Is it worth playing the Mass Effect trilogy for the 1st time in 2024?

[MadMaxHellfire]

There's a prothean party member now? They've really jumped the shark. Again.

it's actually the only rather decent part of me3, and to no surprise it was part of the full game before they'd realize the mistake and sold it for further squeezing.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

ME3 wasn't all that bad, but it was probably the first time where Bioware made you consume external media to understand the game. Or second, if you consider that the ME2 engame dlc was required to understand why Shepard was suddenly on Earth.

are you really, really, REALLY *STILL* sucking indoctrination theory's absolute retardation? for real?

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

ME3 wasn't all that bad, but it was probably the first time where Bioware made you consume external media to understand the game. Or second, if you consider that the ME2 engame dlc was required to understand why Shepard was suddenly on Earth.

are you really, really, REALLY *STILL* sucking indoctrination theory's absolute retardation? for real?

What?
No, there's an official anime movie that came before ME3 which has the background for many things in 3. Never bothered with that fanfiction you mention.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

holy shit, for a moment here i thought... well, give me a minute, i need to make a phone call before you can use your car again.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

holy shit, for a moment here i thought... well, give me a minute, i need to make a phone call before you can use your car again.

here

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140141/

 

[Skinwalker]

ME2 engame dlc was required to understand why Shepard was suddenly on Earth

Wait, what? I don't remember any such dlc. I just assumed that after he BTFO'd the Collectors, he voluntarily left Cerberus and turned over the Normandy to Starfleet the Alliance.

 

[Drakortha]

There's a prothean party member now? They've really jumped the shark. Again.

it's actually the only rather decent part of me3, and to no surprise it was part of the full game before they'd realize the mistake and sold it for further squeezing.

the african accent ruined it for me. It's bad enough that it spoke in english, but having a strong accent on top of that ruined all suspension of disbelief.

 

[Skinwalker]

There's a prothean party member now? They've really jumped the shark. Again.

it's actually the only rather decent part of me3, and to no surprise it was part of the full game before they'd realize the mistake and sold it for further squeezing.

the african accent ruined it for me. It's bad enough that it spoke in english, but having a strong accent on top of that ruined all suspension of disbelief.

"WE WUZ PRO THE ANZ N SHIEEEEET
PRO THE UHN, LIKE DEM BRO DE ANKH (YANOWHATIMSAYIN?),
WE GOT DA BREAF O' LYFE,
WE BUILT DEM PY RA MEEDZ
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" - ancient Prothean inscription, exact meaning unknown

 

[Iucounu]

ME2 engame dlc was required to understand why Shepard was suddenly on Earth

Wait, what? I don't remember any such dlc. I just assumed that after he BTFO'd the Collectors, he voluntarily left Cerberus and turned over the Normandy to Starfleet the Alliance.

This one: https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Arrival_(assignment)

 

[Skinwalker]

ME2 engame dlc was required to understand why Shepard was suddenly on Earth

Wait, what? I don't remember any such dlc. I just assumed that after he BTFO'd the Collectors, he voluntarily left Cerberus and turned over the Normandy to Starfleet the Alliance.

This one: https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Arrival_(assignment)

Didn't even know it was supposed to be post-main quest. Makes a lot more sense that way, tbh, than Shepard randomly stumbling on a plot to teleport the Reapers into the galaxy via yet another magic mind-controlling device, this one much more secret than the Citadel, and stopping it literally seconds before it succeeds. Actually, nvm, it's retarded no matter what.

Then the Reapers just fly into the galaxy unimpeded about a year later anyway.

 

[Nano]

There's a prothean party member now? They've really jumped the shark. Again.

it's actually the only rather decent part of me3, and to no surprise it was part of the full game before they'd realize the mistake and sold it for further squeezing.

It's not. The concept of unfreezing a Prothean from cryostasis to turn him into Shepard's companion is retarded in the first place, the execution is even shittier. They turned the Protheans into space Africans. How cucked are you, exactly?

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Protheans were mysterious. Ilos was hauntingly beautiful.

All of that is destroyed by making the protheans nigerian-accent bipedal bug organisms just for some *cool* factor in the game. It's not even utilized well, other than first time you go to Citadel where a total of like 3 people notice a new species, no one says anything about a real live fucking Prothean.

 

[Ghost Of Iron]

Narratively, you are all correct that Javik should not have been in the game and his inclusion was a mistake for the overall story, but he's still one of the best companions in the third game by far. Taking him with you to Thessia with Liara is one of the highlights of the entire series, in fact, and is about the one singular time in the entire trilogy that annoying writers pet gets put in her place. He's great in general throughout the game too, I would say the only companion who's as comparably enjoyable to have around is Garrus.

 

[Iucounu]

Narratively, you are all correct that Javik should not have been in the game and his inclusion was a mistake for the overall story, but he's still one of the best companions in the third game by far. Taking him with you to Thessia with Liara is one of the highlights of the entire series, in fact, and is about the one singular time in the entire trilogy that annoying writers pet gets put in her place.

I agree, though it still means they failed at making Liara likeable in the first place (does anyone like Liara?).

Maybe the real genious of Bioware's writers (or any AAA studio really) is being able to create functional games at all out of Management's fickle demands.

 

[Skinwalker]

does anyone like Liara?

No.

 

[Skinwalker]

EDI getting a sexy body and becoming a party member was so predictable, I could see it from a mile away. Geth party member, AI party member, Prothean party member... game's really jumping the shark in this one.

 

[Drakortha]

EDI getting a sexy body and becoming a party member was so predictable, I could see it from a mile away. Geth party member, AI party member, Prothean party member... game's really jumping the shark in this one.

It's really like a new Fallout game that's sure to have Nuka Cola, Super Mutants, Brotherhood of Steel, etc. When something good survives long enough everything becomes brand recognition.

 

[Skinwalker]

I just can't wait for a renegade Reaper party member who joins you because "the Reapers have lost their way" or "I have come to realize that what we are doing is not the way, and organic races have a right to exist blah blah blah".

 

[Iucounu]

EDI getting a sexy body and becoming a party member was so predictable, I could see it from a mile away. Geth party member, AI party member, Prothean party member... game's really jumping the shark in this one.

Don't forget the gay shuttle pilot and lesbian secretary! But it all "makes sense" if the plot is about uniting all species/races/minority groups against the Reaper threat. Liberals against right-wing Cerberus.

I just can't wait for a renegade Reaper party member who joins you because "the Reapers have lost their way" or "I have come to realize that what we are doing is not the way, and organic races have a right to exist blah blah blah".

The closest thing might be Starbrat or the Leviathan DLC, but they're not exact matches.

 

[Silverfish]

I just can't wait for a renegade Reaper party member who joins you because "the Reapers have lost their way" or "I have come to realize that what we are doing is not the way, and organic races have a right to exist blah blah blah".

Sadly, Mass Effect 3 isn't the fun, endearing kind of stupid.

 

[The people of Duckburg]

Legion was fine. Geth were never pure evil, and even the first game hinted that both the geth and AIs in general had more to them than killing all organic life. The examples that come to mind are the random side quest where the geth were listening to some quarian opera, and the newly created AI on the moon begging for help when you shut it down. It's not much, sure, but it was pretty obvious that they were breadcrumbs meant to lead somewhere in the sequels.

The prothean was just insultingly stupid. Bringing one back at all was a mistake, but it could have worked somewhat if it was a wise old guy that could have told you lots about their history and civilization. But no, they retconned him into some bug man specifically because they thought it would be cooler. Absolutely idiotic, and like everything in the sequels it felt like a deliberate attempt to tear down the legacy of the first game. Speaking of which, I recently remembered that they gave you a fucking hard light Assassin's Creed wrist blade. Not only does it look stupid, it makes no sense with the way hard light works in the universe. You either wear special gloves that create the illusion of being able to touch the holograms, or if you're a true hackerman you can go through an operation that implants the tech in your fingers. Simple and sensible sci-fi. Then ME3 came along with its stabby wrist blade.

 

[Iucounu]

ME2 wasn't the bug free accomplishment you so weepily remember. There were a variety of bugs including getting separated from the walk mesh and being stuck floating and unable to move or do anything because of whatever invisible grid they had you moving on.

First time I played it I got stuck in the geometry while walking down a stair, but it only happened that one time. I also recall there's an (intermittent?) bug in Mordin's loyalty mission, so you can't end it?

Spoke too soon there. First a known bug at the end of Kasumi's loyalty mission corrupted both that save, and maybe also Autosaves in subsequent missions, that were labelled as "unknown area" and nonfunctional. Manual saves still worked though. Then another bug in the Overlord DLC corrupted even manual saves: everything seemed to work until next time you start the game, then all saves in the mission are "unknown area".

 

[HumanMaleFighter]

Legion was fine. Geth were never pure evil, and even the first game hinted that both the geth and AIs in general had more to them than killing all organic life. The examples that come to mind are the random side quest where the geth were listening to some quarian opera, and the newly created AI on the moon begging for help when you shut it down. It's not much, sure, but it was pretty obvious that they were breadcrumbs meant to lead somewhere in the sequels.

The prothean was just insultingly stupid. Bringing one back at all was a mistake, but it could have worked somewhat if it was a wise old guy that could have told you lots about their history and civilization. But no, they retconned him into some bug man specifically because they thought it would be cooler. Absolutely idiotic, and like everything in the sequels it felt like a deliberate attempt to tear down the legacy of the first game. Speaking of which, I recently remembered that they gave you a fucking hard light Assassin's Creed wrist blade. Not only does it look stupid, it makes no sense with the way hard light works in the universe. You either wear special gloves that create the illusion of being able to touch the holograms, or if you're a true hackerman you can go through an operation that implants the tech in your fingers. Simple and sensible sci-fi. Then ME3 came along with its stabby wrist blade.

I don't want to give the writers too much undeserved credit, but the way to interpret the Geth in ME2/ME3 is as though they're trying to play both sides of the war. Muh Schism (which made zero sense) isn't real. Instead, what they're doing is hedging their bets in case the Alliance wins. Legion's entire existence -- especially the N7 breastplate he wears, which was never properly explained -- is that of a propaganda operative. "Let me tell you about my poor misunderstood people. Also, I love, admire, and respect you."

What's more, The "Geth Server Mission" in ME3 is a naked propaganda psy-op. There's literally no other way to understand it.

Basically, the Geth are snakes. Extremely manipulative. But if you just take 'em at face value -- which is probably how the writers intended it -- their representation in ME2 and ME3 was the ultimate attempt at tearing down the legacy of the first game.