still having fun with skyrim

[Syril]

So the newest DLC for Skyrim is out, you can build your own house and adopt little dovahkins.

 

[DraQ]

I had the misfortune of just discovering "Hearthfire" on steam, currently #1 best seller

Skyrim popular, Sims popular, what else would you expect of Simsrim?

 

[ohWOW]

Fuck popularity, 10 top played games on steam is actualy a list of shame.

95,105 110,976 Dota 2
64,125 64,542 Team Fortress 2
55,613 55,613 Borderlands 2
44,902 50,971 Counter-Strike
36,025 39,035 Football Manager 2012
33,497 36,119 Counter-Strike: Source
31,381 34,396 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
30,069 30,186 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
26,149 26,149 Sid Meier's Civilization V
18,564 18,564 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

 

[IDtenT]

Football manager is good.

 

[Black Shogun]

Fuck popularity, 10 top played games on steam is actualy a list of shame.
31,381 34,396 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
26,149 26,149 Sid Meier's Civilization V

 

[DraQ]

No football manager is good.

Fix'd.

 

[wormix]

Skyrim popular, Sims popular, what else would you expect of Simsrim?

Guess I expected people who play it to be sick of it by now.

I mean what do you do after the first 100 hours? It's not like there's any point replaying the game.

 

[IDtenT]

No football manager is good.

Fix'd.

My favourite game type is manager, and since it's one of the best management titles out there I am biased.

 

[Zewp]

Skyrim popular, Sims popular, what else would you expect of Simsrim?

Guess I expected people who play it to be sick of it by now.

I mean what do you do after the first 100 hours? It's not like there's any point replaying the game.

Download all the shitty anime and nude mods from Tesnexus and then fap away.

 

[ohWOW]

I did EVERYTHING in Skyrim with ONE character that went full god in everything. I was the champion of all daedra lords, guildmaster of all shit, general of the legion (and the murderer of the emperor, plots make no fucking sense and there's 0 consequence in anything we do), craftmaster of all iron daggers, bro of all cities, owner of every avaible house and married to a lizard chick (who apparently is just a cash cow due to some shop she owned). Took me 94 hours. Mostly because I liked to plunder dwemer ruins - they're pretty big.

The worst part of it, is that I didn't exploited anything, it all just "happened" involuntarily.

 

[DalekFlay]

I did EVERYTHING in Skyrim with ONE character that went full god in everything. I was the champion of all daedra lords, guildmaster of all shit, general of the legion (and the murderer of the emperor, plots make no fucking sense and there's 0 consequence in anything we do), craftmaster of all iron daggers, bro of all cities, owner of every avaible house and married to a lizard chick (who apparently is just a cash cow due to some shop she owned). Took me 94 hours. Mostly because I liked to plunder dwemer ruins - they're pretty big.

The worst part of it, is that I didn't exploited anything, it all just "happened" involuntarily.

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want but they also allow you to roleplay. It's pretty much up to you. I had one melee dude do the main quest, companions and stormcloaks while a thief chick did the dark brotherhood, thieve's guild, daedric quests and random shit.

I know a lot of people are exploiters by nature and do everything they can, expecting the game to stop them, but not everyone is like that and Bethesda games are certainly not made with limiting you in mind.

 

[Carrion]

Football manager is good.

FM2012 was the best game of 2011. FM2013 is going to be the best game of 2012.

 

[ohWOW]

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want

No. Morrowind as the first proof.

 

[Zewp]

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want

No. Morrowind as the first proof.

Was going to say this.

 

[DalekFlay]

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want

No. Morrowind as the first proof.

Was going to say this.

You could be a master of everything in Morrowind and do almost everything easily. There was some exclusions like picking one house, but it wasn't a huge deal in a game with 1,000,000 fucking quests. Also, it's an old game and I was speaking in the present.

 

[ohWOW]

Not without abusing broken mechanics, a shitton of grind and you actually couldn't join all factions and reach the top.

In Skyrim everything is being shoveled down your throat with force.

 

[DraQ]

I did EVERYTHING in Skyrim with ONE character

You weren't a Stormcloak, and you weren't the guy who fuxxed the Dark Brotherhood instead of joining.

The worst part of it, is that I didn't exploited anything, it all just "happened" involuntarily.

Yes, this is a problem with Skyrim. It drags you into questlines.

I know a lot of people are exploiters by nature and do everything they can, expecting the game to stop them, but not everyone is like that and Bethesda games are certainly not made with limiting you in mind.

Actually, TES games would be much better with some restrictions and more content exclusion apart from simply having 2-3 mutually exclusive factions.

At least in Morrowind you had skill requirements, though quest conflicts were mostly avoidable already.

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want

No. Morrowind as the first proof.

It has Great Houses. Skyrim has picking side in the civil war. It has fuxxing or helping the TG as part of FG questline. Skyrim allows you to fuck the DB or do quests for it. It has option to say "fuck you" to Mehrunes Dagon - Skyrim has this as well.

Of course in Morrowind writing is superior, world is superior, mechanics is richer and so on, but it isn't that different. Apart from mechanics Skyrim is much closer to Morrowind than either of them is to oblivious.

 

[Bruma Hobo]

Bethesda games allow you to do everything with one character if you want but they also allow you to roleplay. It's pretty much up to you. I had one melee dude do the main quest, companions and stormcloaks while a thief chick did the dark brotherhood, thieve's guild, daedric quests and random shit.

I know a lot of people are exploiters by nature and do everything they can, expecting the game to stop them, but not everyone is like that and Bethesda games are certainly not made with limiting you in mind.

You obviously don't need stats, challenges and consequences because that kind of stuff limits your "role-playing possibilities"... Well, modern Bethesda is clearly making games for your kind. Hell, you don't even need video games to play make-believe! You lucky bastard.

 

[ohWOW]

You weren't a Stormcloak, and you weren't the guy who fuxxed the Dark Brotherhood instead of joining.

Quest line is exactly the same (liberate cities and kill the enemy boss).

 

[DalekFlay]

You obviously don't need stats, challenges and consequences because that kind of stuff limits your "role-playing possibilities"... Well, modern Bethesda is clearly making games for your kind. Hell, you don't even need video games to play make-believe! You lucky bastard.

You didn't read or understand what I said. Nothing limits you in the game from doing everything, but if you WANT to roleplay a character type (which I do) then you can.

 

[visions]

FM2012 was the best game of 2011. FM2013 is going to be the best game of 2012.

What's the best football manager game, do they keep inclining with time? And which is better, Championship Manager or Football Manager? I remember I had a demo of one of these (CM I think) from a PC Gamer disc in the first half of 2000's that I quite enjoyed, been thinking to try the genre again.

 

[DraQ]

Nothing limits you in the game from doing everything

Which is *THE* problem here.

 

[DalekFlay]

Nothing limits you in the game from doing everything

Which is *THE* problem here.

Not sure what you're asking exactly but I have little problem with how easy it is to do everything with one character because I am perfectly capable of self-restriction. I don't make daggers constantly at level one to max smithing because I don't want to break the game. I don't join the thieve's guild with a massive barbarian because I roleplay my character. I know a lot of people are not like this though and need the game-enforced restriction to prevent them from going buck-fucking-wild.

 

[racofer]

Nothing limits you in the game from doing everything

Which is *THE* problem here.

Not sure what you're asking exactly but I have little problem with how easy it is to do everything with one character because I am perfectly capable of self-restriction. I don't make daggers constantly at level one to max smithing because I don't want to break the game. I don't join the thieve's guild with a massive barbarian because I roleplay my character. I know a lot of people are not like this though and need the game-enforced restriction to prevent them from going buck-fucking-wild.

 

[Bruma Hobo]

You obviously don't need stats, challenges and consequences because that kind of stuff limits your "role-playing possibilities"... Well, modern Bethesda is clearly making games for your kind. Hell, you don't even need video games to play make-believe! You lucky bastard.

You didn't read or understand what I said. Nothing limits you in the game from doing everything, but if you WANT to roleplay a character type (which I do) then you can.

I, on the other hand, play role-playing games because i like to make decisions on a game-world while considering the attributes (advantages and limitations) of my character/party. Yeah, that would be my own definition of "roleplaying".

In my opinion, without limitations there are no role-playing games, just LARP simulators. Game rules for example are the limitations that separate role-playing games from make-believe and LARP. Content limitations are an integral part of the mythical C&C. And of course, without an HP limit you would be "roleplaying" a god. Have fun pretending to be a puny adventurer in TES 6.