Aliens: Colonial Marines

[Oriebam]

Utterly disgusting. Beneath contempt and beyond forgiveness.

Double Kill! Points popping out of Xenomorph heads when you shoot them! This is supposed to be horror?

I THINK it's supposed to be multiplayer.

 

[DwarvenFood]

Isn't this the game that Anthony Davis worked on ?

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Confirmed: Gearbox cannot into making shooters with suspension and slower pacing

http://www.gamestar.de/videos/previews,18/aliens-colonial-marines,68440.html

Translation:

Cons: Very linear, plenty of action, almost zero survival horror, Aliens are too weak, uninspired leveldesign, cheap scriped events
Pros: Multiplayer could be good

Fuck that shit. First they had to fuck up BioCock Infinite, now this.

 

[Metro]

Translation:

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

That's just cold dude.

 

[ohWOW]

I know it will be shit, but I will probably get it day 1.

 

[Metro]

That's just cold dude.

In fairness, I can't take credit for making the image: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/south-park-the-stick-of-truth-trailer.78768/

 

[Lyric Suite]

Confirmed: Gearbox cannot into making shooters with suspension and slower pacing

I never got the impression this was supposed to be full of suspension or slow paced. The movie was neither, why should the game? The problem is that from what i've seen it sucks at being a fast paced action FPS as well. Just another banal/shit/boring Call of Dooty clone except in space.

 

[Psquit]

hmmm, aliens arent supposed to be faster than a bullet but i dont know why they are slower than your average human...
plus the game feels slower than half life 1.

 

[CorpseZeb]

Yup. Fluffy Alien Syndrome. For proper alien experience please go to first two installment of Alien vs Predator games. Especially the first one is fluffy free.

 

[Psquit]

Yup. Fluffy Alien Syndrome. For proper alien experience please go to first two installment of Alien vs Predator games. Especially the first one is fluffy free.

yeah, i played both of them a long time ago. Those aliens back then were deadly and fricking fast.

i dont know if they are supposed to be that fast...

 

[Derek Larp]

I think they got faster from movie to movie.

 

[Misconnected]

I think they got faster from movie to movie.

Sort of. But their speed in both games and films fit the original mythology. The Alien in the first film moved around slowly on screen partially because of technical limitations, but mostly because the point was to portray it as a kind of inevitable doom. If you check out the scenes where the Nostromo crew is tracking it as a blip in the airducts, you'll see it move around impossibly quickly.

The first AvP got it almost exactly right, I think. My only reservation is that they're single-minded to the point of being self-destructive - which absolutely doesn't fit with the original mythology. But then again, them being like ants, complete with a queen & shit, also doesn't fit at all with the original mythology. The implication throughout the original film is that their level of intelligence isn't known, but that it is likely human-equivalent. And of course, they turn their victims into eggs after scooping out the brainy goodness.

- Don't get me wrong, I like the second film a lot. But... Honestly, I liked the original mythology a hell of a lot more. Aliens is one of those weird flukes that almost never happen, where a sequel simultaneously destroys a fuckton of the really great bits of the original, but yet somehow still manages to be an outstanding film.

 

[Gragt]

Yup. Fluffy Alien Syndrome. For proper alien experience please go to first two installment of Alien vs Predator games. Especially the first one is fluffy free.

AvP2 I got no problem with. I played it again a couple of years ago and though I had fun I found that it aged badly and was more silly than scary. But the first one … Noooooo!

I think they got faster from movie to movie.

Sort of. But their speed in both games and films fit the original mythology. The Alien in the first film moved around slowly on screen partially because of technical limitations, but mostly because the point was to portray it as a kind of inevitable doom. If you check out the scenes where the Nostromo crew is tracking it as a blip in the airducts, you'll see it move around impossibly quickly.

Though when it kills people like Brett or especially Parker and Lambert, it moves very slowly and even sits in the middle of the room to toy with them, which is very eerie.

- Don't get me wrong, I like the second film a lot. But... Honestly, I liked the original mythology a hell of a lot more. Aliens is one of those weird flukes that almost never happen, where a sequel simultaneously destroys a fuckton of the really great bits of the original, but yet somehow still manages to be an outstanding film.

Most of the "mythology" in the first movie comes from extra-diegetic sources. The portrayal of the creature is more eerie though and charged with symbols. Aliens simply takes what is shown in Alien and does something different with it and in another direction, with great success too. Alien is still the same movie it was before Aliens came out.

 

[Misconnected]

Though when it kills people like Brett or especially Parker and Lambert, it moves very slowly and even sits in the middle of the room to toy with them, which is very eerie.

The dread is almost all of the reason for pacing when the Alien is actually on screen. And yeah, it works extremely well.

Most of the "mythology" in the first movie comes from extra-diegetic sources. The portrayal of the creature is more eerie though and charged with symbols. Aliens simply takes what is shown in Alien and does something different with it and in another direction, with great success too. Alien is still the same movie it was before Aliens came out.

You're entirely right about all of that. In no particular order: if the original film hadn't been so charged with sexual symbolism, I very much doubt it would have made the kind of impression on me that it did, or that it'd still be my favourite film of all time. If I hadn't been a massive HR Giger fanboy, I probably wouldn't have known how drastically the second film changed the mythology, before I actually saw the second film. And if the second film had outright contradicted something in the original cut of the first film, I would probably have been too busy nerd raeging over it to ever appreciate the second film.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

I don't think anybody will ever be able to replicate the Alien's true nature in a video game, or capture the essence of the first movie in a game, because video game AIs are all inherently about poo-poo-peng-peng. I.e. cannon fodder.

While Alien was eerie, AvP 1 was hectic and confusing. Both achieved the same goal, albeit for different reasons: They put stress onto the viever/player.

Gearbox, from what I've seen so far, cannot into both, and therefor this game will fail (at least for Alien fans).

 

[Sodafish]

Apart from the graphics and art direction that looks like utter shit. The snail paced character movement looks particularly retardo.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I don't think even derp of duty games move that slow. Are they trying to troll us?

 

[Sodafish]

It's probably to facilitate maximum emotional engagement.

 

[tuluse]

I don't think even derp of duty games move that slow. Are they trying to troll us?

Obviously moving slow = scary.

 

[circ]

If you want scary, you should maybe play the original 8-bit Aliens.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/aliens/screenshots

 

[villain of the story]

The best Aliens game^.

My dream Alien game: playing a colonist before and during the break down of Hadley's Hope, long before Ripley & co arrives. A party based iso TB truly survival horror RPG where you team up with fellow colonists, craft items out of the stuff at the colony, explore what the deal was with the lab and the face huggers preserved in tubes, generally just try to survive as long as possible and maybe even try to arrange a hidden cryosleep room safe from the aliens, hoping to be found in future, and none of that stealth bombing bullshit Obsidian intended to rape the franchise with Aliens RPG, complete with ridiculous boss monsters and everything. So glad that it was cancelled.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

So glad that it was cancelled.

Stumble into a pit and break your neck.

 

[villain of the story]

Aliens RPG in Obsidian's own words:

"It will be a stealth based survival game."

"Stealth based survival to us is setting bomb traps and killing without being seen."

We all know how that turned out in Alpha Popamole. Plus, their tech demo was utter shit. It didn't demonstrate interesting game mechanics. It didn't demonstrate good technology. It didn't demonstrate good AI. It didn't demonstrate anything worth shit. It demonstrated aliens killing NPCs and brilliant stealth survival mechanics at work in the form of sentry guns shooting at aliens. Instant Alien classic right there!

R00FLES!

 

[evdk]

maybe even try to arrange a hidden cryosleep room safe from the aliens

Probably not safe from the nuclear blast the size of Nebraska though, which is why I would prefer not to tie it in with the movie and use a generic colony instead.