Memorable moments in otherwise mediocre/lame RPGs

[Qwinn]

Hmmm. Is the riddle based on a double-entendre? Meaning, is the answer a word with multiple meanings, and parts of the riddle describe one meaning and others describe a different meaning?

Qwinn

 

[Anthony Davis]

Taxes?

 

[Imbecile]

What is it that nobody likes, but directs even the greatest of King's actions. It is much like a blade, and made to hurt, but it has never killed anyone, even though wounding thousands. It thieves no one but becomes rich. It spans the whole world and makes life fit. The greatest of kingdoms it has built, and founded the oldest of them all, but never has it started a war and those that believe in it will be fit forevermore

A good bowel movement?

 

[Qwinn]

Heh, taxes is a pretty damn good answer, but I'd have to argue against the notion that it thieves no one or has never killed anyone I suppose that's more of a political argument though.

Qwinn

 

[Erebus]

The trial in NWN2; it was completely cosmetic, and didn't hold up to a second playthrough, but first time through - without knowing just how linear the outcome was - it was exciting, novel and interesting.

I enjoyed the trial too. Torio Claven is an interesting enemy, relying on words rather than strength or magic to get you killed.

My main problem with the trial (other than the fact there's only one ending) is that the case against you is ridiculously weak. The only proof (other than Luskan's obviously dubious word) is that a single witness saw you. In a world where magic is extremely common, it's hardly strong evidence. There's nothing else. The witness didn't even see anyone looking like your companions. There are no motives, no material clues, nothing.

So I was a bit annoyed when the asshole on the throne (flanked by a priest of fucking Tyr !) nevertheless ruled against me the first time I played the game. It's true that Torio's insinuations were efficient (my Diplomacy wasn't quite good enough and my Influence over Shandra wasn't too great), but the facts were massively in my favor : I had several proofs of Luskan involvement AND a witness clearly gifted with second sight testifying that the murderer wasn't me. I also had one of the Nine praising my service to Neverwinter. What more could anyone remotely reasonable want ?

Obviously, the conclusion of the trial should have had a greater importance. But I think an effort should also have been made to make the case against you more believable (fabricated evidence, stuff like that...). As it is, I felt like the result of the trial mainly depended on whether you had 20 in Diplomacy (as opposed to only 15) and whether you'd been kissing up to Shandra sufficiently, instead of whether you'd gathered strong evidence to refute the accusations.

 

[Gnidrologist]

If people are still curious about the riddle, here are two hints for you:

# None of the answers so far are correct.

# It's a physical object. You can touch it and feel it.

Heart?

 

[Anthony Davis]

Heh, taxes is a pretty damn good answer, but I'd have to argue against the notion that it thieves no one or has never killed anyone I suppose that's more of a political argument though.

Qwinn

Taxes thieve me every year. ;-)

 

[Annie Mitsoda]

If people are still curious about the riddle, here are two hints for you:

# None of the answers so far are correct.

# It's a physical object. You can touch it and feel it.

Heart?

I'd say no, but it can summon Captain Planet, that's for sure.

It's not money, because the "nobody likes" phrase no worky, and the "spans the whole world" phrase is weirding me out because it's ALSO something physical, and that makes me think of things like water/stone/earth but they don't seem to fit.

This really IS going to drive us all crazy, you know.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

You are beginning to understand what I had to go through. Good.

The "spans the whole world" bit is better explained with "has spread all over the world" or "has found its way all over the world".

I am now absolutely certain that this riddle is a victim of a poor translation job. Some sentences only vaguely or partially apply towards the answer. I'll keep this up for a little longer and then just reveal the answer myself. I don't want to derail this thread for too long.

 

[poocolator]

Hitler?

 

[poocolator]

Oh I know what it very likely could be. My Hitler answer isn't too far off but is too specific.Am I right?

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Screwing the aliens over in favor of preserving the human fleet in Mass Effect. It was a true Codex moment since the ship was filled with that all female race that could breed with ANYTHING (damned Trannies). It's a shame the rest of the game sucked.

 

[Luzur]

helping a couple of giant radscorpions kill off bigtown.

led them into town and then tcl up on a roof and watched the carnage.

 

[Smarts]

Culling the party evil-style after turning to the Dark Side in KOTOR1.

Re: the NWN2 trial. Isn't talking about 'punishing' players redundant, given that poorly-spoken characters can have Sand handle the trial, and poor-in-combat characters can have Khelgar face Lorne?

 

[Thrasher]

AKA give us a reason to play a game when you're desperate for something new.

 

[Micormic]

I do wish we had left in the option to be executed but I admit that it REALLY hampered low intelligence and low skill main characters.

Nothin' like some good ol' dumbin' down here and there, aye?

Well, not really dumbing down...but getting all the way to act 2 with your brute fighter and then having a game over with nothing you can do about it is kind of harsh.

Balancing and accessibility are real challenges with DnD games that allow player created characters... but that is another discussion.

As for a restore...I doubt it, unless we somehow shipped with some of the early material.

your company is a joke and you have no talent as a gme designer.

 

[Jora]

your company is a joke and you have no talent as a gme designer.

Why should he? He's a programmer. Besides, there's nothing wrong with his reasoning in the post you quoted.

 

[Starwars]

-Going evil at the end of NWN2 was kinda satisfying, but mainly in that you got to kill off the more annoying party members.

-Kinda the same in KOTOR1.

 

[mountain hare]

A number of the bugs in Ultima 9 were hilariously bad. I'm tempted to play that piece of shit and make a collage of all the bugs that occur in a single playthrough.

 

[someone else]

I'll give you a memorable moment. Legend Of Faerghail is an old RPG some of you know of that, among its many features, had Elementals pop up here and there and ask you riddles which you had to solve in order to pass.

Hey that's one of my earliest RPGs and I remember that riddle but not the answer. Though I re-installed it a couple of years ago and read the walkthrough. I never did win the game did I?

*Thinks* was it coal? No thats what I got for Christmas.

EDIT: So I went and got the answer, problem with the translation I guess.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

What is it that nobody likes, but directs even the greatest of King's actions. It is much like a blade, and made to hurt, but it has never killed anyone, even though wounding thousands. It thieves no one but becomes rich. It spans the whole world and makes life fit. The greatest of kingdoms it has built, and founded the oldest of them all, but never has it started a war and those that believe in it will be fit forevermore

A good bowel movement?

A turd that wounds thousands? It thieves, yet becomes rich? I agree that crap is currently spanning the entire world, not sure how it makes life fit.

What kingdoms has shit built? The oldest of them? and those that believe in excrement will be fit forevermore?

Amusing.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Call me a fag if you want, but the only thing that fits that description for me is

love

 

[entertainer]

ur a fag lol

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Ask ur momma lol

 

[Azrael the cat]

Taking the 'focus all guns on sovereign / let the council die' option in the last part of Mass Effect. Mainly because it was the one good NPC (Joker - yep, the guy voiced by the most famous voice actor in the game (Seth Green, not that he's l33t or anything, but he was good for the part), the one likeable but not cliched NPC, and the one that you can't actually have join your party or do anything but sprout dialogue betwen mossions), in his best moment.

Having the council begging for help, and then Joker half-rolling his eyes as he cuts them off by switching off the radio comm, was pretty cool as far as sit-back-and-watch-despite-it-being-a-game-not-a-movie cutscenes go.