Baldur's Gate 3 on it's way?

bat_boro · Dec 2, 2008

It seems there's finally going to be a new chapter in the epic saga, at least according to the rumors that are circulating the Internet

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=323024

So, is this one of the unanounced Obsidian projects?
As far as I remember Bioware have yet another project in the works, so could it be them instead?

let the speculations begin!

Melcar · Dec 2, 2008

Even if true, what would they do it on? ToB pretty much tied all loose ends. A prequel sounds lame. An alternate story arc perhaps?

MetalCraze · Dec 2, 2008

Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

bat_boro · Dec 2, 2008

skyway said:
Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

So if what you say is true, then the only one that could make BG 3 is Bioware?

where do you know that, link, please?

Jaesun · Dec 2, 2008

They renewed their license to continue to use the Baldur's Gate 1/2.

They do NOT own the right to Baldur's Gate, Atari owns it now. That was part of the settlement with Interplay vs Atari (IIRC).

Anthony Davis · Dec 2, 2008

bat_boro said:
skyway said:

Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

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So if what you say is true, then the only one that could make BG 3 is Bioware?

where do you know that, link, please?

I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

Hümmelgümpf · Dec 2, 2008

Anthony Davis said:
bat_boro said:

skyway said:

Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

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So if what you say is true, then the only one that could make BG 3 is Bioware?

where do you know that, link, please?

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I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

Even Sawyer's "sweet and tyte" Aliens RPG thread wasn't as teasing as this.

elander_ · Dec 2, 2008

Just let it be dead. That story is over. Create another story in another place of the Forgotten Realms and make it as interesting as the original BG was.

PastorOfMuppets · Dec 2, 2008

Atari plans to revisit the likes of Baldur's Gate, Dungeons & Dragons, Neverwinter Nights and Test Drive Unlimited, but not in the next 12 months.

Icewind Dale? Temple of Elemental Evil?

The only way I'd play Baldur's Gate is if Obsidian did it. There's something about Bioware's style that just doesn't mesh with me. I hated the original Baldur but loved Icewind Dale despite them being pretty damn similar. Too bad Obsidian is busy working on Bourne RPG and Not Another Aliens Movie.

bat_boro · Dec 2, 2008

Anthony Davis said:
I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

Heh, dear mister Davis, you as sure as hell made my day today

I've already jumped to the right conclusions and if I'm right than that will be sooooo awesome

Hümmelgümpf said:
Even Sawyer's "sweet and tyte" Aliens RPG thread wasn't as teasing as this.

fucking great, isn't it? :Obsidianfanboy:

RainSong · Dec 2, 2008

Anthony Davis said:
bat_boro said:

skyway said:

Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

Click to expand...

So if what you say is true, then the only one that could make BG 3 is Bioware?

where do you know that, link, please?

Click to expand...

I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

It's the Volorun syndrome (pooling 'facts' out of your arse and stating them like if they were laws of physic).

Hümmelgümpf · Dec 2, 2008

PastorOfMuppets said:
Too bad Obsidian is busy working on Bourne RPG and Not Another Aliens Movie.

They do have at least one unannounced project up their sleeve. A job opening for it was listed at some site.

Edward_R_Murrow · Dec 2, 2008

I thought Baldur's Gate was in kind of the same IP limbo that prevented a possible Torment sequel from ever happening. A situation where the characters, design assets, and story assets were owned by the developers, but the name rights and setting license were owned by the publishers. Obviously, Torment has the added fun of the Planescape setting being discontinued, but I still thought they were in much the same situation. I figured the only Baldur's Gate 3 that would ever exist was a Dark Alliance 3, especially seeing as 2 ended in a cliffhanger and both games sold very well and would likely sell much better than a "true" Baldur's Gate 3.

hiver · Dec 2, 2008

It stands to reason if you remember that Josh sawyer was one of the leads in that project interplay was doing just before they lost licensing rights.

I think they had most of the game finished actually.
It wasnt a direct sequell to BG ofcourse ... something about a black dog etc.
Cant remember right now how they called it.

Maybe they want to finish that...?

And since Bioware likes to work with Obsidian...and since they will be busy with that awfull looking dragon Age...?

fastpunk · Dec 2, 2008

bat_boro said:
Anthony Davis said:

I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

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Heh, dear mister Davis, you as sure as hell made my day today
I've already jumped to the right conclusions and if I'm right than that will be sooooo awesome

Dammit man, I wanted to say that. But with a bit more drama and 'aha'-s for the artistic impression. :D

Anyway, dudes, don't hold you're breath. I'm pretty sure (speaking from the gut here) that it's going to be another entry in the Dark Alliance series, not Baldur's Gate proper.

Though I'd love Obsidian doing a BG3. Just as I'd love to see them finish the KotOR trilogy. :daydream:

Darth Roxor · Dec 2, 2008

elander_ said:
That story is over.

well, they could do something completely unrelated, just like NWN2 was to NWN1.

bat_boro · Dec 2, 2008

Edward_R_Murrow said:
especially seeing as 2 ended in a cliffhanger and both games sold very well and would likely sell much better than a "true" Baldur's Gate 3.

What's that myth that PC games are not selling well compared to their console counterparts?
I thought that this year The Witcher proved the exact opposite
and as far as I know both KOTOR 2, NWN 2 and MotB sold pretty well

PastorOfMuppets · Dec 2, 2008

Hümmelgümpf said:
PastorOfMuppets said:

Too bad Obsidian is busy working on Bourne RPG and Not Another Aliens Movie.

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They do have at least one unannounced project up their sleeve. A job opening for it was listed at some site.

I'll cross my fingers. There's a lead artist position for an "upcoming triple-A RPG project" on the site.
I am a little weary that they will once again be riding on Bioware's coattails, but maybe since it's been so long since Baldur's Gate they will be able to do their own thing. The problems I had with Knights 2 and Neverwinter 2 stemmed from the problems I had with Bioware's games, but they were much more playable due to all the great parts Obsidian (I know I sound like a fanboy here) added; especially in writing and difficulty.
I never finished Baldur's Gate I or II so I don't know how the story continued between them or if a real sequel is even possible without making some huge story leaps.
Thinking about it more I don't see how Bioware could do another Baldur. They're hyping Dragon Age as it's spiritual successor. They're also making a MMO which will ultimately fail and probably bankrupt the company, but will take a hell of a lot of work in the mean time.
Speaking of Dark Alliance, since Interplay is back... you know.

Darth Roxor · Dec 2, 2008

PastorOfMuppets said:
I never finished Baldur's Gate I or II so I don't know how the story continued between them or if a real sequel is even possible without making some huge story leaps.

Basically, it's impossible. The BG story was absolutely and definitely ended.

MetalCraze · Dec 2, 2008

Anthony Davis said:
bat_boro said:

skyway said:

Obsidian won't be doing BG3 - that's for sure. And even if BG3 is going to happen any time soon - it surely won't be a good game - Bioware just renewed their rights to it this year.

Click to expand...

So if what you say is true, then the only one that could make BG 3 is Bioware?

where do you know that, link, please?

Click to expand...

I'm curious where he gets his information too. You seem so SURE skyway - so positive.

Aye. I've just found it to be a strange coincidence with all these talks about possible BG sequel during this year and recent Bioware renewal of the rights. It was discussed in some topic this summer - and info at some link clearly stated "Baldur's Gate" without any number.

Either way BG sequel is doomed to be shite.

thesheeep · Dec 2, 2008

skyway said:
Either way BG sequel is doomed to be shite.

Anyone up to make a "skyway's facts sheet" ?
Would be a pretty nice read.

Anyway... I wouldn't mind returning to the Baldur's Gate of the 4th edition. I wouldn't mind playing a 4th edition RPG at all, as I'm kinda curious about how it would do on PC (and consoles, most likely ).

Texas Red · Dec 2, 2008

Melcar said:
A prequel sounds lame.

Not true. I found Time of Troubles to be one of the more interesting parts of Faerun. The potential is great with gods running around, killing each other and raising hell. Highly unlikely though.

Even if Obsidian or CDP Red would be doing it, you'd still get that sellout aftertaste because of the name. Bladur's Gate *3*... um, okay, you're definitely not just using that name to milk the cow.

doctor_kaz · Dec 2, 2008

A new Baldurs Gate game could easily be made as a sequel. The story of the Bhaalspawn might be over but the chaos that they sowed could make a lot of great stories for later years.

hiver · Dec 2, 2008

Darth Roxor said:
PastorOfMuppets said:

Basically, it's impossible. The BG story was absolutely and definitely ended.

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Not really completly impossible. there is one way out but im not sure would it be really acceptable.

In the end you basicaly become a god instead of the old Bhaal. With the option to be a good god.

1. You can choose to return to the world as mortal, loosing all your powers along the way. Since you are a god this should be "possible"
Reason for this may be some sort of imbalance you have created or weird power struggles in the Pantheon.

2. There can be another "Time of troubles" maybe instigated by your godhood.

Raapys · Dec 2, 2008

Darth Roxor said:
Basically, it's impossible. The BG story was absolutely and definitely ended.

Playing a God could be interesting?

If they added Oblivion style level-scaling you'd still get killed by rats, though.

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