Review KotOR pimped by PCKiller

[Saint_Proverbius]

Tags: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

<A href="http://www.pckiller.net/">PCKiller</a> gives <A href="Http://www.swkotor.com">Knights of the Old Republic</a> and big, fat <b>10/10</b> in their <A href="http://www.pckiller.net/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=221">review</a> of the title. Here's the standard snippet:
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<blockquote>You play as a character with memory loss, throughout the game you find clues to your past and meet people along the way who can give you answers and set you on to the right path. There is no right or wrong way to play this game--making freedom to do almost anything a real joy.</blockquote>
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Then again, most evil ways seem to end up leading to the good ways anyway, so I guess that's true. Kind of amazing you can screw over an entire planet's economy in the game and there really isn't any backlash from it. You'd think you'd have at least a billion people out to get you for something like that.
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PS. Another reviewer that doesn't know what turn based is.
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Spotted at: <A HREF="http://www.bluesnews.com">Blue's News</A>

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

Half the time I have to wonder if these people even play the game or just read other reviews and decide they need to be part of the 'in-crowd' as well. 10/10? Come on. The game was good, yes, but it was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from perfect. Even when I first started playing it, I would not have given it a 10/10. Maybe a 9.2 or something (and yes VD, that .2 was just for you ). I really honestly cannot think of one game I have played recently that deserves a perfect score (note I said recently ).

 

[Vault Dweller]

Maybe a 9.2 or something (and yes VD, that .2 was just for you ).

Gameplay was turn based; now I know most gamers out there have abandoned the whole turn based theme since the days of Final Fantasy, and Chrono Trigger. I for one loved the idea of the turn based fighting system (mostly because I grew up playing most turn based titles like: Final Fantasy (NES) Lunar (SNES) and Skies of Arcadia (Dreamcast).) Although KOTOR isn't as turn based as most traditional RPG's, it still has those options that will give any nostalgic RPG player a real feel of control over their character actions.

I'm confused. What does "not as turn based as most games" mean? I thought that games are either turn-based or they are not. Oh well...

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

You know, when I read the thing, I kind of thought this review was nothing more than a cut and paste job of other reviews. Here's some examples:

As with any Lucas Arts title you can expect nothing but the best in terms of sound and quality, all the licensed Star Wars music and sound effects are there, it all helps to give you the real atmosphere of the game.

How many reviews have mentioned the quality of LucasArts' games' sound and music?

Gameplay was turn based;

What was it Hitler said about if you repeat a lie often enough?

Then again..

So, you can basically choose how you want to answer questions and talk to people, you can be extremely peaceful or just plain evil, from aiding poor aliens being harassed by racists to helping the racists achieve their plans by murdering the innocent.

I remember the anti-alien bunch, but I sure as hell don't remember being allowed to murder an alien for them. I even told them I supported them and never got anything else from it.

 

[Astromarine]

I hate that last quote. It implies a range of options, while by all accounts you just have the two, one of them being inconsequential

 

[Transcendent One]

I won't even bother disecting this review, cause the idiot almost says something moronic every single paragraph.

 

[Jung]

Didn't ya know that real-time is the new turn-based? :D

 

[Volourn]

KOTOR isn't Rt like you imply either so you made the same mistake the reviewer did... Calling it something that it isn't...

 

[Jung]

KOTOR isn't Rt like you imply either so you made the same mistake the reviewer did... Calling it something that it isn't...

Actually, it could be text based for all I know since I haven't played. Lighten up.

 

[Volourn]

I will if you will. :D

 

[Jed]

No, Volourn, it is RT, it's just really poorly designed and implemented real time.

 

[Volourn]

No, it isn't real time. It's pause n play; 6 second rounds ala the IE games/NWN. Youa re just as bad as the rveiewer is when it comes to assessing games combat systems, i guess. No biggie.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Pause is a feature, not a mode. The mode is RT because no matter how many seconds there are in each time period, things are happening without waiting for you, hence, real time. Duh!

 

[Volourn]

Nope. Sorry.It's not pause that makes it not real time. It's not real time because real time emans things don't "wait" for their tunr. In KOTOR they do. A set amount of atatcks or actions per round no matter how much one clicks makes it not realt time. The fact that there are rounds to begin with illustrates your point. What you are saying that if in POR2 you used the timer option; you'd be playing it Rt because enemies don't wait for you there either. Whatever.

 

[Limorkil]

I guess Morrowind is turn based, since you can pause the action by opening your inventory.

In fact, if the definition of turn-based is:
"Has a pause feature" AND
"Action is divided into segments of time"

Then pretty much every driving game, first-person shooter and other action game is in fact turn-based.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Sorry.It's not pause that makes it not real time. It's not real time because real time emans things don't "wait" for their tunr. In KOTOR they do.

Hmm, so if I stop to think for a minute the enemies would wait for me?

A set amount of atatcks or actions per round no matter how much one clicks makes it not realt time.

Big deal. There are many RT games that use attack speed to promote faster characters. So technically they also measure how many attacks per time unit you can make no matter how fast you click. Still RT though. Even old Diablo had that.

The fact that there are rounds to begin with illustrates your point.

Round is a measure of time, nothing more. TB games are turn-based not because they have rounds but because of how they handle them. Same about phased based-games

Whatever.

Back at you

 

[Volourn]

Always. :wink:

 

[Jed]

Real-time with execution delay?

 

[Volourn]

If it'll make ya happy; that'll suffice.

 

[Anonymous]

KOTOR is phased based
Final Fantasy is Active Turn Based

Someone slap this guy with a videogame dictionary.

 

[Elwro]

Dungeon Siege is Infinitesimal Turn Based.

 

[Jed]

KOTOR is phased based Final Fantasy is Active Turn Based Someone slap this guy with a videogame dictionary.

No, KotOR is plain old RT w/ TEH PAWZE, as far as I can tell. If you just stand there doing nothing, dudes will whack your ass down. See Wiz8 for phase based. I hate phase based, but it's better than RT.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

KOTOR is phased based

This is prettying it up a bit. Real time with pause when you have a standard round time is basically phase based, but only when it comes to attacks. Movement and other things are real time exclusively. You can move at any time in that six seconds. If it were actual phase based, then everything would be chosen at the start of the round.