Torment The Battle of 2024 AD: Bloodines 2 vs. Avowed.

[Jenkem]

The two most anticipated RPGs of the year are going head-to-head. Which one do you think will be better? Most everyone here will probably play both day 1 (if not earlier...) Place your bets!

Bloodlines 2:

Fight your way through a modern-day Seattle on the brink of an open war as an elder Vampire. Meet the power-players, ally yourself and decide who will rule and what the city will become.

A three-front siege on Seattle, a power vacuum in the vampire court and an awakened elder at odds with the voice in their head, realized by BAFTA award winning studio, The Chinese Room.

Explore visceral, immersive combat rewarding entirely different playstyles and approaches based on your choice of vampire clan. Will you wade into the fray with supernatural fists, harangue from afar or rebalance your odds by thinning the herd like the apex predator you are? Clan choice supports these playstyles and more.

AVOWED:

"We at Obsidian Entertainment know players have been anticipating an updated look at Avowed and we’re excited to show off what we’ve been working on with a first-ever gameplay trailer today at Xbox Games Showcase 2023. Expanding the universe that we created for the original Pillars of Eternity games, Avowed brings a new perspective, a new way to fight, and a new land to explore in the world of Eora. The Pillars games are near and dear to us and we can’t wait to share Avowed with everyone next year. "

 

[Ryzer]

You should rename the poll to "Which game will be worse?".

 

[Gargaune]

 

[Jenkem]

You should rename the poll to "Which game will be worse?".

asking which will be better is the more difficult question.

 

[Roguey]

Writing - Both are terrible but Avowed has the edge for not having a bitch in your ear stating the obvious all the time.

Art - Avowed is the winner here, Bloodlines 2 looks incredibly cheap.

Role-playing - While diminished compared to previous Obs titles, Avowed claims there will be loads of choices and consequences. That Bloodlines 2 mission looked very railroaded with Bioware-flavor choices.

Systems - People made fun of Obsidian for going on on about a basic feature like load-outs, but at least they have equipment. Bloodlines 2 also appears to have gutted VtM's character system. Beating the hell out of people looks more entertaining in Bloodlines 2 than Avowed, but that's the only advantage it has.

Content shown so far - Xaurip camp was pretty by-the-numbers, but it looked less obnoxious than "beat these ghouls then beat these mannequins then find and destroy a bunch of record players all on the same map."

Things to keep in mind: Avowed has a core team of 100, Bloodlines 2 has a core team of maybe 50-70? (TCR has about 100 employees total and they're working on two games, but one is a walking sim so I don't know how many are on it). Despite the talent drain, Obsidian has a lot of established pipelines and this isn't their first Unreal Engine RPG. The Chinese Room is a Ship of Theseus with a bunch of people who have never worked together before working in a genre most of them haven't worked on before.

Since they're both scheduled for Fall 2024, I have a lot of confidence Avowed is going to utterly cream Bloodlines 2 even if it ends up underperforming as well.

 

[Jenkem]

didn't they say the mission shown in bloodlines 2 was very early on in the game, like essentially one of the starter areas? bloodlines 2 makes the same claims that avowed does, and avowed has shown just as much in terms of "bioware-flavor choices" bloodlines 2 has classes though, while avowed is clearly advertised as being classless

 

[Cheesedragon117]

 

[Roguey]

didn't they say the mission shown in bloodlines 2 was very early on in the game, like essentially one of the starter areas?

In the age of "the first act should have the strongest, most polished content" that doesn't bode well.

bloodlines 2 makes the same claims that avowed does, and avowed has shown just as much in terms of "bioware-flavor choices"

In Avowed you could choose to give that guy the tags or call him a coward (leading to a fight?). In Bloodlines 2, all roads lead to that nosferatu blowing up.

 

[Cryomancer]

Which one will be easier to mod?

Honestly, IF Avowed implements cool cipher-esque abilities, it can be fun to troll NPC's. I can't see any possibility of fun in Vtmb2. Playing as an androgynous elder vampire with strange voices in his head called "phyre", having no muscle mass despite being a brujah in middle of modern day Seattle seems quite boring.

 

[Skinwalker]

They're both shit, but Blyadlines 2 Dumpsterphyre looks considerably worse than Awoked. In fact, and I say this without exaggeration, Dumpsterphyre might be the worst game I've ever had the misfortune of laying my eyes upon.

 

[lvl 2 Blue Slime]

Two FPS's with RPG elements duking it out for best """""RPG""""", that's grim.

 

[Skinwalker]

with RPG elements

 

[Tyranicon]

They're both in the running for biggest "RPG" dumpster fire of the year.

 

[SharkClub]

Avowed is probably going to be shit but you'd probably have to be completely delusional to think chink room VTMB2 is going to somehow be better than it after the gameplay reveal. In any case it's like picking if you want to eat someone's vomit or shit.

 

[Skinwalker]

In any case it's like picking if you want to eat someone's vomit or shit.

Hm, vomit and shit are both equally disgusting, so this doesn't really apply here.

In this case, it would be like picking between drinking piss (Awoked) or drinking cum (VTM: Dumpsterphyre).

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

As I've said avowed will have offensive writing but the rest will be bearable. Can't day the same about vtmb2

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

The two most anticipated RPGs of the year are going head-to-head.

Monocled Codexers have been waiting more than a decade for the release of Codex GotY 2024, Dragon's Dogma II.

 

[Jenkem]

The two most anticipated RPGs of the year are going head-to-head.

Monocled Codexers have been waiting more than a decade for the release of Codex GotY 2024, Dragon's Dogma II.

that's a JRPG, so it doesn't count

 

[Butter]

These are my choices, huh?

 

[Lord_Potato]

Avowed will have character creation (although with limited options like 2 races only), it seems like Bloodlines 2 will force you to play as a hermaphrodite Phyre, with only choice regarding xir's clan.

Also, 'outfits' instead of a normal inventory, lol.

It may very well be a cripple fight, but it seems to me those cripples aren't evenly matched.

 

[Viata]

Easiest way of finding the users with the worse taste in this forum. Both games look like shit. There is literally no reason to play either going by the trailers, yet someone (or a lot of people) here will buy it. And then they will shitpost on SJW thread how game is in decline, how developers don't know how to make game. Yet they go on to buy shit games.

 

[Hellraiser]

The outer worlds in a fantasy dressing vs bland fps/action game with rpg elements and fruitcake vampire dressing?

I say we nuke the site from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.

 

[Serus]

No Kingcomrade, no poll. Where's the

Spoiler

Yes, i know Tevye is a Jew, perhaps Infinitron should write those posts.

 

[Readher]

The two most anticipated RPGs of the year are going head-to-head.

Monocled Codexers have been waiting more than a decade for the release of Codex GotY 2024, Dragon's Dogma II.

More like Dragon's Dogshit II.

 

[Jenkem]

No Kingcomrade, no poll. Where's the

Spoiler

Yes, i know Tevye is a Jew, perhaps Infinitron should write those posts.

each answer is already kingcomrade