Rape. (new image at official FO3 site)

[OverrideB1]

What the heck is a "codexer" anyway?

Somebody who is passionate (often to the point of irrationality) about real role-playing games. Not the pseudo-RPG crap that passes for role-playing now whereby you can slap "RPG" on the box and lo, it's a fucking RPG because the software company says it's so -- but real RPGs. Y'know, the stuff where character development, storyline, actions having consequences, and all the rest of that happy stuff actually matters. The stuff that software companies have either forgotten how to, or can't be arsed to, include in their latest oeuvres.

 

[Balor]

That's not Fallout.

That's "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Washington".
And music sounds like it was ripped off from Baldur's Gate.
Not bad by itself, but, again, it's not Fallout.

 

[Lumpy]

If they removed the Washington Monument, then it would be better.

BUT TEH PENIS IS WHAT TEH GAEM IS ALL ABOOT.

I AM LEET SARCASTIC EVEN IF I AM NOT REALLY SATIRIZING ANYTHING ACTUALY LOLOLOL.

 

[Jasede]

That picture looks great, but sadly, the concept art isn't gonna make a good game.

 

[Crazy_Vasey]

And why the fuck is the ground so green, it looks like there's grass growing. It's a fucking wasteland goddammit, not a botanic garden!!!

There wouldn't be much of a game to play if the entire fucking world had starved because you couldn't grow anything.

 

[Shoelip]

What the heck is a "codexer" anyway?

Somebody who is passionate (often to the point of irrationality) about real role-playing games. Not the pseudo-RPG crap that passes for role-playing now whereby you can slap "RPG" on the box and lo, it's a fucking RPG because the software company says it's so -- but real RPGs. Y'know, the stuff where character development, storyline, actions having consequences, and all the rest of that happy stuff actually matters. The stuff that software companies have either forgotten how to, or can't be arsed to, include in their latest oeuvres.

Meh, in my opinion you can't have a real RPG without a GM. That's why we have terms like CRPG and JRPG and whatnot. That's not to say that any of the CRPGs coming out these days have matched, much less surpassed, the games of the 90s.

And why the fuck is the ground so green, it looks like there's grass growing. It's a fucking wasteland goddammit, not a botanic garden!!!

There wouldn't be much of a game to play if the entire fucking world had starved because you couldn't grow anything.

Hm, I think a better critisism of this post would be; "What are you talking about? I don't see any grass, just lots of black and brown patches."

Listening to that again song I gotta say: Damn I wish this wasn't supposed to be a Fallout game!

 

[Kingston]

If they removed the Washington Monument, then it would be better.

BUT TEH PENIS IS WHAT TEH GAEM IS ALL ABOOT.

I AM LEET SARCASTIC EVEN IF I AM NOT REALLY SATIRIZING ANYTHING ACTUALY LOLOLOL.

WHO GIVES A FUCK L0L0L

 

[Hory]

Aside from the fact that the pic doesn't say Fallout at all, I repeat: The capital building wasn't important enough to target?

Just for the sake of argument: a military target nearby would be more important, and the blast would reach the capital building as well, damaging it beyond use. Making a second attack specifically for it would be a waste of resources. Or maybe they don't like the psychological consequences of intentionally obliterating american symbols.

 

[Dark Elf]

The Capitol is left standing because it makes Washington DC instantly recognizable. I suppose this overrides any scientific considerations.

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

That and it will be used as the new Temple of Trials. Joy!

 

[JarlFrank]

That and it will be used as the new Temple of Trials. Joy!

Who do you think will lead us through the starting dungeon this time? Last time it was Picard, now maybe Gandalf or Obi Wan?

Seriously, I bet there will be some kind of stupid beginning dungeon again, which will be one of the few places where the story is actually halfway interesting, just like in Oblivion.
It will be worse than the temple of trials, because you will have to click yourself through all the monolouge of whatever idiot will introduce you.

 

[Shoelip]

That reminds me.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5636/oblivion200612181526115jv4.png

Anyway, I didn't have much of a problem with the temple of trials, it was really short compaired any other RPG tutorial/starting dungeon I've seen.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

That reminds me.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5636/oblivion200612181526115jv4.png

Anyway, I didn't have much of a problem with the temple of trials, it was really short compaired any other RPG tutorial/starting dungeon I've seen.

I like jimbob's version where he is saying, "HOORSEE ARRRRRMAAAHHHHH!!!!"

 

[Shoelip]

Well it was sort of supposed to imply that the character's in the game were fed up with it.

 

[Volourn]

"about real role-playing games."

Yeah, because games like the GB series, M&M, and Wizardry were all about the 'real role-playing'.

R00fles!

 

[JarlFrank]

"about real role-playing games."

Yeah, because games like the GB series, M&M, and Wizardry were all about the 'real role-playing'.

R00fles!

Yeah, because most Codexers have Planescape, Arcanum and Fallout as their favourite games.
And don't forget Bloodlines and Baldur's Gate, and other RPGs with a lot of R in them.

Oh, and to the Gold Box and Wizardry games not having real role playing... they are still more RPG than most of the modern crap like Oblivion. Why? Because they founded the PCRPG genre. The first CRPGs were simple dungeon romps. So, obviously, dungeon romp Wiz/M&M/GB style = true RPG.

I win, you lose, Volourn. Accept it.

 

[Lumpy]

"about real role-playing games."

Yeah, because games like the GB series, M&M, and Wizardry were all about the 'real role-playing'.

R00fles!

Yeah, because most Codexers have Planescape, Arcanum and Fallout as their favourite games.
And don't forget Bloodlines and Baldur's Gate, and other RPGs with a lot of R in them.

Oh, and to the Gold Box and Wizardry games not having real role playing... they are still more RPG than most of the modern crap like Oblivion. Why? Because they founded the PCRPG genre. The first CRPGs were simple dungeon romps. So, obviously, dungeon romp Wiz/M&M/GB style = true RPG.

I win, you lose, Volourn. Accept it.

They didn't found the RPG genre. To be a real PC RPG, a game would have to have the main characteristics of PnP.
Which, afaik, are much more than dungeon romps.
Besides, Oblivion is full of dungeons, that were even praised by VD? It still sucks as an RPG though.

 

[JarlFrank]

"about real role-playing games."

Yeah, because games like the GB series, M&M, and Wizardry were all about the 'real role-playing'.

R00fles!

Yeah, because most Codexers have Planescape, Arcanum and Fallout as their favourite games.
And don't forget Bloodlines and Baldur's Gate, and other RPGs with a lot of R in them.

Oh, and to the Gold Box and Wizardry games not having real role playing... they are still more RPG than most of the modern crap like Oblivion. Why? Because they founded the PCRPG genre. The first CRPGs were simple dungeon romps. So, obviously, dungeon romp Wiz/M&M/GB style = true RPG.

I win, you lose, Volourn. Accept it.

They didn't found the RPG genre. To be a real PC RPG, a game would have to have the main characteristics of PnP.
Which, afaik, are much more than dungeon romps.
Besides, Oblivion is full of dungeons, that were even praised by VD? It still sucks as an RPG though.

They didn't found the RPG genre, but they did found the Computer RPG genre. They were the first RPGs to be made for PCs, so they founded the genre of the PC RPG.

And Oblivion was not alike those old dungeon romps which usually had turn based combat and often party based one. And they were hard. Like, really hard. Like, Wizardry 4 for example. Also, RPGs have evolved over time. Still, we cannot deny that those ancient gems have founded the genre, and thus are to be regarded as real RPGs. What nowadays is considered an RPG might be different, but these were the CRPGs of that time.

 

[Shoelip]

That's an interesting point Oblivoin came out in 2006 and those games came out in the late 80s or early 90s. You'ed expect things to progress wouldn't you.

 

[Lumpy]

They didn't found the RPG genre, but they did found the Computer RPG genre. They were the first RPGs to be made for PCs, so they founded the genre of the PC RPG.

And Oblivion was not alike those old dungeon romps which usually had turn based combat and often party based one. And they were hard. Like, really hard. Like, Wizardry 4 for example. Also, RPGs have evolved over time. Still, we cannot deny that those ancient gems have founded the genre, and thus are to be regarded as real RPGs. What nowadays is considered an RPG might be different, but these were the CRPGs of that time.

So if the first computer football games would have been sidescrollers where you have to kick as many balls as you can to win, that would have become the standard of computer football games. Right?

 

[JarlFrank]

They didn't found the RPG genre, but they did found the Computer RPG genre. They were the first RPGs to be made for PCs, so they founded the genre of the PC RPG.

And Oblivion was not alike those old dungeon romps which usually had turn based combat and often party based one. And they were hard. Like, really hard. Like, Wizardry 4 for example. Also, RPGs have evolved over time. Still, we cannot deny that those ancient gems have founded the genre, and thus are to be regarded as real RPGs. What nowadays is considered an RPG might be different, but these were the CRPGs of that time.

So if the first computer football games would have been sidescrollers where you have to kick as many balls as you can to win, that would have become the standard of computer football games. Right?

No, but they could be considered as *real* football games because they founded the genre.

 

[Elwro]

They didn't found the RPG genre. To be a real PC RPG, a game would have to have the main characteristics of PnP.
Which, afaik, are much more than dungeon romps.

Well, the founder of PnP RPGs, Dungeons and Dragons, was exactly a dungeon romp. (I played it and I still have the rulebook, so I'm 100% sure.)

 

[Shagnak]

Bet me to it, Elwro. :wink:

Dungeon romps were the certainly the emphasis.

 

[Nutcracker]

Aside from the fact that the pic doesn't say Fallout at all, I repeat: The capital building wasn't important enough to target?

Just for the sake of argument: a military target nearby would be more important, and the blast would reach the capital building as well, damaging it beyond use. Making a second attack specifically for it would be a waste of resources. Or maybe they don't like the psychological consequences of intentionally obliterating american symbols.

Considering how many thousands of nukes the Russkies/Chinese have, there's no reason why they'd have to economise on targetting. They could afford to drop a dozen on DC.

 

[dagorkan]

Except if DC is no longer the capital - which is quite likely in a debased American Empire.

I like that idea. The actual physical symbols of the Constitution are abandoned... whitey upper-class congressmen run off to some bunker in Idaho and the negroes are left to rot in their overcrowded city. Then all of a sudden WW3 sparks up, the politicos and Idaho are obliterated (except the President who escapes to an oil rig off California) while poor, run-down DC is spared the bombs. Surrounding Maryland and Virginia are vitrified, the few inbred survivors spawn ghastly cracker-mutants. One hundred years later some dude (you) comes along, restores DC, unites the people, infiltrates the mutants' HQ in Rockville, Maryland, and exterminates the mutant commander (an even more retarded-looking descendant of Pete Hines).

If Beth has any sense they'll hire me.