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Development Info Project Eternity Kickstarter Update #6: Project Eternity To Use Unity Engine

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Crooked Bee, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. Crooked Bee wide-wandering bee Patron

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    In the latest Kickstarter update, Obsidian Entertainment have revealed they're using - no, not a modification of Onyx - everyone's favorite engine, Unity. Here's the explanation:

    At Obsidian, we have always tried to choose the engine and toolset most suited to the game we are making. When making a sequel to an existing game, we use the engine from the original game so that we don’t waste time recreating the inner workings and gameplay behavior in a new engine before we can even start developing new content. When creating a new game from scratch, we evaluate the options available to us and choose the one we think fits best. In the case of Project Eternity, we feel the best fit is Unity.

    Unity enables small teams to be very productive. Unity has an amazing development environment that makes it very easy for programmers, artists and designers to work together to build great games. In a very short time we have already made great progress prototyping some of the core functionality for Project Eternity.

    We do intend to use some of our in-house tools in conjunction with Unity where it makes sense, such as in the case of creating conversations and editing some of the RPG-specific game data. Unity makes it very easy to extend not only the game engine but the development tools as well, and we feel integrating some of the tools that have already proven effective on previous Obsidian games will get us off to a great start on the development of Project Eternity.

    Unity also supports a wide range of target platforms. We knew that a likely request from the community was going to be support for Mac and Linux versions of the game, and we wanted to make sure we were in the best position to do that. While we could have ported Onyx, our internal engine technology, to those platforms, the time and effort required to do so would reduce the budget we have to make the game and result in less of the awesome gameplay and content our fans desire. Mac and Linux will still require time and effort from us to test, maintain and support but Unity gets us most of the way there. In fact, our experience with Unity so far has made us confident enough that we have decided to remove Linux support from the stretch goals and just commit to providing a Linux version right here and now! Of course, we can’t take something away from our stretch goals without putting something else in its place, so what is that going to be?

    The $2.2 million stretch goal will still include a new Region, a new Faction, a new Companion and all the hours of additional gameplay, quests, NPCs and items that go along with those things. But we’ve also got something new coming to this stretch goal, and it’s big enough that it’s deserving of its own update to talk about it! So tune in this coming Monday, September 24th where we will reveal our new stretch goals, unveil a fun new tracker for them, and announce our schedule of guest stars for the week!​

    So what do you think now, Vault Dweller?
     
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  2. Alex_Steel Arcane Patron

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  3. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Surprisingly little butthurt. Let me give it a push:

    Blame this on Mac and Linux fags. When the fuck did they start to matter and have requests? Just be happy if games run in your shit Wine emulator.
     
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  4. Jedi Exile Arcane Patron

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    It has probably little to do with Mac and Linux users. Unity is cheap and InXile already using it, maybe its was the main reason.
     
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  5. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator Patron

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    I pretty much figured they would also use Unity (with the announcement that they were NOT using Onyx). I assume both Obsidian and InXile would be helping each other out, engine wise.
     
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  6. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Macfags and linsux nerds are so fucking entitled even though they barely buy any games. Back when Loki was doing ports of windows games for linux, they barely sold any, instead linsux nerds kept asking them to release the exe-files so they can get windows-version for cheaps or pirate it.
     
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  7. fuzz Educated

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    Why is this engine bad? Not trolling, just curious.

    inb4 search is off.
     
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  8. kaizoku Arcane

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    The problem is that they will have to code a new engine from scratch, which will take time and money!
    Instead they could have used Tim Cain's Steam engine (ToEE, Arcanum).
     
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  9. Zed Codex Staff Patron

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    What are you talking about? Unity is the engine. If you're talking about setting it up so it works with obsidian's in-house dialogue tools and stuff like that, I think that's gonna be a lot less painless than it would be to set up Source.
     
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  10. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    They already set it up to work with their tools, for Wasteland 2.

    The whole indignation is based on an assumption that some are making that an RPG can't be made in less than 3 years unless it's based on a pre-existing engine with pre-existing assets. Both inXile and Obsidian cited ease and speed of use specifically for selecting Unity. I expect them both to go a few months past their deadline because that's how videogame industry works, but I don't think the assumption of 17/18-month cycle is impossible should be taken as gospel truth.

    The engine is fine, in other words.
     
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  11. l3loodAngel Proud INTJ Patron Edgy

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    Someone complained that the UE games look cartoony. Does it depend on the engine or on the artists?
     
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  12. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    Artists. that has dick-all to do with the engine. I mean, this is what it can do, though those kind of tech demos aren't too useful, but youtube any number of Unity projects to see plenty of non-cartoony graphics.
     
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    Both. Artist and whatever renderer they end up using. I seem to remember though, that I've heard they are coding their own renderer for this to get the infinity feel right?
     
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  14. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    That looks cartoony as hell.
     
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  15. nihil Augur

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    As long as they stick to 2D backgrounds, I'm happy, engine wise.
     
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  16. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Lots of faggots in the Kickstarter comments whining about Wasteland 2's "cartoony" art.
     
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  17. nihil Augur

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    WL2 doesn't really look cartoony. It just looks cheap.
     
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  18. l3loodAngel Proud INTJ Patron Edgy

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    Thanks guys.

    How can Obsidian suck at PR that much? They know concerns about UNITY and they did nothing resolve them. And the pledging almost died the moment Obsidian said UNITY...
     
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  19. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    HURR DURR, it always "dies", but somehow it doesn't. :roll:

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    For a videogame? No. It looks cartoony as a 3D animated short, because, well, 3D animation = a cartoon.

    This is exactly my problem with the whole "cartoony" shit. People just seem to use it to mean whatever they want it to mean. A videogame that looked like that short would not be cartoony, that's stupid. Is this cartoony too?
     
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  21. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Actually I think that people are so used to cartoony shit that they can't tell it apart anymore. That looks pretty much like an early Pixar movie. Look at the character. No textures to speak of either, just simple materials.
     
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  22. Excidium P. banal

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    Exactly. Wasteland 2 uses it, they're collaborating, makes sense.
     
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  23. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Where's Drog when you need him?
     
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  24. made Arcane

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    Perhaps instead of "cartoony" it would be more appropriate to say "it looks like a fucking Wii game".
     
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  25. l3loodAngel Proud INTJ Patron Edgy

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    The shit was stale for at least 20 min. As I was refreshing it...
     
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