Fallout Project Arroyo - Fallout 2 total conversion in FO4 engine

[Space Satan]

Looks promising. Let's see how its going and if it will ever reach 1.0

https://twitter.com/ArroyoProject

 

[Fedora Master]

You can not fix Fallout.

 

[Late Bloomer]

This was already posted in the Fallout 4 thread

 

[laclongquan]

Arroyo or F2 remake is actually feasible with F4 engine and color themes, if only because F2 themes are much more colorful than F3 and FNV. F3 impress the need for cold blue urban ruins, while FNV stress the yellow sandy and some pink despair. But F2 can range from urban ruin The Den to futuristic urban Vault City/San Francisco, or just plain modern New Reno and Shady Sands. For variants, it also can do farming ranch Modoc, to tribal Arroyo to mining Broken Hill etc...

Of course, there's still the shiny chrome guns, but lets' hope they can figure out a general filter process to make them look rusty in near future.

Or the desparate lack of tribal costumes, but again, lets' hope for some ports from FNV and F3 costumes.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Fargus]

Skyblivion
Morroblivion
Skywind
F1 on gamebryo
F2 on gamebryo
F4NV

 

[SexExitium]

yeh kinda cool but is it legendary?

 

[Saldrone]

These attemps at making 3D FPS remakes to isometric turn based games are pretty antiquated to what they were originally designed

 

[Lemming42]

I wish someone would do one of these and have it so you explore the world in first person but when combat starts it zooms out to an isometric view for turn-based combat. I can see the value of walking around the Fallout world in first person perspective but it all goes to shit as soon as anything happens. Plus I'd just love to see badly-modded TB combat in the Gamebryo engine, it'd be a blast - softlocks as characters take their turns then just freeze without the turn track advancing, hit chances that just outright lie to the player, the game being incredibly picky about what constitutes "cover" so a cactus stops a rocket but a steel wall is shot through like paper. It'd be bliss.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Skyblivion
Morroblivion
Skywind
F1 on gamebryo
F2 on gamebryo
F4NV

You can make the pretty graphics all you want, but Fallout 4's character system is so stripped down, you're going to lose a Hell of a lot of the fine tuning of matching the difficulty of skills based tasks with it. This is one of the big reasons why Fallout 4 felt so cookie cutter compared to the earlier games, including Fallout 3. Instead of having a percentage range for your skills, you're basically stuck with their "perks" to check, of which there are only four levels. So, any "skill check" you might have is limited to 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100%. If you want a great example on how this screws up the feeling of the system, I believe there was an attempt to add a Speech skill in to the game. It might be fun at first, but you eventually see the man behind the curtain on this on just how limiting that is compared to how SPECIAL used to be.

 

[Jacov]

Tonally inappropriate «50s music track» in the trailer? Check.

 

[Gargaune]

You can make the pretty graphics all you want, but Fallout 4's character system is so stripped down, you're going to lose a Hell of a lot of the fine tuning of matching the difficulty of skills based tasks with it. This is one of the big reasons why Fallout 4 felt so cookie cutter compared to the earlier games, including Fallout 3. Instead of having a percentage range for your skills, you're basically stuck with their "perks" to check, of which there are only four levels. So, any "skill check" you might have is limited to 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100%.

 

[JarlFrank]

>have a great modding engine for what's a pretty solid-playing game
>can do any content you want with it
>remake a classic that's still perfectly playable

Why are modders like this

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I'll be damned. That's pretty impressive work right there. I stand corrected, then.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Okay, upon thinking about it a bit more, is that character system they have in that actually the character system or is it just an overlay for the Fallout 4 character system? What I mean is, when you go to pick a lock, mechanically, does the game look to the skills they've implimented or do those skills sit on top of the pre-existing Fallout 4 system?

The reason I ask this is because there were a few early attempts to mimick the character system from Fallout 3 and New Vegas in Fallout 4, but they were just a layer over the actual character system, and as such, you were still limited to the 0%/25%/50%/75%/100% thing. Your screen tells you that you have 33% in a skill, but since it sits on top of the Fallout 4 perk system, you just have one level of that perk, which is 25%. Any points between 25% and 49% will yield the same result until you hit 50%. In other words, it's like I originally said and the system itself it mostly cosmetic when it comes to the game itself.

I don't know either way, but I am curious about it.

 

[ADL]

Be thankful this is just a mod and not Bethesda's attempt to culturally erase the originals with a paid 'reimagining'. Say what you will about BGS but they haven't done that yet and they've given them away during anniversaries and included them in physical box sets.

Doesn't seem like they're trying to hide the originals or replace them in any way.

 

[Gargaune]

Okay, upon thinking about it a bit more, is that character system they have in that actually the character system or is it just an overlay for the Fallout 4 character system? What I mean is, when you go to pick a lock, mechanically, does the game look to the skills they've implimented or do those skills sit on top of the pre-existing Fallout 4 system?

As far as I'm aware, Fallout 4 (and Skyrim's) tiered skill thresholds are just a gameplay design and the underlying Gamebryo engine still represents and processes those variables in the full 0-100 range. I'm not an authority, though, so take it with a grain of salt. But the F4NV team seemed pretty sure of themselves when they were claiming they'd managed to re-implement most of FNV's mechanics, including the skills system and damage threshold. Weapon condition was a bigger challenge, but I think I recall they said they got that one too.

Mind you, that's F4NV (before the project went to shit), I dunno what Project Arroyo are up to.

 

[Kruyurk]

So much effort spent to create a big pile of nothing. They should instead try to emulate the mindset of the original authors and try to be original themselves. The best art is created by people able to channel their obsession/autism in a meaningful way.

 

[Fink]

Skyblivion
Morroblivion
Skywind
F1 on gamebryo
F2 on gamebryo
F4NV

can't wait for Fallout4field

 

[n0denz]

>in the fallout 4 engine
Not interested, and I don't have the patience to wait until the heat death of the universe for the team to finish it anyway.