Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Doctor Sbaitso]

The Last Days of Archopalasia was pretty predictable with its twists, but very entertaining nonetheless. I appreciate Evans's sense of humor, especially regarding himself.

Tony Evans is a jack-of-all-trades game designer, writer and producer. He has developed more RPG's than any sane person should. A partial list of his credits includes Knights of the Old Republic 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Dragon Age 2 (hey that's a lot of 2's). He's also very proud to have worked on Mask of the Betrayer, the last RPG that was anything at all like Torment. Oh, and it's totally Tony's fault that Storm of Zehir was so awesome (or awful, depending on who you talk to).

So far the Torment novellas are 4/4 with me. Will Lafferty clinch or break the winning streak?????????????

(I checked, and it's the shortest of all of them, so I'll have the answer soon enough)

Do they give any lore or insight into setting? Wondering if they are ideally read before playing.

 

[Roguey]

Do they give any lore or insight into setting? Wondering if they are ideally read before playing.

Indigo involves M'ra Jolios, Gold specifically involves a character who will appear in ToN and the ruins of Ossiphagan, Silver involves Sagus Cliffs and the Bloom.

 

[Rivmusique]

The Four Lessons of the Great Chilla as Told and Chronicled by the Manipulative Speck is definitely the weakest of the five

No kidding. I liked the urchin life stuff, interacting with the lagoon monster, talking to The Bloom and the little cut-ins from the narrator. But some major parts of this were terrible. It says the protagonist always wanted to be noteworthy, but it seems she's never made any moves towards that before the start of the story and then suddenly she's super keen for a ridiculously dangerous mission. Antagonists clumsily spout their motivations so they're crystal clear for the reader. And the main character feels like a very lazy/shallow interpretation of Silver from https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera/posts/653368 .

I liked Blue a lot, probably my favourite of them all. But it's been awhile since I've read the others, I recall liking Gold but I can barely remember what happened now. I'd actually forgotten what each colour represented when reading it and figured from the story that it must have been love/compassion/selflessness or something. Still works though.

 

[Roguey]

Antagonists clumsily spout their motivations so they're crystal clear for the reader.

I am somewhat impressed that she didn't make it utterly explicit that

Spoiler

part of her Faustian bargain with The Bloom involved the eventual sacrifice of herself and her brother, thus fulfilling their ghost-mother's prophecy

and making the Mary Sue-ism a bit more tolerable.

 

[Infinitron]

The Last Days of Archopalasia was pretty predictable with its twists, but very entertaining nonetheless. I appreciate Evans's sense of humor, especially regarding himself.

Read this today. Somebody liked the movie Zardoz!

Very nice, if a bit overlong, but why didn't he use a clone at the end

 

[Roguey]

Very nice, if a bit overlong, but why didn't he use a clone at the end

I don't believe it was possible for the clones to fully form without the second part of the process. It's not like there were two otherguys running around.

 

[Infinitron]

Very nice, if a bit overlong, but why didn't he use a clone at the end

I don't believe it was possible for the clones to fully form without the second part of the process. It's not like there were two otherguys running around.

Maybe you missed the part where they killed his clone (by activating the second part of the process alone). I assumed it may have woken up if they hadn't.

 

[Roguey]

Maybe you missed the part where they killed his clone (by activating the second part of the process alone). I assumed it may have woken up if they hadn't.

Consider: why did the newer, healthier version not wake up either before the old one or at the same time? I assumed it was just a vegetable.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Sykar]

Setting is only trash cause we should have gotten Book of the new sun but instead we are getting sjws wet dream version of far future earth.

Care to elaborate? I am already wary of the game but this would make me wait until it's 90% off, or never buy/pirate.

 

[Prime Junta]

Care to elaborate? I am already wary of the game but this would make me wait until it's 90% off, or never buy/pirate.

The setting is kind of shit (except for the Bloom which is kind of cool). Read all about it here.

(Other than that, the writing in the beta is not bad though.)

 

[nikolokolus]

Care to elaborate? I am already wary of the game but this would make me wait until it's 90% off, or never buy/pirate.

The setting is kind of shit (except for the Bloom which is kind of cool). Read all about it here.

(Other than that, the writing in the beta is not bad though.)

You can't out-vance Jack Vance. Accept no substitutes.

 

[hajro]

Yeah, if they were going for psychedelic shit they should have read Moorcocks Dancers at the end of time, if they were going for the pure DyingEarth aesthetic Book of the new sun is the bible.

 

[Lady_Error]

Care to elaborate? I am already wary of the game but this would make me wait until it's 90% off, or never buy/pirate.

The setting is kind of shit (except for the Bloom which is kind of cool). Read all about it here.

(Other than that, the writing in the beta is not bad though.)

You can't out-vance Jack Vance. Accept no substitutes.

Didn't like the Dying Earth as a book, but his Demon Princes series is among my all-time favorites.

 

[nikolokolus]

Care to elaborate? I am already wary of the game but this would make me wait until it's 90% off, or never buy/pirate.

The setting is kind of shit (except for the Bloom which is kind of cool). Read all about it here.

(Other than that, the writing in the beta is not bad though.)

You can't out-vance Jack Vance. Accept no substitutes.

Didn't like the Dying Earth as a book, but his Demon Princes series is among my all-time favorites.

The Dying Earth is uneven because it's spread out over so many decades, but Cugel's Saga and Rhialto the Marvellous are pretty good yarns. Loved the Demon Princes and Lyonesse is my personal fave.

 

[HoboForEternity]

they raised the price from 299,000 IDR to 499,000 IDR.

lmao fuck them piratebay it is

 

[Prime Junta]

Cugel's Saga and Rhialto the Marvellous are pretty good yarns

I was disappointed when I finally got around to reading them last summer. Expected better given their status in the canon.

 

[anus_pounder]

they raised the price from 299,000 IDR to 499,000 IDR.

lmao fuck them piratebay it is

Indonesian Rupiah?

 

[HoboForEternity]

Yes

 

[ArchAngel]

So will this console game get an update to backer beta before release on Ps4 and Xbone?

 

[Infinitron]

See the last Kickstarter update (yes)

 

[ArchAngel]

OK, tnx sweetheart.

 

[nikolokolus]

Cugel's Saga and Rhialto the Marvellous are pretty good yarns

I was disappointed when I finally got around to reading them last summer. Expected better given their status in the canon.

I guess it all depends on whether or not you like picaresque stories. For me Cugel's Saga is sort of like the fantasy version of Candide. I suppose either you like that kind of thing or you don't.

 

[Florian Gheorghe]

Will it surprise anyone if TTON will be shorter then Tyranny ?

 

[Fry]

Depends on play style. Even combat as easy as Tyranny's takes time, and TTON will have a lot fewer fights. Torment will have a lot more to read, but may clock in shorter than the average Tyranny play-though if you blow through the text.