Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Zorba the Hutt]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68843-official-appeal-to-refund-kickstarter-pledge/

Aspergers charities everywhere thank you Sensuki

 

[Sensuki]

If anyone wants to really know why he's so butthurt have a read of this: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68744-is-might-a-dump-stat-is-perception-the-dps-stat/page-3

Start on page 3, keep going for lots of juicy goodness.

Sensuki, you are aware that you have a problem, right?

Unemployment.

 

[Grunker]

2. Pledge the same amount to the nearest Aspergers-foundation, in honor of your actual target audience

hahaha, ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

 

[Frusciante]

Okay guys I've done a breakdown of all the area files in the game at the moment (and by this I mean that the resources.assets contains some black & white maps for these areas) There are 101 unique ones, and the final tally is supposed to be ~150ish - I have also listed any missing ones I can think of at the bottom of the file

********** WARNING WARNING SPOILERS ABOUT LOTS OF SHIT INCLUDING THEME OF EACH OD NUA LEVEL**********

Spoiler

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r2FlaheJSpZsjG9vuqNAnHZyWvDLe5Vo_RBQUhJW1EU/

Are you not afraid that you will not enjoy the game at all anymore? You've basically seen 66% of the environments now.

 

[Sensuki]

Call it a personal sacrifice.

 

[imweasel]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68843-official-appeal-to-refund-kickstarter-pledge/

1. Cancel my box-copy order of the game.
2. Pledge the same amount to the nearest Aspergers-foundation, in honor of your actual target audience: people who can be genuinely entertained by simply watching unrelated numbers with no meaning scroll down a list.
3. Post the receipt.

[...]

Here are links to several Aspergers charities,
www.asperger.asn.au/
www.aspergerfoundation.org.uk/
www.usautism.org/

This guy cracks me up.

 

[Infinitron]

Check out Zed's reply.

 

[bonescraper]

Fortunately, the final version of the game will have its own key. I'll be able to sell it on G2A for some refund.

 

[Grunker]

Check out Zed's reply.

i am personally a bigger fan of rk47's

 

[polo]

So much butthurt coming from norway.

 

[Grunker]

wait... what faggotry is this

still lots of potential butthurt left in that thread, ban gfted1 plz

 

[polo]

What kind of mod closes a thread with so much butthurt left undone.

 

[Infinitron]

What kind of mod closes a thread with so much butthurt left undone.

Gifted1, who is the most butthurt of them all.

 

[polo]

One massive butthurt to rule them all.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Check out Zed's reply.

i am personally a bigger fan of rk47's

link plz to both of the replies.

 

[Grunker]

it's a 2-page thread dude

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

And I am lazy. news at eleven.

 

[Sensuki]

There was an 18.3MB Hotfix today... wonder what that was for.

 

[Sensuki]

OMG Grunker

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68850-engagement-mechanics/#entry1518572

Have a look at those - disengagement attacks are broken even worse than NWN2 in the current patch

 

[Grunker]

uuuuuuuuuuuurgh, lol

 

[Bester]

This is all very confusing. At this point I don't even know what stats to increase for what classes.

I suppose 10 of all stats and the rest into Might? Is this true for all classes basically? This sucks.

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

This is all very confusing. At this point I don't even know what stats to increase for what classes.

I suppose 10 of all stats and the rest into Might? Is this true for all classes basically? This sucks.

That's exactly the point. There shouldn't be any attributes that a class "must" have (I.e. Strength for fighters, Int for mages, wisdom for priests, etc). In PoE, theorethically, you should be able to pump whatever attribute you want and then change your play-style to match. If you build a high-might fighter, give him a sword and let him get to work; build a high-con fighter let him tank to high heaven; if you build a high-(whatever ends up controlling durations) fighter, slap on some active abilities and go stupid, etc. The key is that more archetypes should theorethically be viable in PoE than in the IE games. I will argue that the system, as currently is, does not completely achieve its aims, but the aim is a valiant one that I fully support.

 

[Bester]

I'm not sure that is all true. I mean there are no "different styles", it's total bullshit as far as I could tell.

>If you build a high-might fighter, give him a sword and let him get to work;
Sure, that's a standard Fighter.

>build a high-con fighter let him tank to high heaven;
So you propose to build a high con fighter with all other stats being 10? You'll survive the fight a little longer, but will ultimately die.
And so we go back to the high-might and high-const fighter. There are no other fighters.

>if you build a high-(whatever ends up controlling durations) fighter, slap on some active abilities and go stupid
Nope, will be useless. I only remember Knockdown, but maybe a fighter does have some duration related abilities. But they either sucked, or wouldn't do much difference if they lasted for another second.

>etc.
There's just no "etc."

>The key is that more archetypes should theorethically be viable in PoE than in the IE games.
Why? I don't understand how a fighter could fight without strength. Show me a heavy weight MMA cage fighter who is smart or... perceptive...
And I don't see a mage with really strong spells just because he's physically strong. It makes no sense.

 

[Sensuki]

Durations used to be good on Fighters but they nerfed the stock Knock Down duration to 5 seconds and now 10 is 0, so if you max Resolve you'll get a whopping extra 2.5 seconds or whatever

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

>The key is that more archetypes should theorethically be viable in PoE than in the IE games.
Why? I don't understand how a fighter could fight without strength. Show me a heavy weight MMA cage fighter who is smart or... perceptive...

Your question is oddly specific: firstly not just any athlete, or even fighter (allowing therefore for boxers, Greco-roman wrestlers, single-discipline martial artists, etc.), or even just MMA fighters of any variant expect cage-fighters. Secondly, you leave out the dozen other weights and require specifically heavyweights. You're basically asking, in D&D terms, for me to give you an example of a high-strength fighter who doesn't have high strength. What the fuck?

I'm going to take up your questions partially by saying: "Ali vs. Foreman."