Let's Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup

[7hm]

Any tips for the crypt?

Is dispel undead worth getting before I go in?

Also, I went into my first wizlab today. Those things are cool. I got the cloud one. I love monsters that can't sInv

 

[Damned Registrations]

I'd grab dispel undead on anyone that can reliably cast it. There's such a huge variety of undead you're bound to encounter something immune to all the other stuff you got sooner or later. Not to mention player ghosts.

Only wizlab I've seen is the garden. Thought everything was going to be an easy stroll until the stone golems showed up. Also, not the best place to use fire magic in. Although, fire doesn't seem to torch loot in crawl, that I've noticed.

 

[Yeesh]

Once apon a time, I was down in the Vaults with shit equipment, I mean really just shit. I found a scroll of Acquirement, and I was very excited. I noticed that I'm not wearing ANY randart armor, and in addition my boots and cloak are +0 non-magical. The closest thing to a piece I like is my +1 gloves of dexterity, and they ain't so great. Nothing I could get could fail to be an upgrade. So poof, what appears at my feet? A pair of gloves. Here's my message history for trying them on:

You continue taking off your +1 pair of gloves of dexterity.
You finish taking off your +1 pair of gloves of dexterity.
You feel clumsy.
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on your pair of glowing gloves.
You finish putting on your +1 pair of gloves of dexterity.
You feel agile.

Awesome.

 

[Ashery]

Now just imagine worshiping Xom and having that type of luck happen constantly. Nothing like using a teleport scroll to get away from an ogre around level five or so only to have Xom port you right back only a couple turns later.

 

[7hm]

This is pretty well the luckiest game I've ever had.

I'm due to dying soon.

Just ran my ass away from Mara on DL:18 or so. Last thing I want it a copy of myself with a crazy katana and resistances to just about everything.

I'm being pretty careful though. My closest run in with death was in Shoals earlier against norris when i just kept spamming ozo's refrigeration and didn't notice he was also smiting me. Went down to 11 HP in like 4 moves of not paying attention. Oops.

 

[Yeesh]

I just don't pay enough attention. I didn't realize orc sorcerers summoned demons. Is this the end for Crunchy?

Crunchy the Warrior (Minotaur Berserker)                                                               Turns: 51034, Time: 10:10:11

HP  78/162       AC 26     Str 24      Exp: 17/205853 (2265), need: 55246
MP   8/8         EV 16     Int  6      God: Trog [******]
Gold 3740        SH  0     Dex 21      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   R - executioner's axe of Hacking and Slashing 
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   N - +2 plate mail {rPois}
Life Prot.: + + .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   g - +1 wizard hat {MR}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : +   L - +0 elf cloak
Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   n - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   G - +0 pair of boots
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   f - amulet of clarity
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   T - ring of Shadows {+Inv rN+ EV+4 Acc-3 SInv 
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   b - ring "Haesasy" {rN+ MR Dex+3 Int+2}

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: horns 2, carnivore 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Invisibility, Evoke Levitation


You are on level 4 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 42 of its levels.
You have visited 1 portal chamber: spiders nest.

You have collected 3720 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 s - a runed great mace
 w - an uncursed elven spear of venom
 B - a +0,+3 battleaxe of chopping {god gift}
 M - a +0,+9 dwarven hand axe of returning (quivered) {god gift}
 P - an uncursed crossbow of flame
 R - the executioner's axe of Hacking and Slashing (weapon) {god gift, freeze, +Blink +Lev rElec}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra 
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly 
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you levitate.
   It lets you blink.
 V - the +2,+6 battleaxe "Hewe" {god gift, freeze, rElec rC++ rN+}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra 
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly 
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 Z - a +2,+4 battleaxe of draining {god gift}
Missiles
 E - 15 +4 orcish darts
 F - 8 poisoned orcish darts
 Y - 22 exploding dwarven darts
Armour
 c - a twisted robe
 g - a +1 wizard hat of magic resistance (worn)
 n - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 q - an embroidered robe
 t - a +1 pair of gloves of dexterity
 G - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 L - a +0 elven cloak (worn)
 N - a +2 plate mail of poison resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
 d - a wand of fire {zapped: 7}
 i - a wand of digging (15)
 j - a wand of draining
 o - a wand of polymorph other
 r - a wand of cold {zapped: 6}
 z - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
 C - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 4}
 D - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}
 H - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 2}
Comestibles
 v - 2 bread rations
 x - 9 honeycombs
 y - 2 apples
Scrolls
 e - a scroll of fog
 p - 2 scrolls of identify
 u - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 3 scrolls of blinking
 I - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 K - 2 scrolls of detect curse
 O - a scroll of recharging
 Q - a scroll labeled PESMAXK AMOXTO
 S - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
Jewellery
 b - the ring "Haesasy" (left hand) {rN+ MR Dex+3 Int+2}
   (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 f - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 h - an uncursed ring of levitation
 l - the ring of Dishonour {*TELE EV+5 Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Hive)   
   [ring of teleportation]
   It affects your evasion (+5).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 T - the ring of Shadows (right hand) {+Inv rN+ EV+4 Acc-3 SInv Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   [ring of invisibility]
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It affects your accuracy (-3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 U - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
Potions
 k - 10 potions of healing
 m - 5 potions of heal wounds
 J - an oily blue potion
 W - a potion of restore abilities

I can blink with my new axe, but it would be uncontrolled. I'm just screwed, right? I could have stayed on the stairs and zapped him with a wand or something. Fucking summoners. Fucking Torment.

 

[7hm]

Didn't you read Mr. Hawking's story? That's how he died.

You're not screwed... You have scrolls of blinking and of teleport. I'd probably use teleport in this case. In the position you're in you only have to worry about the warg (unless the sorceror summons a hellion, then blink the fuck out of there asap because they do smite targeted fire damage). I'd probably drink a healing potion as well while youre waiting for the teleport, just in case it goes badly (if it goes badly, blink - with a scroll - to safety).

 

[Ashery]

Most likely *NOT* the best thing to do, but I'm curious as to what some others would expect to happen if you did the following:

Blink next to the summoner, rage, and take him down before any more summons come out.

Could also try the wand of draining, but I'm guessing that that wouldn't take him down as quickly as the blink + rage combo, although on the up side you'd still be able to port.

Hell, you could get the port setup and spam the wand while waiting.

 

[Yeesh]

So the teleport dropped me down here, which could have been worse but could have been better. Luckily I don't have any fire resistance. Charge the dragon? Try to run up through the blackness to the stairs? Blink and just let the RNG decide?

 

[Malakal]

I think its too early to run, just spam draining until orc dies and then go up and wait for summons to expire.

 

[7hm]

At this point? I'd probably just run. Blink if necessary.

How are you at vaults with no rF?

I'm curious as to what some others would expect to happen if you did the following:

Blink next to the summoner, rage, and take him down before any more summons come out.

Odds are that he'd take the summoner down, but it's also possible that the summoner would summon something nasty and strong enough to kill him, and while he's zerking he can't read his escape scrolls.

Nothing wrong with a bit of caution in this case.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Just remember you have scrolls of blinking too, those are damn near the best escape tool in the game. Normally I only see shadow and ice dragons in the vaults, and you have a lot of negative resist. Kinda shitty you found the one dragon type that can fuck you up. At least you got a wand of cold and a frost branded axe to take him down after your hp are back up to full.

 

[dextermorgan]

Right, I finally got a decent char going in the form of a stabby enchanter. My eq is sort of crap at this time, I've found the entrance to Orc Mines and am wondering where to take it next... Here's the dump file:


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-1-g7ce9b19 character file.

Vlad the Blackguard (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 12456, Time: 01:17:13

HP 54/54 AC 6 Str 10 Exp: 9/4437 (14), need: 1427
MP 18/18 EV 14 Int 17 God: Nemelex Xobeh [**....]
Gold 295 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 4 memorised, 4 levels left

Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + t - +1,+2 orc dagger
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . x - +0 robe {rF+}
Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield)
Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . j - +0 helmet
Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . N - +2 cloak
Spirit.Shd: . Stasis : . (no gloves)
Sust.Abil.: . . Rnd.Telep. : . (no boots)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: fangs 3, see invisible
a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Draw One, Peek at Two, Renounce Religion


You are on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worship Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh is most pleased with you.
You are not thirsty.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.

You have collected 275 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
t - a +1,+2 orcish dagger (weapon)
F - an uncursed orcish scimitar of freezing
M - an uncursed sling of flame
Missiles
d - 9 +1 darts (quivered)
f - 29 runed darts
v - 41 darts
w - 22 sling bullets
D - 18 poisoned needles
G - 51 orcish darts
H - 4 needles of slowing
L - 4 poisoned dwarven darts
S - 25 runed sling bullets
Armour
j - a +0 helmet (worn)
x - a +0 robe of fire resistance (worn)
A - a +3 orcish leather armour
N - a +2 cloak (worn)
Magical devices
z - a long wooden wand
V - a short bone wand
Scrolls
a - a scroll labeled HAXKEG AL KEQ
e - a scroll labeled CHYNUO RAOPY {tried on item}
l - a scroll of teleportation
p - 4 scrolls of remove curse
r - a scroll labeled LIUJIN UMETZ
s - 2 scrolls labeled CRI GRAOCI
Y - a scroll labeled LAUMME CHAIC
Z - a scroll labeled AZAS ATICE
Jewellery
q - a tubular jade ring
u - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
P - an uncursed thick sapphire amulet
R - an uncursed marble ring {tried}
Potions
h - a metallic white potion
i - a sedimented orange potion
k - a potion of healing
m - an emulsified pink potion
n - a slimy green potion
E - 2 viscous inky potions
I - 2 purple potions
T - a black potion
Books
c - a book of Charms
Spells Type Level
*Corona Enchantment 1
Repel Missiles Enchantment/Air 2
*Ensorcelled Hibernation Enchantment/Ice 2
*Confuse Enchantment 3
*Enslavement Enchantment 4
Silence Enchantment/Air 5
Invisibility Enchantment 6

g - a book of Wizardry
Spells Type Level
Selective Amnesia Enchantment 4
Summon Elemental Summoning 4
Teleport Self Translocation 5
Fireball Conjuration/Fire 6
Haste Enchantment 6

y - a book of Air
Spells Type Level
Shock Conjuration/Air 1
Swiftness Enchantment/Air 2
Repel Missiles Enchantment/Air 2
Levitation Enchantment/Air 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 4

K - a book of Ice
Spells Type Level
Freezing Aura Enchantment/Ice 2
*Ensorcelled Hibernation Enchantment/Ice 2
Condensation Shield Ice/Transmutation 4
Ozocubu's Refrigeration Ice 5
Bolt of Cold Conjuration/Ice 6
Simulacrum Ice/Necromancy 6
Metabolic Englaciation Enchantment/Ice 7

Miscellaneous
b - a plain deck of cards {god gift}
o - a plain deck of cards {god gift}
C - a plain deck of cards {god gift}
W - a plain deck of cards {god gift}


You have 14 experience left.

Skills:
- Level 1 Fighting
- Level 3 Short Blades
- Level 1 Throwing
+ Level 4 Dodging
+ Level 5 Stealth
+ Level 9 Stabbing
- Level 1 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 3 Spellcasting
+ Level 8 Enchantments
- Level 3 Ice Magic


You have 4 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Success Level
a - Corona Ench #####... Excellent 1
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Ench ####... Excellent 2
c - Confuse Ench #####.... Excellent 3
d - Enslavement Ench #####.... Great 4


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:6

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Annotations
D:6 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can bottle blood from corpses.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.




Right-click to toggle between mutations and properties depending on your
hunger status.


Message History

Nemelex Xobeh says: It's all in the cards!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
You are undead.
At your current hunger state you resist negative energy.
Your movement speed is average. Your attack speed is above average.
You are somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments.
You feel quite stealthy.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
Pikel (D:4)
Joseph (D:7)
Edmund (D:3)
3 slaves (D:4)
2 ogres
4 orc warriors (D:6)
3 ice beasts
A centaur (D:7)
Sigmund (D:3)
3 giant frogs (D:6)
A killer bee zombie (D:5)
3 imps
2 hounds
An iguana (D:6)
Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
5 orc priests
2 orc wizards (D:5)
2 scorpions
8 giant ants
A jelly (D:7)
14 gnolls
A green rat (D:6)
An iguana zombie (D:7)
10 snakes
A scorpion zombie (D:7)
2 snake skeletons
2 worms
A giant mite (D:2)
Terence (D:2)
A grey rat (D:6)
A giant eyeball (D:6)
3 giant geckos
An ooze (D:2)
13 giant bats
7 giant cockroaches
10 hobgoblins
3 jackals (D:3)
37 orcs
3 quokkas
4 small snakes
7 giant newts
21 goblins
A hobgoblin zombie (D:6)
9 kobolds
A kobold skeleton (D:4)
2 orc skeletons
15 rats
A toadstool (D:6)
219 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
An iguana (D:4)
2 orcs (D:6)
A small snake (D:5)
A plant (D:6)
7 toadstools
12 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 231 creatures vanquished

 

[7hm]

^^^ put it in

 and take out the stuff that doesn't matter

Have you turned off your short blade and unarmed skills?

Turn off enchantments as well.  It's high enough for now - you need to gain spellcasting so you can reduce your spell hunger + increase your success rate.

...

My SpEn just cleared Vaults and the dungeon is clear.  I've left the Crypt alone for now because of Khufu standing on the entrance (for the last 20k turns....).

I'm pretty confidant he could stand a trip to the abyss (have haste at no-hunger excellent, even though its nerfed in trunk), so I'm thinking the final vault in Elf, then maybe dip into slime - all my stuff is pretty much randarts, and then open up zot? 

As much as I may want to experience the endgame content, I just want to get a win.

edit

fuck
fuck
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

 

[Yeesh]

I ran to the stairs, meeting nothing along the way but a single butterfly that of course managed to get in my way and delay me for a turn, but I made it without seeing the dragon's breath. Once up there, I rested up, dropped my scrolls, and returned down the stairs in a berserker rage. The dragon lasted two hits and wasn't even enough of a gentleman to leave a corpse. Fucker. I really could have used fire resistance.

I am at a loss as to where to go now. Of course I didn't get the Snake PIts, so I'm left with the choice of:

Icy Swamp 5 (and I don't have a fire brand axe, plus they don't recommend meleeing ice hydras anyway)
Shoals (never been, sounds like death to slow melee characters)
Slime Pits (never been, doesn't sound pleasant. Did I mention I don't use randart armor? But I do have exactly one piece of randart platemail I could put on.)
Elf Halls (I don't think it would be too bad with clarity and see inv, but THAT's the place I've been avoiding because I don't have fire resistance. They'll burn my pretty scrolls)
Dungeon 19+
Keep on Vaults truckin' (maybe find the Hall of Blades and get me a firebrand axe!)

Thanks for all the help. I'm really learning the fine art of knowing when to hold em, and when to fold em.

EDIT: Speaking of the Vaults, is it worth trying to dig into all those empty squares that look like rooms without doors? I tried one and it was just solid rock. But if some weren't...

EDIT EDIT:

You are wielding the -5,+6 executioner's axe of Hacking and Slashing {god gift, freeze, +Blink +Lev rElec}.

Fuck you, Trog. Fuck you.

 

[Damned Registrations]

@ Dexter:

You should wear your jewelry to try an ID some of it, you got 4 remove curse scrolls, so there's no danger. I'd avoid the orc mines for now, priests and wizards can do a hefty number on a vampire. Go check out the lair. Most stuff in there can be put to sleep or confused easily enough, and there isn't much in the way of ranged attacks, which is your biggest weakness right now.

Anyone wondering about slime pits: STAY THE FUCK AWAY. Even the first level can be extremely deadly, with very fast enchantment/poison immune bastards that hit multiple times for heavy acid/cold damage. Slime pits is for summoners and casters that can murder shit from afar completely reliably, or warriors with over 150 hp and full randart gear with tons of resists.

@ Yeesh, I suggest swamp 5, your ice axe at least grants more cold resist so any ice damage in there will be neglible for you. Also, don't forget you can use Trog's spellbook burning for fire attacks. Just don't go trying to melee hydras and you should be ok. Hall of Blades might be worth checking out too, since a fire brand will be nice for hydras in the long run, simulacrums or not. But you might run into hydras on your way there anyways. I've only done Shoals with a perma flying missile immune stabber spamming intoxication, so I'm not sure how dangerous stuff like mermaids and sirens will be for a melee character. I can tell you this much: the tides cut off land routes a LOT. The bottom does have a ton of nice loot though, multiple easily raided mini vaults with a few guards in each. Much nicer than the end of the Elf branch, which had like 20 high level elves, 18 of them casters and about half of those summoners. And it had less loot after all that work too. Though I think I ran into Aizul in shoals, so, blarg.

 

[dextermorgan]

fuck
fuck
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

Me too, just went down to the swamp and got confuse-raped by a drake and a bunch of wisps. It was my best run so far, I'm not complaining.

 

[Yeesh]

edit

fuck
fuck
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

???

 

[7hm]

I got cocky on elf after having an extremely easy time with the first part of the vault.

I over extended and tried to stab a blademaster. And there's no tcontrol for your blink scrolls so I had no escape once I started getting blasted from one side and hit from the other.

Fuck. He was definitely good enough to win too. Was good enough to murder all the bastards in elf too, if I had just gone a bit slower.

Poison arrow is a hell of a spell.

 

[Ashery]

Elf Halls (I don't think it would be too bad with clarity and see inv, but THAT's the place I've been avoiding because I don't have fire resistance. They'll burn my pretty scrolls)

No kidding.

I ended up making a mini stash at the entrance where I stashed every scroll (Ring of tele and Chei's third ability for escape if needed) and extra potions upon clearing each level.

Getting really fucking tired of the constant drain attacks around midway down the halls, even with 2/3 life prot and an amulet of warding.

On a more positive note, to counterbalance 7hm's death, I found my first rune at the end of the snake pit. Was surprisingly easy thanks to the layout (many single tile halls) that allowed my Chei worshiping fighter to slowly hack his way through the guardians. Much unlike the previous level where half the map is off limits (Disconnected level, fortunately) due to that Boris fucker.

 

[hoverdog]

fuck
fuck
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

+1

my best-to-date character, another deep elf wizard, got massacred by white horrible things, or ugly things, or whatever the fuck they are called. motherfucking blink blinked me right in the center of their horde. tentacle rape commenced.

 

[7hm]

Elf Halls (I don't think it would be too bad with clarity and see inv, but THAT's the place I've been avoiding because I don't have fire resistance. They'll burn my pretty scrolls)

No kidding.

I ended up making a mini stash at the entrance where I stashed every scroll (Ring of tele and Chei's third ability for escape if needed) and extra potions upon clearing each level.

Getting really fucking tired of the constant drain attacks around midway down the halls, even with 2/3 life prot and an amulet of warding.

On a more positive note, to counterbalance 7hm's death, I found my first rune at the end of the snake pit. Was surprisingly easy thanks to the layout (many single tile halls) that allowed my Chei worshiping fighter to slowly hack his way through the guardians. Much unlike the previous level where half the map is off limits (Disconnected level, fortunately) due to that Boris fucker.

Congrats!

I didn't have an issue with draining until vault:8 when I encountered a bunch of shadow dragons.

To die with a guy who was two shotting stone giants and dragons. Bah.

 

[Yeesh]

I got cocky on elf after having an extremely easy time with the first part of the vault.

I over extended and tried to stab a blademaster. And there's no tcontrol for your blink scrolls so I had no escape once I started getting blasted from one side and hit from the other.

Fuck. He was definitely good enough to win too. Was good enough to murder all the bastards in elf too, if I had just gone a bit slower.

Poison arrow is a hell of a spell.

RIP.

Crunchy's time will come soon. This game really rewards you for playing like a wuss and not taking chances. If I were Trog, I wouldn't even be part of it.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Can anyone tell me exactly what to do to make auto-explore stop when my spells are about to expire?It gives me the -more- prompt when something was about to run out, but then continue exploring when I hit a button, letting the spell drop anyways.

All I want is to be able to loot these shitty levels without starving to death recasting deflect missiles or running out of mana recasting flight and tele control and extension.

 

[Ashery]

So I decided to drop down for a look at Vaults:8...

Thoughts?