Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns Pre-Release Thread

[catfood]

Which edition of the PnP version is the best? I'm thinking about trying it.

2nd edition.

Yes, definitely 2nd Edition.

Any reasons why?

 

[Achilles]

I would like to know if they plan on using a top-down or isometric perspective before pledging. I've visited their site and the last game they created with the same engine was 2d top-down.

 

[Spectacle]

I doubt they will be directly using any version of the Shadowrun PnP rules. Those are all very complicated and require tons of GM judgement to work, and the combat system breaks down when you have powerful characters, which are BTW very easy to create by min/maxing character generation.

 

[potatojohn]

Can't believe the 'Dex is cumming all over a tablet game.

 

[Aeschylus]

Can't believe the 'Dex is cumming all over a tablet game.

A good pitch video and a good license have great power. Also, calling it either a tablet game or a pc game at this point is meaningless, since there are scant few details about the actual mechanics.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING THIS YEAR I GIVE MONEY FOR WASTELAND 2 TURN BASED RPG I GIVE MONEY FOR BANNER SAGA TURN BASED RPG I GIVE MONEY FOR LEGEND OF GRIMROCK BLOBBER AND NOW I GIVE MONEY FOR SHADOWRUN TURN BASED RPG
WHAT'S HAPPENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Of course there's the chance that this, Wasteland 2, and Banner Saga all end up glorified Flash games. And the chance that since they're getting the money a bit front-loaded with Kickstarter they might slack off and pull a Notch and add fucking pet dogs instead of ALL THE SHIT TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. But I want to believe, bros. In fact I just looked at my order history on Steam for 2012, and I've spent less money through Steam itself this year than I have on Kickstarter. Fuck.

 

[Ringhausen]

A good pitch video and a good license have great power. Also, calling it either a tablet game or a pc game at this point is meaningless, since there are scant few details about the actual mechanics.

He says "for tablets and pcs" like 3 times in the pitch video. In that order. Worrying to say the least.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

You would theoretically think he'd know what side his bread was buttered on when the copy of the game being passed out via the Kickstarter is the PC version.

Hopefully.

















oh god it's going to be cyberpunk farmville what have we done

 

[evdk]

Well, it's shadowrun, so I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!

The worst that can happen is that I've blown 15 bucks on newshit popamole decilne banalshitboring game. I've bought stuff from GOG that I've never touched so far for more than that, so I'll somehow survive. But I will be heartbroken.

 

[ghostdog]

What he talks about sounds like a combination of the SNES and the Genesis Shadowrun, which in my book is the PERFECT shadowrun game... IF they manage to pull it out.

The fact that he is the creator of the PnP game and that he has Stackpole on board is great. Although Stackpole seems also to be lead designer in Wasteland2, so I don't know how this will turn out, especially with all these 1-year development time-lines...

Also tablets and smartphones won't hinder the depth of the gameplay in any way IMO, neither will there be any major UI problems. The touch mechanic can be easily translated to mouse movement and vice-versa, it's not like consoles where you have a gamepad.

 

[JudasIscariot]

I don't know about you guys but I am not *too* worried about the game being popamole or lolflashgaem. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that the demand is for a proper Shadowrun RPG. Just looking at the comments on the Kickstarter page shows that The People (tn) want it to be turn-based and dripping with major incline.

Although the tablet bit does leave me wondering...

 

[Trash]

 

[Johannes]

I would like to know if they plan on using a top-down or isometric perspective before pledging. I've visited their site and the last game they created with the same engine was 2d top-down.

good thing you focus on the essentials

 

[Shannow]

"How I learned to stop worrying and to love the incline."

 

[Mortmal]

Good find trash, thats the evidence everything is possible on tablets, its powerful hardware now and can easily run any of the games we liked.Consoles too, just need developeprs willing to do it.

 

[Achilles]

I would like to know if they plan on using a top-down or isometric perspective before pledging. I've visited their site and the last game they created with the same engine was 2d top-down.

good thing you focus on the essentials

I fully acknowledge that it's stupid and you're absolutely right to call me out on this but I can't help it. I don't enjoy top-down games, it's kind of a deal-breaker for me.

 

[Gregz]

I’m not sure I get the tablet hate.

It's similar to console hate, the UI really does impact gameplay, usually by catering to the lowest common denominator (meaning negative impact to PC gamers). Certain game types aren't affected (angry birds plays equal on all platforms), other games are neutered or just plain unplayable depending on the platform (try playing CS:S on a tablet).

The cross platform UI issue is a relatively new problem that has yet to be resolved.

 

[Peter]

Like ghostdog said earlier though, UI for tablet ports of games with mouse controls is not a problem. Not nearly as problematic as making a console UI work well on PC or vice versa, in any case.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Cool beans.

 

[Jaesun]

Now don't fuck this up!

 

[Trash]

What irks me is how the first mention made after this phenomenal succes is adding more languages. Really, that's the first thing to spring to mind? Then however he goes and mentions deathmatches and my jaw really does drop. Compared to the wasteland guys who kept mentioning extra content being made possible by the extra funds or the banner people who were all happy to be able to get better sound and music this really is disappointing. We'll see.

 

[Alex]

Trash

Well, if by deathmatches he means competing teams for the same run (which would make a lot more sense in the Shadowrun universe), then this might actually be a nice feature! Then again I do tend to be too much of an optmist...

 

[Jaesun]

I loathe MP aspects of a game, because it could impact the game in a bad way. Keep that shit out and make a separate MP Shadowrun game.

 

[Renegen]

From the Kickstarter comments:

I have hopped on board! How could I not, I never really got into Shadowrun and the only aspect of it I did try was the FPS for Xbox 360. And I know that is nothing like the way it should be and that is why I am on board!

WTF. I just can't get my head around this type of thinking.

 

[JudasIscariot]

From the Kickstarter comments:

I have hopped on board! How could I not, I never really got into Shadowrun and the only aspect of it I did try was the FPS for Xbox 360. And I know that is nothing like the way it should be and that is why I am on board!

WTF. I just can't get my head around this type of thinking.

Who cares as long as they back the project