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Here's another <a href="http://af.gog.com/en/promo/special_rpg?as=1649904300" target="blank">50% off sale at GOG.com</a>, with <b>Sacred Gold</b> and <b>SpellForce Platinum</b> going for $4.99 each and <b>Septerra Core</b> and <b>Stonekeep</b> going for $2.99 each.
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Technically speaking, Septerrra Core is JRPG and it's not great. But no one cares.
Actually, out of four, only Stonekeep is RPG.
 

Zeus

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pipka said:
Technically speaking, Septerrra Core is JRPG

No, technically speaking, it isn't.


Wikipedia:

Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator is a computer role-playing game (CRPG) developed by Valkyrie Studios and published by Monolith Productions.

Valkyire Studios:
The group now known as Valkyrie Studios originally came together at Viacom New Media in 1994 where they achieved success with the release of MTV's Beavis and Butt-Head in Virtual Stupidity. That product won PC Gamer’s "Adventure Game of the Year" award for 1995, and went on to be ranked at #24 in their "Top 50 Best Games Ever" for the years of ’97 and ’98.

The team then began development of a unique role playing game for the PC entitled Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator. Late in the summer of 1997, just as this title was moving into full production, Viacom made the announcement that it was closing down its Chicago development house. Septerra was about to suffer an early demise. The team decided there was only one plan of action: Form a new company, acquire the rights to their game, and find a new publisher…. Valkyrie Studios was born.

Chicago != Tokyo.
 

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Zeus said:
pipka said:
Technically speaking, Septerrra Core is JRPG

No, technically speaking, it isn't.


Wikipedia:

Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator is a computer role-playing game (CRPG) developed by Valkyrie Studios and published by Monolith Productions.

Valkyire Studios:
The group now known as Valkyrie Studios originally came together at Viacom New Media in 1994 where they achieved success with the release of MTV's Beavis and Butt-Head in Virtual Stupidity. That product won PC Gamer’s "Adventure Game of the Year" award for 1995, and went on to be ranked at #24 in their "Top 50 Best Games Ever" for the years of ’97 and ’98.

The team then began development of a unique role playing game for the PC entitled Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator. Late in the summer of 1997, just as this title was moving into full production, Viacom made the announcement that it was closing down its Chicago development house. Septerra was about to suffer an early demise. The team decided there was only one plan of action: Form a new company, acquire the rights to their game, and find a new publisher…. Valkyrie Studios was born.

Chicago != Tokyo.
Dumbfuck.
 

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Zeus

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PorkaMorka said:

That's correct. It's done in the style of a Japanese RPG, but "technically speaking" it's not a JRPG.

Just like Dark Spire is a "Tribute to classic western-style RPGs," but is technically not a WRPG.
 

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Gragt said:
So the genre is only a moniker for where the game was developped, not the influence?

Ah, influence.

If influence is enough to make American-developed games like Planescape: Torment count as "JRPGs," it creates an interesting paradox.

For instance, Dragon Quest was influenced by Wizardry, a WRPG. Hence, by that logic, Dragon Quest is a WRPG.

And if all JRPGs took their influence from Dragon Quest--a 'WRPG'--then, wait for it, all JRPGs are WRPGs.
 

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Not that I care much for JRPG and WRPG, because I find the two terms a bit stupid. I prefer to class a game based on what can be found in it rather than its influences or location of development. I just try to know how you reached that stance.
 

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Gragt said:
Not that I care much for JRPG and WRPG, because I find the two terms a bit stupid. I prefer to class a game based on what can be found in it rather than its influences or location of development. I just try to know how you reached that stance.

I can't take the, "Septerra Core is a JRPG!" people seriously, because if being influenced by something is enough to make you that something, then by that logic Dragon Quest is a WRPG.

"Japanese-style RPG" and "Western-style RPG" are more accurate.
 

PorkaMorka

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We aren't actually talking about influence here.

This isn't one of those retarded "PS:T is a JRPG" discussions.

Septerra Core was literally just a western studio copying the gameplay mechanics (including active time battle) and style of JRPGs at a time when the RPG genre was still pretty impressed with FF7.

Did you ever play it? It's simple copy and paste, not influence.

So it's either a JRPG or a western attempt to make a JRPG styled game. Who cares about semantics (or this game)?
 

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JRPG is a genre, it has nothing to do with where the game was made.

For instance Demon's Souls on the PS3 is NOT a JRPG. It is a western style Hack'n Slash/RPG that just happens to be made in Japan.

Septerra Core IS a JRPG made in USA.
 

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PorkaMorka said:
So it's either a JRPG or a western attempt to make a JRPG styled game. Who cares about semantics (or this game)?

Semantics is important when someone declares Septerra Core is technically a JRPG, because technically it's not. Septerra Core is a JRPG, but technically it's a WRPG.
 

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The strict definition of a JRPG is, and stop me if i'm going to fast for you, a RPG made in Japan. Even if the term JRPG has evolved to mean the mechanics of game, technically speaking it's still not a JRPG if it's not made in Japan. Technically.
 

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Technically, this thread is another bulk of nonsense where people argue about subjective definitions of something (jrpg in this case).
 

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Ah, there's no place like the Codex. I saw the number of replies and thought people were weighing in on the actual games... silly me I should have known it was going to be a dozen posts bickering over semantics.

Anyway, uh, yeah, I got Sacred Gold.
 

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Metro said:
Ah, there's no place like the Codex. I saw the number of replies and thought people were weighing in on the actual games... silly me I should have known it was going to be a dozen posts bickering over semantics.

Anyway, uh, yeah, I got Sacred Gold.

Sacred is horrible shit.

Happy now?
 

Metro

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FeelTheRads said:
Metro said:
Ah, there's no place like the Codex. I saw the number of replies and thought people were weighing in on the actual games... silly me I should have known it was going to be a dozen posts bickering over semantics.

Anyway, uh, yeah, I got Sacred Gold.

Sacred is horrible shit.

Happy now?

I'm actually enjoying it so, yes, I'm happy.
 

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Where does the Sacred 2 expansion fit in then? I think it wasn't even done by the same company. Is it another Forsaken Gods disaster?
 

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HOPELESS MORON said:
SACRED = GOOD GAME

SACRED 2 = DISASTER

I heard good stuff about Sacred 2. Tom Chick was raving about it over on Fidgit a while ago. Sounds pretty cool to me, especially the 100s of quests you can take (rare for a Diablo clone).

Admittedly, I haven't played Sacred 1 yet, so it's probably missing all sorts of things diehards are going to complain about. But what makes it a disaster? Just bugs? 'Cause I can deal with bugs, unless it's something like a broken save system or game ending glitch or something.
 

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