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The best RPG sidekick...

fuzz

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Dickie said:
What about Ian from Fallout? I loved his attitude. He didn't care if you took away his gun. He'd gladly get killed by radscorpions for "a piece of the action."
I like Cassidy's attitude better and to hell with Ian's bursting, really.
Best sidekick? Katja wielding the .223 Pistol, downside is you have to get to LA rather early.
 

Marobug

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micmu said:
Marobug said:
micmu said:
The poll is also pointless because 99% of the shitbags coming to that site don't even know PS:T.
I'm glad I'm one of the 1% elite who doesn't have a clue who this vivi is.
Yes, because nowadays being ignorant is being part of the elite. :lol:
Not knowing about some anime "character" from some absolute garbage mainstream japanese piece of shit is hardly being "ignorant". Unless you're Japanese, of course, or weeaboo scum.

I have no clue who or what the fuck vivi is and never played a final fantasy game in my life which means I'm ignorant when it comes to that particular subject. I'm surely not part of any elite for not being able to name a single final fantasy character. As in, I'm not proud to be ignorant, even if it's a subject I don't care about.
 

Baron

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Urdnot Wrex, the glorious, unpredictable, morally ambiguous Krogan. I fell in love with him when I was interrogating a suspect and he finished my sentence with a shotgun. I fucking loved that alien bullfrog, and ever since Mass Effect I've taken to riding elevators with fat people in the hope that they'll say something hilarious.

Poryphyrs Cadorna. Okay, he wasn't my sidekick per se. But he felt like one of the team, even more so as he clawed his way to political power in line with my party's accomplishments. He grew along side me, it was great moment in gaming. Didn't need to see him dead in Pool of Darkness, an undignified end to a solid bastard.

Mechwarrior's Tricky Nick (or Killer?) - "I want to burn villages, eat dead, burnt bodies, kill, kill, kill." That guy was so hired. Fuck RPG pedants, it was an action-rpg, at least the way I played it, icily staring across the table as I negotiated with those pricks at House Kurita. And Tricky Nick had more character to me in that one line than the entire cast of Baldur's Gate (with the exception of the Xvarts).


And Deekin/Minsc fans need to leave. Quietly... just, just go.
 

Cassidy

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Marobug said:
micmu said:
Marobug said:
micmu said:
The poll is also pointless because 99% of the shitbags coming to that site don't even know PS:T.
I'm glad I'm one of the 1% elite who doesn't have a clue who this vivi is.
Yes, because nowadays being ignorant is being part of the elite. :lol:
Not knowing about some anime "character" from some absolute garbage mainstream japanese piece of shit is hardly being "ignorant". Unless you're Japanese, of course, or weeaboo scum.

I have no clue who or what the fuck vivi is and never played a final fantasy game in my life which means I'm ignorant when it comes to that particular subject. I'm surely not part of any elite for not being able to name a single final fantasy character. As in, I'm not proud to be ignorant, even if it's a subject I don't care about.

LOLOLOL GO BACK TO SANKAKUCOMPLEX WEEABOO
 

oldmansavage

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Renegen said:
Cynic said:
That's true, it was childish. But to me the best FF game was definitely VI closely followed by XII (personal taste). VI had a very mature story line for its time, was quite serious and epic without being emo and angsty. So I find it hard to understand why everyone says that IX was a "good old days" FF, when in fact they weren't really ever as cutesy as that.

I never felt FFIX was "old school", just boring. Zidane and Vivi were high points though. The magic system was probably what was most old school. After the horrible experiment of FF8, I think some people wanted the old type of character development they learned.

And interestingly enough my favourite are also FF6 followed by FF12.

My favorite gook game will always be FF tactics.
 

Notorious

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Korgan. He is an one-dimensional character but I can't play through this game without him. (And it's a shame that Bioware has put this character into every single of their games since BG2, but he is the best of them all)

"[grumbling] ...bloody forest... damn tree-huggers and daisy-eaters... burn 'em all..."
 
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Renegen said:
Millions of people played Final Fantasy IX, so stop being so smug. I'd also say Final Fantasy games are pretty cosmopolitan and I never thought of the nationality of their designers while playing them. Maybe you have a problem.

Fucking Pearl Harbor, man. How can you forgive them
 

Sacculina

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PrzeSzkoda said:
One of Many from Mask of the Betrayer.

I second that. Gann, Safiya, Okku and Kaelyn are companions--One of May is a real sidekick, and certainly the best evil sidekick in any game I've ever played. And tasty. I just want to nom his soul. :twisted:
 

Turjan

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Zed said:
Edwin. I don't play BG without him in the party.
For me, it's definitely the most entertaining character in the BG games. Hardly a sidekick, though. He was a better mage than the PC could ever dream to be. Fucking DM PC.
 

flabbyjack

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Dickie said:
What about Ian from Fallout? I loved his attitude. He didn't care if you took away his gun. He'd gladly get killed by radscorpions for "a piece of the action."
O RLY? Ian had about as much depth as a piece of paper. Now Myron, there's a nerd you can love
 

made

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Fuck them haters. Deekin owns this thread.

old___deekin_by_pkunkbwok-d365pdr.jpg
 

Cynic

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oldmansavage said:
Renegen said:
Cynic said:
That's true, it was childish. But to me the best FF game was definitely VI closely followed by XII (personal taste). VI had a very mature story line for its time, was quite serious and epic without being emo and angsty. So I find it hard to understand why everyone says that IX was a "good old days" FF, when in fact they weren't really ever as cutesy as that.

I never felt FFIX was "old school", just boring. Zidane and Vivi were high points though. The magic system was probably what was most old school. After the horrible experiment of FF8, I think some people wanted the old type of character development they learned.

And interestingly enough my favourite are also FF6 followed by FF12.

My favorite gook game will always be FF tactics.

Another Matsuno masterpiece. Too bad he went insane when making XII, he was the best designer JPRGs ever had.
 

Wyrmlord

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flabbyjack said:
Dickie said:
What about Ian from Fallout? I loved his attitude. He didn't care if you took away his gun. He'd gladly get killed by radscorpions for "a piece of the action."
O RLY? Ian had about as much depth as a piece of paper. Now Myron, there's a nerd you can love
Yes, Ian had no depth whatsoever. But look at what was so great about him.

The man had Unarmed, Meelee, Small Guns, and Big Guns skills all above 80% or 90%. He could fight anyway, anywhere, anyhow. And you got him at the very beginning of the game on the smallest whim. Even when his ammo for one gun runs out, he picks the next best thing and continues killing.

But while it seems like he might only be a stepping stone to getting better NPCs later, turns out that like fine wine, Ian gets even better later on. Why? Because giving him a 14mm pistol or .223 SMG makes him even more dangerous than anybody you face later in the game. The man has blown arms off super mutants several times in my Fallout game. He helped knocked down a Deathclaw right when it was about to kill me.

So Ian was basically someone who initially seems like an okay-ish nobody, but later turns out to be the finest $100 investment one can ever get, one who pays off 200 times over.
 

Sacculina

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Wyrmlord said:
Because giving him a 14mm pistol or .223 SMG makes him even more dangerous than anybody you face later in the game. The man has blown arms off super mutants several times in my Fallout game. He helped knocked down a Deathclaw right when it was about to kill me.

If effectiveness in combat is the basis for choosing our favourite sidekick, I'd have to go with Boone. Depth + insane damage-dealing + least annoying battle/sneak cries. Yeah, 'sneak cries' :roll:
 

sser

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Honestly? Alistair from Dragon Age. Yeah I said Alistair, from Dragon Age.

I grew fond of him when I realized his whining and complaining toward the end of the game kind of reflected my own perceptions. We were in the shit together. I even felt bad when
I forced Kingship on him and he was totally bummed out about it
in that game's trope-heavy ending.
 

Sacculina

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sser said:
Honestly? Alistair from Dragon Age. Yeah I said Alistair, from Dragon Age.
Yeah, he's not that bad. He's an idiot, but he knows it, and that self-awareness alone makes him one of the better BioWare characters. His dialogue made me want to smash his face in, though.
 

FatCat

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Zed said:
Edwin. I don't play BG without him in the party.

This 100x times this , the part where he turns into woman was one of the most hilarious things i have witnessed in any video game ever.
 
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FatCat said:
Zed said:
Edwin. I don't play BG without him in the party.

This 100x times this , the part where he turns into woman was one of the most hilarious things i have witnessed in any video game ever.

I always took Edwin in BG2. And yes, he probably was the best NPC. Mind you, I hated it how he basically made going a straight mage really unsatisfying, due to his 'irremovable necklace of extra spells per level', which combined with his awesome stats, meant that it wasn't actually possible for the PC to be as good a pure mage as Edwin. They did make you do a chain of side-quests before you could get him, so I didn't feel like he was imbalanced - it was kind of cool having the game make clear that the PC wasn't the only 'powerful dude' hanging around Athklata, and that a few of the more powerful party members were significant powers in their own right, but it would feel kind of wrong to be playing a pure mage when you were guaranteed to be 2nd fiddle, the back-up caster to Edwin's l33tness.

Of course, you could always cheese the exp cap, taking JUST the right number of fighter levels so that you could still hit the maximum mage level possible under the cap, hence becoming way more powerful than Edwin by having the same mage level as him plus a hefty bunch of fighter levels:). Or Kensai if you really wanted to cheese.

In fact, I always felt going the fighter-mage (dual as above, not multi - dual was way more powerful in BG2 - multi was best in BG1, not sure if it catches back up again in ToB) was the most fun if you were going a munchkiny set of powerful NPCs in your party. With, say, Edwin, Viconia, Minsc and Yoshimo (subbed for Imoen later) and one other front-liner, you'd basically have every vital position filled by someone with munchkin-level stats (and, with the Yoshimo to Imoen swap, a change from a near-perfect stats thief to someone who has 'just' enough thief to cover all your traps/locks needs, without losing any mage levels, just as you get around the exp level where the latter becomes much more useful than the former), making a straight class character feel somewhat redundant. Gee - I can be Edwin's backup caster, or I can substitute for Viconia without being any better than she is (possibly worse due to her magic resistance), a thief who is no better than Yoshi, or a front-liner who is only marginally better than Minsc/Keldorn/evil-dwarf-guy. Going fighter-mage meant you could fortify whatever role was needed for that encounter, and it's just about the only way you can actually have the PC stand out as better than the rest of the party.
 

sgc_meltdown

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Keeper Deven said:
If effectiveness in combat is the basis for choosing our favourite sidekick, I'd have to go with Boone.

in american mojave, npc escorts you
 

Andhaira

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Edwin Odeyssian from BG2. When he became a tranny, it got even more hilarious.
 
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SuicideBunny said:
fuck that bald underweight skull. nordom never lied to you and actually did what you told it to without demanding you to spend hard cash on some whore so it could get off without having a cock.

:thumbsup:
 

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