RPGs: music or not

[Unkillable Cat]

This is magnificent, unfortunately I've heard bad things about the game. Is it worth a playtrough? This track got me interested in trying it out, but many awful games have good soundtracks so I better hear you out before I invest any time and potentially money on it.

I would say it's average. If you're used to RPGs from 20 years ago it's worth a try, but it'll never get amazing or awesome. As Luzur said it's most fun when you're starting out and exploring the land. The first game has a mouse-only interface, but the sequel(s) improve on that.

The Eschalon main theme is also a good piece of music, and it gets revisited in Book 2.

 

[Photokoi]

Very stupid, amateurish question, but how do I brofist??

Sorry for this comment unworthy of the venerable codex!

 

[Lemming42]

Very stupid, amateurish question, but how do I brofist??

Sorry for this comment unworthy of the venerable codex!

There should be an option to brofist next to "Reply" on the top right corner of posts, but there might be some weird conditions you have to meet before the option appears.

 

[Ranselknulf]

Requests for brofist privileges shall be submitted through site feedback in the form of a thread.

 

[Abelian]

Very stupid, amateurish question, but how do I brofist??

Sorry for this comment unworthy of the venerable codex!

You have to wait a year until you will be able to brofist. Alternatively, you can donate money to the Codex, but I'm don't know the required amount.

Also, don't make frivolous topics in the Site Feedback forum.

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There be dragons

 

[Ninjerk]

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[T. Reich]

For me, it completely depends on 3 factors:
1. Do I even like the in-game music? If I do, I might keep it on.
2. Is it context-sensitive? As in - if combat happens, does the music change? In some cases it can be an important gameplay feature (Deus Ex, for example), if so - I will be inclined to keep the music on.
3. However, I might fancy listening to something else entirely altogether; in this case I can totally ignore the above two considertations.

And then there are games without music, so I can do whatever I want. Like playing Dark Sun while listening to Deus Ex soundtrack, which I've done way too many times.

 

[Infinitron]

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Of course Oblivion has incredible music. It's an incredible game and dont anyone says it sucks. Sure, its very generic and babyish and dumbeddown, but wasnt ultima vii also like that in the day? Very detailed but generic and easy? When it comes to gameworlds, TES is an absolute monster. Awesome worlds, unique. I hate when people say Oblivion sucks , morrwind had better setting. Oblivion was based in Cyrodil. The center of Tamerial, inhabited by humans. Cant get more generic than that. But its generic done well.

 

[T. Reich]

At the time I was really surprised to find out that the guy who wrote Wiz8 mmusic also wrote the mmusic for Invader Zim.

 

[Ninjerk]

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Of course Oblivion has incredible music. It's an incredible game and dont anyone says it sucks. Sure, its very generic and babyish and dumbeddown, but wasnt ultima vii also like that in the day? Very detailed but generic and easy? When it comes to gameworlds, TES is an absolute monster. Awesome worlds, unique. I hate when people say Oblivion sucks , morrwind had better setting. Oblivion was based in Cyrodil. The center of Tamerial, inhabited by humans. Cant get more generic than that. But its generic done well.

 

[Abelian]

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Of course Oblivion has incredible music. It's an incredible game and dont anyone says it sucks. Sure, its very generic and babyish and dumbeddown, but wasnt ultima vii also like that in the day? Very detailed but generic and easy? When it comes to gameworlds, TES is an absolute monster. Awesome worlds, unique. I hate when people say Oblivion sucks , morrwind had better setting. Oblivion was based in Cyrodil. The center of Tamerial, inhabited by humans. Cant get more generic than that. But its generic done well.

Attention all newfags: When you go into the thread of a recently released game and ask "SO HEY GUIZ IS THIS GOOD?", you are just begging to be misled by shitposters. You have been warned.

Ahem.

 

[Infinitron]

I don't get it. Was somebody asking about a recently released game

 

[Drew]

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Confirmed as a way to get information.

 

[Abelian]

I don't get it. Was somebody asking about a recently released game

No, but I didn't want to put words in your mouth and edit the post. It was more the spirit of the post: keeping codexers in rein from trolling the newfag

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even if he deserves it.

 

[Photokoi]

I like these "fag" terms which I see tossed around here. And oblivion was not the best RPG I'll admit, but its a game I've enjoyed and invested many hours in. Never made any judgment.

And don't worry youwont scare me away

 

[Broseph]

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Of course Oblivion has incredible music. It's an incredible game and dont anyone says it sucks. Sure, its very generic and babyish and dumbeddown, but wasnt ultima vii also like that in the day? Very detailed but generic and easy? When it comes to gameworlds, TES is an absolute monster. Awesome worlds, unique. I hate when people say Oblivion sucks , morrwind had better setting. Oblivion was based in Cyrodil. The center of Tamerial, inhabited by humans. Cant get more generic than that. But its generic done well.

He's got a point, Ultima VII was pretty much a proto-Oblivion. And it's Todd Howard's favorite game.

 

[Infinitron]

Ultima VII was absolutely not generic and babyish, especially not for the time it was released. Taking a fantasy world and inflicting all kinds of modern social ills on it wasn't something you saw back then.

Today it would be considered a bit on the nose, but it was always well-written and earnest.

 

[Photokoi]

Ultima VII was absolutely not generic and babyish, especially not for the time it was released. Taking a fantasy world and inflicting all kinds of modern social ills on it wasn't something you saw back then.

Today it would be considered a bit on the nose, but it was done earnestly.

Sorry for that, what I meant to say is that compared to "big boy" rpgs like Wizardry and other traditional dungeon crawlers, Ultima was much more sandbox and fun. Don't get me wrong, Ultima VII is tons better than Oblivion, its really incredible, but its simple when it comes to traditional elements of an rpg, like combat and character creation, as well as party mechanics.

Its an incredible open world, way more interactive than oblivion of course, (or skyrim) but lacking in the traditional (I hate the word) aspects of an rpg.

Just to get sort of back on topic, great song from Ultima VII and all the Ultimas
RULE BRITANNIA!!!

 

[Gerrard]

Back in the day I used to load up some Amiga games just to listen to the music. Also, in The Settlers due to limitations in memory and sound channels you could only have music OR sound effects playing, and in this case the sound effects were much more immersive (not to say the music was bad, because it was great). This is a peculiar case though, who knows maybe having both would be even better.

If i could i'd have turned the music on Valkyrie Profile off.

Gay.

As someone's said, Oblivion had wonderful music (not so much Skyrim) and Morrowind of course, too.).

But it's all the same shit. You can also add Guild Wars and Neverwinter Nights to the mix (and probably some other crap Soule did) and you would not be able to tell where the song playing is from unless you already know it. Aside from things like main themes I can't actually recall any of the melodies of those soundtracks.

 

[Darth Roxor]

GW had some really good fucking music, though. Even a tad above most of Soule's other work.

 

[Gerrard]

To be honest I only listened to, I think, 2 soundtracks from it? Never actually played and it had like 50 expansions or something.
But in this case even the original opening theme was super generic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuglT9h2jlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsYZhNEsfEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph69o2lurEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrWlF0FpAm0
You could not tell those are from different games.

 

[SCO]

If i could i'd have turned the music on Valkyrie Profile off.

Gay.

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fuck you

 

[Abelian]

As someone's said, Oblivion had wonderful music (not so much Skyrim) and Morrowind of course, too.).

But it's all the same shit. You can also add Guild Wars and Neverwinter Nights to the mix (and probably some other crap Soule did) and you would not be able to tell where the song playing is from unless you already know it.

How would you be able to tell where a song is from without already knowing it?

 

[Gerrard]

See the example in my other post, most of those tracks are extremely unmemorable. I can maybe recognize them while listening (and even then it's vague, I could swear that "Eye of the Storm" is a track from Oblivion) , but not recall them from memory. I don't have such problems with other soundtracks.
So, for example, if you take a person who played Skyrim or Oblvion or whatever, play him those 4 songs and ask which ones are from Skyrim he probably won't be able to tell, or he'll say all

Basically, what I'm trying to say here is that Soule is a talentless hack.

 

[Abelian]

See the example in my other post, most of those tracks are extremely unmemorable. I can maybe recognize them while listening (and even then it's vague, I could swear that "Eye of the Storm" is a track from Oblivion) , but not recall them from memory.

I understood your point; just making a little humorous jab. I'm not a big fan of Hollywood orchestral soundtracks and prefer medieval/renaissance instrumentation for medieval/fantasy video games.

Btw, you might want to edit out the last sentence from your post before the angry mob sees it.