games and sacking dozens of employees.

Kurvitz may call himself a communist, but his actions as described by his peers in that video recount him as a capitalist - same as the people he claims stole his IP. He wanted to be at the top, with his "in group," doing less work than the people below him while receiving more credit and money. That is not communism. Maybe his ideologies are communist, but his actions seem anything but (if one simply goes off of what was described in that video by his coworkers - i.e. 2-4month or 2 year sabbaticals and trying to dive in to strongarm a leadership role).

who are you on the dev team?

I am Ayn Rand. And I am a proponent of communism.

 

[NotSweeper]

I ain't big on this Disco shit, but I do love drama.

 

[REhorror]

I ain't big on this Disco shit, but I do love drama.

The drama is more interesting than the game, interesting!

 

[NotSweeper]

The drama is more interesting than the game, interesting!

My favorite part is how everyone who talks about Commie Elysium is either a communist, or commie adjacent.
>BUT MUH PRIVATE CAPITAL IS EVIL
>EY YO LET ME JUST GET SOME OF THAT PRIVATE CAPITAL MONEY TO FINANCE MY GAME
>proceed to get fucked over by said private capital
Kurvitz played himself, he deserved what he got. You ever see Styg rubbing hands with Jews? Of course not. Cause he a smart nigga. He toiled in silence while working a day job. He ain't some faggoty ass Estonian.

 

[REhorror]

The drama is more interesting than the game, interesting!

My favorite part is how everyone who talks about Commie Elysium is either a communist, or commie adjacent.
>BUT MUH PRIVATE CAPITAL IS EVIL
>EY YO LET ME JUST GET SOME OF THAT PRIVATE CAPITAL MONEY TO FINANCE MY GAME
>proceed to get fucked over by the private capital
Kurvitz played himself, he deserved what he got. You ever see Styg rubbing hands with Jews? Of course not. Cause he a smart nigga. He toiled in silence while working a day job. He ain't some faggoty ass Estonian.

They are (probably) Trotskysts thus always schizo, right down to the fact they get helped and then fucked by anglos.

Now if only some mexicans get them, the Trotsky cycle would be completed.

 

[Colossal Maximus]

The drama is more interesting than the game, interesting!

My favorite part is how everyone who talks about Commie Elysium is either a communist, or commie adjacent.
>BUT MUH PRIVATE CAPITAL IS EVIL
>EY YO LET ME JUST GET SOME OF THAT PRIVATE CAPITAL MONEY TO FINANCE MY GAME
>proceed to get fucked over by said private capital
Kurvitz played himself, he deserved what he got. You ever see Styg rubbing hands with Jews? Of course not. Cause he a smart nigga. He toiled in silence while working a day job. He ain't some faggoty ass Estonian.

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever. Who needs investment capital? Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

 

[REhorror]

The drama is more interesting than the game, interesting!

My favorite part is how everyone who talks about Commie Elysium is either a communist, or commie adjacent.
>BUT MUH PRIVATE CAPITAL IS EVIL
>EY YO LET ME JUST GET SOME OF THAT PRIVATE CAPITAL MONEY TO FINANCE MY GAME
>proceed to get fucked over by said private capital
Kurvitz played himself, he deserved what he got. You ever see Styg rubbing hands with Jews? Of course not. Cause he a smart nigga. He toiled in silence while working a day job. He ain't some faggoty ass Estonian.

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever. Who needs investment capital? Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

Our boi Iron Towers didn't need it.

 

[NotSweeper]

Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

No, no, of course, you're right. They should Jew themselves out for cash and give up creative control over the thing they're creating.

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever.

I wouldn't say pretty much every game ever, but most would be fair, and I absolutely do.
There was of course a time when the people with the money just let the creatives do their thing (within reason), both in the vidya industry and in Hollywood. Those times are long behind us.

 

[Butter]

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever. Who needs investment capital? Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

The Mt. Rushmore of 2010s CRPGs would be Cleve, Pierre, Styg, and Vince (i.e. guys who spent 10+ years on passion projects instead of getting safe employment at Ubisoft). I just call it like I see it.

 

[Colossal Maximus]

Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

No, no, of course, you're right. They should Jew themselves out for cash and give up creative control over the thing they're creating.

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever.

I wouldn't say pretty much every game ever, but most would be fair, and I absolutely do.
There was of course a time when the people with the money just let the creatives do their thing (within reason), both in the vidya industry and in Hollywood. Those times are long behind us.

You sound like a communist. Or worse. Creatives should work for free!

 

[Athena]

Tyranicon​

The existence of devs like Kojimbo prove that team projects can have that singular "cohesion of intent"
For better or worse, Kojima's games are unquestionably Kojima's games

And unlike in the West, in Jap game development it's common for the game director to be the guy with the final decision over every aspect of the game
Obviously this means that if successful they get the laurels, but if not they get the chopping block

The Japanese are more attuned to authority and hierarchy, a director can more easily get his way there, while Western games tend to be more collaborative efforts and the director often has to compromise his vision to avoid alienating the staff (western dev groups = snowflakes aplenty).

 

[Colossal Maximus]

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever. Who needs investment capital? Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

The Mt. Rushmore of 2010s CRPGs would be Cleve, Pierre, Styg, and Vince (i.e. guys who spent 10+ years on passion projects instead of getting safe employment at Ubisoft). I just call it like I see it.

This is called survivors bias. Take a reality check of how 999 out of 1000 (being generous) fair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmwbYl6f11c&ab_channel=GDC

 

[Lord_Potato]

There was of course a time when the people with the money just let the creatives do their thing (within reason), both in the vidya industry and in Hollywood. Those times are long behind us.

And when exactly were those times, pray tell? When Activision forced Troika to make combat in Arcanum real time because they feared turn-based would not sell?

 

[NotSweeper]

There was of course a time when the people with the money just let the creatives do their thing (within reason), both in the vidya industry and in Hollywood. Those times are long behind us.

And when exactly were those times, pray tell? When Activision forced Troika to make combat in Arcanum real time because they feared turn-based would not sell?

Heroes of Might and Magic, Age of Empires, Fallout 2. Those were the AAA equivalents of their time.
It's funny you mention Arcanum, it's right about that time corporate started thinking they knew what's what.
Fast forward 20 years and everything is a carbon copy of everything else, cause that other thing made money.

 

[Twiglard]

I wonder what's The Wall's take on this.

 

[Lord_Potato]

I wonder what's The Wall's take on this.

Let me guess...

 

[mondblut]

In gaming (or film) those results are very often underwhelming. One author simply cannot deliver good quality of coding, writing, gameplay, visuals, music, sounds etc.

We can live with half-assed visuals, music, sounds and etc.

 

[Lord_Potato]

In gaming (or film) those results are very often underwhelming. One author simply cannot deliver good quality of coding, writing, gameplay, visuals, music, sounds etc.

We can live with half-assed visuals, music, sounds and etc.

We, meaning who exactly?

 

[mondblut]

In gaming (or film) those results are very often underwhelming. One author simply cannot deliver good quality of coding, writing, gameplay, visuals, music, sounds etc.

We can live with half-assed visuals, music, sounds and etc.

We, meaning who exactly?

The straight white men of RPGCodex, duh.

 

[NotSweeper]

Game developers should all take out 3 mortgages on their home and work on a game solo for 10 years and hope they become successful. Those damn greedy developers.

No, no, of course, you're right. They should Jew themselves out for cash and give up creative control over the thing they're creating.

By your logic you should hate pretty much every game ever.

I wouldn't say pretty much every game ever, but most would be fair, and I absolutely do.
There was of course a time when the people with the money just let the creatives do their thing (within reason), both in the vidya industry and in Hollywood. Those times are long behind us.

You sound like a communist. Or worse. Creatives should work for free!

Many do.

 

[Peacefriend]

Both in this thread and in some previous thread I saw it said that Za-Um were screwed by "Jews", and their mistake was trusting these "Jews".

Is there any concrete indication that these people (Kaur Kender, Ilmar Kompus, Tõnis Haavel) are Jews?
Estonia doesn't have very many Jews (0.1% according to 2021 Census, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Estonia#Ethnic_groups), and their names don't look immediately Jewish.

 

[normie]

Both in this thread and in some previous thread I saw it said that Za-Um were screwed by "Jews", and their mistake was trusting these "Jews".

Is there any concrete indication that these people (Kaur Kender, Ilmar Kompus, Tõnis Haavel) are Jews?
Estonia doesn't have very many Jews (0.1% according to 2021 Census, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Estonia#Ethnic_groups), and their names don't look immediately Jewish.

Kender is jewish but a low-tier slimy déraciné pornography jew who produces literary child porn, the type who'd have needed delousing to save from typhus not a hundred years ago, the rest just do business a la Estonjets