Torchlight 2 is a MASSIVE incline

[Spike]

Torchlight 3 was a MASSIVE failure. Whahappan?

All 3 just aren't as good as Diablo II.

 

[Drakortha]

Torchlight 3 was a MASSIVE failure. Whahappan?

All 3 just aren't as good as Diablo II.

I don't know if I agree.

It's my first time playing Torchlight 2 and Diablo 2 this past day and a half. I have no nostalgia for either game, so that should mean I'm unbiased.

Diablo 2 movement just feels slower and more sluggish. Swinging weapons to hit enemies feels the same. Torchlight 2 has more energy in your movement and you feel like you're hitting stuff.

Inventory is way too small in D2 and you have to constantly drop stuff or portal back to town to sell. Torchlight 2 alleviates this with a larger inventory and a pet that you can send back to town to sell stuff with a cooldown. Convenient but balanced and keeps the game at a good pace.

D2 quest system is a little archaic. I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer the quest markers in TL2. If the game tells you exactly where you need to go, that means less time wandering aimlessly and more time cleaving your way through mobs and looting. Which is what you want to be doing more of in this kind of game, not less.

D2 is less suitable for pick up and play/mobile play. When you return to TL2 after some time away, even if you were mid-dungeon last time, you begin right where you left off with a simple quest marker telling you what direction you should start heading towards. But in D2 if you have to quit the game mid-dungeon, too bad. Your ass is getting sent back to town. And you've got to open your quest log to figure out where to go from there. It's just a lot slower to get going.

I think D2 is still a good game. I definitely like it's themes better. Cleansing the land of evil and all that, and the darker tone. And the music is a lot better. But gameplay wise TL2 is the better game. It's got the advantage of over a decade of hindsight and makes a lot of improvements that you can't really ignore. The devs knew what they were doing and I think they improved the formula in lots of ways.

Best game would be D2's graphic style and themes with TL2's gameplay improvements I think.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Torchlight 3 was a MASSIVE failure. Whahappan?

Chinese companies bought the ip

 

[Spike]

Torchlight 3 was a MASSIVE failure. Whahappan?

All 3 just aren't as good as Diablo II.

I don't know if I agree.

It's my first time playing Torchlight 2 and Diablo 2 this past day and a half. I have no nostalgia for either game, so that should mean I'm unbiased.

Diablo 2 movement just feels slower and more sluggish. Swinging weapons to hit enemies feels the same. Torchlight 2 has more energy in your movement and you feel like you're hitting stuff.

Inventory is way too small in D2 and you have to constantly drop stuff or portal back to town to sell. Torchlight 2 alleviates this with a larger inventory and a pet that you can send back to town to sell stuff with a cooldown. Convenient but balanced and keeps the game at a good pace.

D2 quest system is a little archaic. I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer the quest markers in TL2. If the game tells you exactly where you need to go, that means less time wandering aimlessly and more time cleaving your way through mobs and looting. Which is what you want to be doing more of in this kind of game, not less.

D2 is less suitable for pick up and play/mobile play. When you return to TL2 after some time away, even if you were mid-dungeon last time, you begin right where you left off with a simple quest marker telling you what direction you should start heading towards. But in D2 if you have to quit the game mid-dungeon, too bad. Your ass is getting sent back to town. And you've got to open your quest log to figure out where to go from there. It's just a lot slower to get going.

I think D2 is still a good game. I definitely like it's themes better. Cleansing the land of evil and all that, and the darker tone. And the music is a lot better. But gameplay wise TL2 is the better game. It's got the advantage of over a decade of hindsight and makes a lot of improvements that you can't really ignore. The devs knew what they were doing and I think they improved the formula in lots of ways.

Best game would be D2's graphic style and themes with TL2's gameplay improvements I think.

I understand where you are coming from, but Diablo 2 forces you to make more decisions. I can play D2 vanilla (or one of the now many great mods) all day and I didn't even properly learn it until maybe a few years ago and all of its systems. Torchlight 2 I remember just plowing through while listening to podcasts, utterly bored to tears. Maybe I need to try it again, this was maybe 10 or more years ago. Probably more.

 

[Drakortha]

Torchlight 2 I remember just plowing through while listening to podcasts, utterly bored to tears. Maybe I need to try it again, this was maybe 10 or more years ago. Probably more.

I mean, that's exactly it really. And kind of what I like about this type of game, especially on something like a handheld. It's great if you need to kill 20 minutes on the bus or something. Just pick it up and play from where you left off and easy to get your bearings because of the simplicity of it. It's not exactly something you're going to sit down with and get really deep with it. But maybe it has what you're after as I progress. I'm still only sub level 20 and there's a lot of build variety if the skill trees are anything to go by.