Game News Rome II media blitz underway

[Brayko]

I don't really understand the anti-CA angst. Yes, of all the companies making realistic strategy games, Creative Assembly are the most "mass market-oriented".

But, as I've said before, if the Total War franchise represents the dumber part of your genre, then I'd say your genre is in damn good shape. Talking about CA the same way you talk about Bioware or Bethesda is overkill.

CA is more like Activision and Valve. Repackaging the same game every year for a decade without any advances.
Hey the formula sells as it is, why change anything?

Once they make the jump to consoles and then sacrifice a few key elements that made the games decent in exchange for streamlining then we can safely say that they are more like bio and beth, and Activision, and EA, and whatever other ignorant short-sighted big-ass games publisher out there looking to maximize their profits.

 

[Infinitron]

I don't really understand the anti-CA angst. Yes, of all the companies making realistic strategy games, Creative Assembly are the most "mass market-oriented".

But, as I've said before, if the Total War franchise represents the dumber part of your genre, then I'd say your genre is in damn good shape. Talking about CA the same way you talk about Bioware or Bethesda is overkill.

CA is more like Activision and Valve. Repackaging the same game every year for a decade without any advances.
Hey the formula sells as it is, why change anything?

Once they make the jump to consoles and then sacrifice a few key elements that made the games decent in exchange for streamlining then we can safely say that they are more like bio and beth, and Activision, and EA, and whatever other ignorant short-sighted big-ass games publisher out there looking to maximize their profits.

Hopefully whatever they make for the console ends up failing horribly because console gamers cannot into strategy.

 

[aris]

New engine for Rome 2! Hope that's it's not going to be as crap as the new engine that was introduces in empire, as they finally made it quite good (if not very good!) in shogun 2. I'm optimistic though!

 

[aris]

I don't really understand the anti-CA angst. Yes, of all the companies making realistic strategy games, Creative Assembly are the most "mass market-oriented".

But, as I've said before, if the Total War franchise represents the dumber part of your genre, then I'd say your genre is in damn good shape. Talking about CA the same way you talk about Bioware or Bethesda is overkill.

CA is more like Activision and Valve. Repackaging the same game every year for a decade without any advances.
Hey the formula sells as it is, why change anything?

Isn't that what the developers of ARMA do too? It's not inherently bad, if those changes that they make to an already good game, are meaningful and advances gameplay. They've (the developers of civilization) pretty much done this with the civilization series.

 

[MetalCraze]

I know you are pretty dumb but is it so hard to notice that I've said there are no advances of any kind in TW series?

Economics for kindergarten and rock-paper-scissor strategy were fun during first five reskins but can CA at least show something else but milking?

How Total War is better than Call of Duty or Counter-Strike in this regard? Same shit every fucking year.

Compare Paradox sequels - there are always leaps forward that warrant their existence.

 

[aris]

No advances? Only reskins? Nah, that's just wrong, and shows that you don't know what you are talking about. It's also pretty clear that you don't understand what CA are aiming for with their series, and what the appeal is among fans.

 

[ChristofferC]

Maybe you can explain what the appeal is that makes you want to pay for the same game 7 times?

 

[aris]

Because almost each one of them introduce interesting game mechanics on the realtime battlefield that are, above all, fun to use. And you are wrong if you think that I think that all outputs in the series are good. The total war series is, and has always been about the realtime battles; semi-realistic with focus on graphic fidelity to give a nice action movie like recreation of the excitement and punch of battle (leaving out the post traumatic stress disorder) in the vein of movies like The gladiator, and if you want it more realistic, then there are mods for that, like darth mod. The strategy, especially on the turn based map is, and was from the start, almost an afterthought: If you want deep, complex and focused implementations of that, you are better off with the Europa Universalis series, crusader king 2, or even civilization. Though strategy has been steadily inclining since the extremely barebone shogun:total war, still not great though, and everything he says about economics and rock-paper-scissor strategy is true.

 

[Brayko]

I'm with 'gaudaost' on this one. If you want grand strategy look elsewhere, if you want tactical real time battles with nice flash you go Total War. 'Shogun 2' was very much incline of these regards, especially after the travesty that was 'Empire'. Rome 2 does raise some red flags so far in the initial announcements but we have yet to know much anything about how they're taking the gameplay in it's entirety, just a few bizarre features and an awkward out of place video that we're apparently supposed to interpret as "hype".

 

[MetalCraze]

No advances? Only reskins? Nah, that's just wrong, and shows that you don't know what you are talking about. It's also pretty clear that you don't understand what CA are aiming for with their series, and what the appeal is among fans.

Graphics?

 

[aris]

That's a big part, yeah: Pretty much what I listed in my previous post.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I know you are pretty dumb but is it so hard to notice that I've said there are no advances of any kind in TW series?

Economics for kindergarten and rock-paper-scissor strategy were fun during first five reskins but can CA at least show something else but milking?

How Total War is better than Call of Duty or Counter-Strike in this regard? Same shit every fucking year.

Compare Paradox sequels - there are always leaps forward that warrant their existence.

they have zero competition, no one else even comes close. it'd be nice, but the rest of the strategy game developers need to get their shit together.

 

[Undead Phoenix]

Are they going to make half-decent BAI & CAI this time?


No? I thought so. Not even going to be worth the bandwidth to not remove from inventory.