Why do these prominent Obsidian devs love Bethesda's garbage?

[GrapeJam]

Well, to be fair, from an RPG perspective Fallout 4 is complete shit, from a "game package" perspective Fallout 4 is pretty decent. And Fallout 4 engine's a big leap forward from earlier Bethesda engine in term of animation.

 

[Irenaeus II]

From a game package perspective Fallout 3 is complete shit.

 

[GrapeJam]

Yeah Fallout 3's complete shit all round, but we're talking about Fallout 4 aren't we?

 

[Irenaeus II]

Same shit.

 

[GrapeJam]

Well, it's like your opinion man. I found Fallout 4 enjoyable as an open world shooter/Stalker-ish game(minus the horror aspects).
























I guess the fact that I pirated Fallout 4 instead of actually buying it also helped.....

 

[an Administrator]

I guess the fact that I pirated Fallout 4

It doesn't worth the amount of bandwidth and time for pirating it.

 

[Tigranes]

I guess the fact that I pirated Fallout 4

Makes you a fucking decline

 

[Excidium II]

At least he didn't back PoE on kikestarter.

 

[Tigranes]

I will gladly whore out my arse to hire if it means my brain doesn't suddenly think Fallout 4 is worth playing

 

[LizardWizard]

Well, to be fair, from an RPG perspective Fallout 4 is complete shit, from a "game package" perspective Fallout 4 is pretty decent. And Fallout 4 engine's a big leap forward from earlier Bethesda engine in term of animation.

GAF poster detected

 

[Sannom]

Well, it's like your opinion man. I found Fallout 4 enjoyable as an open world shooter/Stalker-ish game(minus the horror aspects).

Don't say that to Stalker fans. They will probably tear your throat out and then piss on your corpse before setting it on fire.

 

[Irenaeus II]

At least he didn't back PoE on kikestarter.

PoE is a great game, what you talking about

 

[racofer]

Codexers buying Bethesda shit is similar to the west donating money to ISIS.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Codexers buying Bethesda shit is similar to the west donating money to ISIS.

Business as usual then, considering the ((west)) funded ISIS from the start. I like that in this analogy Obsidian is Based Assad.

 

[DalekFlay]

When did I say they stop working? I said about another dev working in a series you love and it turns out to be a shit game. Mostly because they try to imitate crpgs that are selling well(like Skyrim/FO4) because "hey, people are buying that game, let's do something like that since people enjoys it".

You boycotting them doesn't mean they suddenly fall out of favor with 20 million consumers. Them not being as good as Fallout 2 or Morrowind doesn't mean they are all 1 out of 10 travesties of nature not worth touching with a plague-riddled leprosy hand. They are what they are, explorefag action games, and tons of people get something out of that. They're not going away.

I find it especially dramatic to speak of boycotts in a time where digital distribution and crowd-funding have opened the door to a classic RPG resurgence. We can have our prime rib and our hamburger all at once.

 

[Viata]

Does not buying something I don't want from someone I never bought a thing means I'm boycotting them? I'm just talking about how buying shit crpg is helping more shit crpg being made.
My point is not even about this, is how a person can't just post here how Underrail was shit as fuck while he's buying and playing Bethesda/Bioware's new crpg.

 

[Excidium II]

I'm just talking about how buying shit crpg is helping more shit crpg being made.

That's like saying your vote makes a difference!!! P. imbecile mindset.

My point is not even about this, is how a person can't just post here how Underrail was shit as fuck while he's buying and playing Bethesda/Bioware's new crpg.

I'm p. sure they can.

 

[Irenaeus II]

I'm boycotting Bethesda/Bioware and they can suck my dick.

 

[Roguey]

Those 15,000 accounts on the Codex truly make a difference.

That's not even enough for a non-garage dev to break even.

 

[Irenaeus II]

My account alone is worth one hundred thousand popamolers.

 

[an Administrator]

Looks like its time to start #BoycottBethesda

 

[DalekFlay]

Does not buying something I don't want from someone I never bought a thing means I'm boycotting them? I'm just talking about how buying shit crpg is helping more shit crpg being made.
My point is not even about this, is how a person can't just post here how Underrail was shit as fuck while he's buying and playing Bethesda/Bioware's new crpg.

Well to keep my analogy going, sometimes you want prime rib and sometimes you want hamburger. You can have an amazing hamburger and a crappy prime rib. They're completely different things, really. Fallout New Vegas (and Witcher 3 I hear) can be great hamburgers without implying I have lost my taste for prime rib.

 

[Hugh Vagoth]

Because in the games industry you have to commit to sucking each others dick and bending over at every opportunity unless you want publishers to stop talking to you.

 

[Jools]

Pretty much this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development
You have to be aware of the state of the art if you want to make a product with commercial aspirations. When devs say they like stuff like Skyrim or Borderlands, hey aren't really saying they like that game in particular (even if they do as players), they are partly seeing the potential for more complex products. Kind of what happened with FO3 and New Vegas.

This makes sense, but still I can't figure out what spawned all those poor design choices in PoE...

 

[racofer]

Because in the games industry you have to commit to sucking each others dick and bending over at every opportunity unless you want publishers to stop talking to you.

Sounds just like academia and the politics sphere.