Squeenix Why do people hate FF XIII, but love FF X?

[StaticSpine]

I'm just curious. I finish my X playthrough.

The game is basically the same as XIII - corridor locations-cutscenes-corridor locations-cutscenes-etc. Oh yeah and both games have that part when you get to the wast field after that corridors and you feel lost.

The battle system is different, but just a bit, in X it is turn-based, BUT every team member plays specoal role (and is useful in some particular battles - the same as particular paradigms in XIII)

The story in XIII and dialogues were not worse than in X, I'd even say I prefer XIII. The same with the characters.

So why is X getting praise, and XIII gets hate? Is this only that Toriyama thing?

 

[SuicideBunny]

dunno. i hate very ff besides 4, 5, 6 and 8

 

[Jick Magger]

I think people are just alot more lax on it because of a combination of it being one of the big titles for the Playstation 2, and rose-tinted glasses. If you look at it now the story's not that great, the characters (save Auron) not that interesting, the voice acting terrible even for the day (MGS2 was released the same year and completely blew it out of the water in voice direction), and about the only real stand-out thing about it was the combat, which is still very good.

Could also argue that the decline of JRPG's in the western market (In 2001 we were living in a post-Final Fantasy VII world, in 2009 we were living in a post-Call of Duty 4 world) has lead to the flaws that would've been ignored at the time of FFX's release to be looked on in a much more critical light. The spectacle of having cinematic moments in video games and honest-to-god gorgeous CGI cutscenes simply don't wow audiences as much as they did in 2001.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Because there's still a turn-based system.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Because weebos.

 

[StaticSpine]

I think people are just alot more lax on it because of a combination of it being one of the big titles for the Playstation 2, and rose-tinted glasses. If you look at it now the story's not that great, the characters (save Auron) not that interesting, the voice acting terrible even for the day (MGS2 was released the same year and completely blew it out of the water in voice direction), and about the only real stand-out thing about it was the combat, which is still very good.

Could also argue that the decline of JRPG's in the western market (In 2001 we were living in a post-Final Fantasy VII world, in 2009 we were living in a post-Call of Duty 4 world) has lead to the flaws that would've been ignored at the time of FFX's release to be looked on in a much more critical light. The spectacle of having cinematic moments in video games and honest-to-god gorgeous CGI cutscenes simply don't wow audiences as much as they did in 2001.

Well, yeah, all of this makes sence. The thing is - I played XIII in 2013 and X now, in 2014, so I can compare them like they are both modern games. I've missed all the incline-decline-whatevercline eras of JRPGs, and I believe the first one I Played was FF VII in 2010 (do not count Septerra Core).

Because there's still a turn-based system.

Still not enough for that contrast of ratings.

Because weebos.

 

[Average Manatee]

It can't be overstated how shit paradigms are. For all the shit FF12 gets for "playing the game for you", at least there you were only one step removed from controlling your characters and actually created the scripts. In FF13 the game is now one step away from being a cutscene in terms of player interaction. In comparison FF10 combat was great.

Otherwise I agree that there is a huge nostalgia factor with most of the PS1/PS2 era games.

 

[Monad]

No clue man. 10 is almost exactly like xiii in its structure but it DOES have a better battle system. However, the people that adore FFX do not list its battle mechanics as a reason usually. Mostly they say they like it because of the story and feels.

 

[Duraframe300]

Pretty much everyone has a different opinion on Final Fantasy games. There are plenty people that hate X.

For me for example VIII is the biggest abomination to have ever come out of gaming. And IX is one of my favourite games of all time.

 

[Lemming42]

I dunno, I really hated X. VIII and X are the only two FF games I seriously can't stand and had to force myself to finish, but I didn't play anything after X so I dunno if XIII is better or worse.

 

[Tigranes]

IX > VI > VII > V > IV > *

ROOFLES!

 

[Sranchammer]

X >>> VII >>>> IV >>>> rest

Yevon is so hot.

 

[evdk]

People like X?

 

[Lemming42]

Are we rating them now?
VI > IV > IX > VII > III > V > I > II > VIII > X

 

[evdk]

Are we rating them now?
shit > VI > IV > IX > VII > III > V > I > II > VIII > X

Almost there, but it needed a small fix.

 

[Lemming42]

If "shit" was moved down to between IX and VII then I'd agree.

 

[aleph]

V > IX > X = VI = IV = III >>>> VII == 4 Heroes of Light

haven't played the rest

 

[Helly]

I hate both XIII and X, but I love me some X-2 kawaiiness

 

[Xor]

I hate them both. Although I only hate FFXIII based on word of mouth and gameplay footage (and Spoony's review) because I'm not ever going to play it.


FFX has a decent combat system, some interesting themes, and a pretty cool setting, but is in all other ways one of the worst entries in the franchise.

 

[Scroo]

I hate both XIII and X, but I love me some X-2 kawaiiness

There are people that actually like X-2?!

 

[Rahdulan]

I dunno, I really hated X. VIII and X are the only two FF games I seriously can't stand and had to force myself to finish, but I didn't play anything after X so I dunno if XIII is better or worse.

Some would argue FF10 was the beginning of the decline, but most people were too busy experiencing it as baby's first Final Fantasy of their respective console generation. It's no coincidence that FF7 and FF10 are so popular and it goes beyond their inherent qualities. I'll take my FF12 and run for the hills, thank you very much.

People like X?

You think that's bad? Have you heard the Japanese laugh?

 

[Scroo]

Sounds like a crow

 

[Helly]

I hate both XIII and X, but I love me some X-2 kawaiiness

There are people that actually like X-2?!

Well, I've always been a fan of the good old FF job system and I hated the goddamn sphere grid... Obviously the story is stupid, but at least we have a main heroine that's relatively likeable, so that's already better than fucking Tidus.
Anyway why would I need an excuse for loving a dress up RPG ?

 

[Dickie]

I just liked the conditional turn-based battle system that was only in 10. That's why I love that game the most of all the FF games. The story and faggotry don't really appeal to me in any of the games except maybe six.

 

[Helly]

For a true codexian experience you might want to try Futanari Fantasy XX

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