Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this game.

[Argosy]

First, graphics. You can say that graphics are not as important as gameplay all you want, but unless graphics have zero importance to a game, a game with good graphics and good gameplay is better than a game with bad graphics and good gameplay. And we all know that AoD looks like ass.

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.


Third, roleplaying. Fallout 3 has more limited choices in terms of quests, motivations, and the like that determine the character. In AoD, you are(supposedly) more free to act in whichever way suits your particular style. And last time I checked, roleplaying is about playing a role.

In Fallout 3, you're playing the role of a guy who wants to search for his father and has a penchant for violence over diplomacy. In AoD, you're a guy who does whatever the hell he wants. What kind of role is that? An over-broad one. It's supposed to be roleplaying, people, not rolemaking.

So to summarize, Fallout 3 has better graphics and gameplay. All this game has is a guy whose initials remind people of syphilis.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

ummmmm.....

k

 

[sportforredneck]

lawl this guy is so good at satire it is teh lol i want him to be my firend

 

[Longshanks]

Fail - AoD's camera is rotatable and zoomable, so there are only two reasons why Fallout 3 will be better than AoD .

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.

:D

Epic win.

 

[Alfgart]

Hey, this was funny

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

No it was to obvious, 2/10

 

[jagged-jimmy]

Lack of 1337speach, too much math involved.

 

[Hory]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.

These are weak choices because they can be immediately reversed. I'm sure AoD has better consequences. Find another point.

 

[Vault Dweller]

http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/in ... opic=471.0

It looks interesting, but it also looks..very old. I don't mind old games, but I think they took "like the old days" too far. Turn based was neat in Disciples II, but in games like Fallout I really hated it.

Turn-based is a turn-off for me. Might pick it up when it hits the bargin bin.

Okay, I'm sick of being optimistic and understanding: for a game that isn't even released yet, those graphics are something you'd see 3 to 5 years ago. yuck.gif

When I saw the first screen shot, I was like, "What, is this Neverwinter Nights?"

Oh, it is also isometric. Not that this is bad, but it is a little restrictive not having a free-form camera and seeing through the roofs of buildings.

It doesn't look all that different from Fallout's, which truth be told, I didn't regard as anything exciting.

I stopped reading at turn based. I don't like turn based RPG's at all (unless they do it like KOTOR)...

I think out of spite for the developers, I'm not picking this up.

do we actually have to pay for this or is it a freebe

If its not free i'm not buying it

I'm not getting it because the setting looks totally unappealing and the UI looks complicating.

That said, after decades of RPGs that just try to emulate the pen and paper systems that they'll never be able to approach the appeal of, I have no interest in a game that uses the fact that it's trying to do just that as one of its main selling points. I'm just sick of that kind of game, and if I really wanted to play one then I'd rather have a ruleset played with friends and a human DM who drives the plot and gameplay than a generic clone of older games that depends on its writing more than anything else to appeal to people, has a lot of false choices that mostly just involve overly verbose ways of saying "[good guy response to quest]/[bad guy response to quest]/[refusal to accept quest]" with the long-term results for each being basically the same, and that plays like something that I've already been playing over the past decade.

Although apparently even though it has over 100 quests it only has 22 locations, which means I'd prolly get bored of having to go to the same place more then once. And I'd prefer it to have magic in it.

meh, looks too much like runescape, and runescape's free so why bother?

Turned based games are a plague on our society. How fun it must be to take turns hitting each other.

Slow, painful combat. Even NWN's turn-based wasn't quite that painful.

 

[Kingston]

"Slow, painful combat. Even NWN's turn-based wasn't quite that painful."

Hahah. Oh dear.

If its not free I'm not buying it.

 

[DraQ]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.

:D

Epic win.

 

[inwoker]

not bad but tooooooooooooooooooooo obvious

 

[Truth]

:enilceD:

 

[Rhett Butler]

That said, after decades of RPGs that just try to emulate the pen and paper systems that they'll never be able to approach the appeal of, I have no interest in a game that uses the fact that it's trying to do just that as one of its main selling points. I'm just sick of that kind of game, and if I really wanted to play one then I'd rather have a ruleset played with friends and a human DM who drives the plot and gameplay than a generic clone of older games that depends on its writing more than anything else to appeal to people, has a lot of false choices that mostly just involve overly verbose ways of saying "[good guy response to quest]/[bad guy response to quest]/[refusal to accept quest]" with the long-term results for each being basically the same, and that plays like something that I've already been playing over the past decade.

This one doesn't really deserve to be with the rest of them, it's not the same level of stupidity. The point about CRPGs being inferior to PnP RPGs is just personal preference, and who can blame the guy for disbelieving you about having actual C&C? If I hadn't been following the game and didn't know who you are I would start by assuming you were full of it too.

 

[Konjad]

Argosy isn't real, he cannot be.

 

[Ion Flux]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.

Lulziness

 

[inwoker]

Apathy is death.

 

[The Crying Orc]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Third, roleplaying. Fallout 3 has more limited choices in terms of quests, motivations, and the like that determine the character. In AoD, you are(supposedly) more free to act in whichever way suits your particular style. And last time I checked, roleplaying is about playing a role.

In Fallout 3, you're playing the role of a guy who wants to search for his father and has a penchant for violence over diplomacy. In AoD, you're a guy who does whatever the hell he wants. What kind of role is that? An over-broad one. It's supposed to be roleplaying, people, not rolemaking.

This man is a genius. Kodexers rejoice, the RPG Messiah has arrived.

09/08/08

 

[bozia2012]

http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php?topic=471.0

One may think it's just some uninspired trolls, but then you click-the-link and everything is clear. TESF - the most stupid stupid people.

 

[Unradscorpion]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

I think we had lulzier posts than this, it has some good lines, but Codex has seen better.

 

[GeneralSamov]

:enilceD:

 

[Mareus]

I was sure the guy was just joking. I still have a hard time believing he is serious about all the crap he wrote, but then again this level of retardation maybe broke my sarcas-o-meter.

I mean, this is a whole new level of retardation to which I am not used.
:shrugs:

 

[Serious_Business]

Re: Three Reasons that Fallout 3 will be better than this ga

Second, choice and consequence. In Fallout 3, at any one point one has more spatial choices as the game operates in five axes(rotation of view along the x-plane and y-plane, movement along x,y, and z planes) compared to the much more limited spatial movement of AoD. And of course there are consequences to this. If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.

:D

Epic win.

Epic internet meme no, where is the actual guy that thinks FO3 is better than AoD, this is just boring

 

[St. Toxic]

If you move, the consequence is that you're standing somewhere else.