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Obsidian...what happened?

Häyhä

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All those words about "Obsidian declined". No they did not decline. They have always been mediocre and are extremely overrated on this forum. It is not a decline, it is just you coming to terms with their true nature after many years of brainwashing/believing your own lies and hype.

Even their best success, New Vegas, was not really that good as people make it out to be. Fallout 3 was better as a video game. It was better designed, apart from the extra weapons that New Vegas had. You people are always mesmerized by cheap tricks and cheap words in a video game, while you fail to appriecate the actual meat of a video game, the gameplay, the maps, the exploration, the enemies, etc. All you need to look for is around 30 or more speechchecks and some stupid endgame slideshow which changes slightly depending on some not-really-important choices in the game and suddenly you are ecstatic. Like the rest of the 90 hours you spend on the game and were inferior to another game didn't matter at all. This is the definition of autism.

Have to hand it to you, you really work to keep your "Dumbfuck!" title belt. Now go get your fucking shine box and start paying your debts. :lol:

 

Roguey

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I would really like to know how they came to make decisions like, let's just get this imperious independent judge character we built up the whole game, to bend over and become your sex slave after 5 seconds of conversation.

You have to win him over with evidence and good arguments. On my rebel playthrough, I had no choice but to fight him.
 
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I think my biggest gripe with Tyranny is that the Big Bad evil overlord never even shows up, even though they continuously tease you about him/her throughout the whole game. The story ended in a huge fucking cliffhanger. That being said, it still had a semi memorable story where the protagonist is allowed to join different factions and have different endings as a result. The same can’t be said for many other modern “AAA” titles...

Like in Pillars 2 when you get to the end, you aren’t even given a choice to stop the antagonist. The antagonist listens to your reasoning, went, “cool story, bro.” and then proceeds to keep doing whatever he was going to do anyways. It was probably the most retarded moment in gaming for me.
 

Tigranes

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I would really like to know how they came to make decisions like, let's just get this imperious independent judge character we built up the whole game, to bend over and become your sex slave after 5 seconds of conversation.

You have to win him over with evidence and good arguments. On my rebel playthrough, I had no choice but to fight him.

No, there's not much of a debate. I believe in my first playthrough I just get chummy with the improbable deus ex machina dude with a bad porn name (Bleden Mark, really) and break the two big faction dudes, and then there's all this fanfare about how the judge is not like these regional warlords and he is truly enigmatic and independent and blah blah and after like two generic lines he says come upstairs and I'll suck you real good.
 

Daedalos

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Pillars of Eternity 1 was seriously decent for me, despite all the glaring flaws that's been discussed to death already. I liked it alot in terms of writing and overall story, even if the combat was shitty at release and beyond.

It was the last good obsidian game, for me anyway. It's been steep downhill since forever.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
And doesn't bother to remember those three FNV DLCs Chris wrote.

Which ones did Chris write?

The DLCs were of varying quality. It may be because I attempted them at too high a level which led to level scaled enemies having overly bloated HP (but that's on the designers, they should have expected players to tackle the DLC at high levels and adjusted the scaling to be less bullshit), but gameplay-wise the DLC were all weaker than the base game. I enjoyed Honest Hearts and Old World Blues the most gameplay-wise, while Dead Money was a chore to get through and Lonesome Road was mostly a linear shooting gallery.

New Vegas worked well enough but the DLC all featured smaller areas and less exploration, and gameplay-wise Obsidian just doesn't know how to create well-designed linear areas. Their gameplay has always been bad, especially the encounter design. Name me one Obsidian game with genuinely good level and encounter design from start to finish. Just one. I'm waiting.
 

The Avatar

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The New Vegas DLCs are overrated, and best known for having cool names, but not a lot of substance. I appreciate the change in environment, but I remember the canyons in Honest Hearts looked terrible, even for the time.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
The best part about Honest Hearts were the cute barefoot outfits which my character kept wearing for the rest of the game :M

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Zer0wing

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The best part about Honest Hearts were the cute barefoot outfits which my character kept wearing for the rest of the game :M
That's not a very good body mod though.
Which ones did Chris write?
Dead Money-Old World Blues-Lonesome Road. HH is Gonzales' effort.
Name me one Obsidian game with genuinely good level and encounter design from start to finish. Just one. I'm waiting.
South Park.:M
 
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JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Also I fully believe that Feargus is responsible for the bad quality of Obsidian's games.

Just look at the guy's name.

His name is Feargus Urquheart.

What kind of real person has a name like that? This sounds like the kind of name an RPG villain would have. When I was younger I always thought that was a pen name cause it fits to the owner of a game dev company specialized on fantasy RPGs. But it's his real name! Of course he's the villain!!
 

Morpheus Kitami

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What kind of real person has a name like that? This sounds like the kind of name an RPG villain would have. When I was younger I always thought that was a pen name cause it fits to the owner of a game dev company specialized on fantasy RPGs. But it's his real name! Of course he's the villain!!
Its a Scottish name, the kind Scottish people have. Scottish guy doesn't have a name that's Angus MacDuncan and suddenly everyone acts like its a demon wrung forth from Hell itself. Good thing he isn't German, or you'd be making fun of how his name sounds like he's having a drunken coughing fit.
 

Nano

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In
Dead Money-Old World Blues-Lonesome Road. HH is Gonzales' effort.
Gonzalez wrote the Survivalist's logs and a few NPCs, but I'm pretty sure Sawyer was the creative lead on HH. He wrote the Burned Man, after all.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
What kind of real person has a name like that? This sounds like the kind of name an RPG villain would have. When I was younger I always thought that was a pen name cause it fits to the owner of a game dev company specialized on fantasy RPGs. But it's his real name! Of course he's the villain!!
Its a Scottish name, the kind Scottish people have. Scottish guy doesn't have a name that's Angus MacDuncan and suddenly everyone acts like its a demon wrung forth from Hell itself. Good thing he isn't German, or you'd be making fun of how his name sounds like he's having a drunken coughing fit.

I think it's the spelling that throws me off. I know Fergus is a real name but when you spell it as Feargus, it just sounds like a fantasy villain. Fear-Gus. Sinister.
 

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