Game News Natives get a spanking in Expeditions: Conquistador

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Tags: Expeditions: Conquistador; Jonas Wæver; Logic Artists

Expeditions: Conquistador, the tactical RPG that started a kickstarter campaign earlier this month, now has some additional gameplay footage to show us. Game designer Jonas Wæver walks us through Conquistador's turn-based combat in a 10 minute battle from an earlier part of the game:

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This is the first substantial update for their Kickstarter campagin. Even though tomorrow will give us an additional combat video, further updates may be a little sparse. From the Kickstarter update:

The reason we haven't done more updates here isn't that we don't care or that we're not excited about your contributions, but simply that we've been completely working our asses off on a press build of the game.

We mean to send this build out to the major gaming news outlets, which will hopefully get us a lot more coverage than our Kickstarter project alone can muster - after all, this Kickstarter is just some nice videos and a lot of promises, but the build is hard evidence that we're making a game with lots of depth, character, and attention to detail. The press build has the intro campaign on Hispaniola with about 4-5 hours of gameplay in total. We've got the main campaign all planned out, so if our Kickstarter is funded, we will produce about 20 hours of further gameplay.​

I'm excited to see whether or not they consider the Codex to be a major gaming news outlet.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Interesting game. I'd like so see more of the units and viabilities of each. Not bad overall.

 

[LibertyRansom]

Looks pretty good. Might pledge more cash if it looks like their hurtin towards the end.

 

[J1M]

Would be nice if doctors did something other than cast a fantasy-esque heal spell. Some wounds could inflict bleeding for example, and the doctor could stop it.

 

[Metro]

King's Bounty: Colonial Imperialism.

 

[InspectorRumpole]

King's Bounty: Colonial Imperialism.

Dude, King's Bounty combat is nothing to scoff at!...but yeah

 

[Surf Solar]

Shame the game isn't sprite based 2d with hand painted backgrounds.

 

[villain of the story]

Looks better than AoD in every way. And has party controls.

 

[Captain Shrek]

 

[Bleffy]

Part 2.

I like what I've seen so far, even decided to exit the closet read-only mode first time in more than 3 years of lurking (registered last year just to look what GD is).

I do not like that "magic" insta-heal (and "magic" revive, although permanent injuries are good things) and exclusive kickstarter/pre-order content. It's not a deal breaker for me, but another suggestion to overlook it. Will pledge anyway.

 

[Marsal]

Looks better than AoD in every way. And has party controls.

Spoiler

Poor VD. You're such a bastard, VotS.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Looks Good, Keep it up.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Looks better than AoD in every way. And has party controls.

Poor VD. You're such a bastard, VotS.

You're trying too hard, Marsal.

 

[Avonaeon]

Looks better than AoD in every way. And has party controls.

Can't we all just get along?

EDIT: Third and final video up:

 

[mbpopolano24]

The placement of barricades is a stroke of genius (I like new ideas). I like this project very much (so far). My only complaint is that they said the whole game would be offering 20-25 hours of gameplay. AoD demo lasted longer. And you cannot compare the two games. Both are great in their own genre. Too bad I don’t like interactive novels.

 

[Marsal]

You're trying too hard, Marsal.

Well at least one of us is. That Thursday is beginning to feel like Friday, bro.

 

[mbpopolano24]

You're trying too hard, Marsal.

Well at least one of us is. That Thursday is beginning to feel like Friday, bro.

Beginning to feel like Friday? Beginning??? After 8-9 years? What a man must do in order to never fulfill a deadline?

In other news, the AoD 'demo' IS the game.

 

[Roguey]

Looks awesome. I do have a question, it looks like all the melee attacks in this battle hit, is there a chance that a melee attack can miss or the opponent dodge it?

@Thomas it's not possible to miss in the melee attacks but if their defence is much higher than your attack, you'll deal very little damage

Need an appropriate emoticon for this, oh here we go

 

[Jonas]

Looks awesome. I do have a question, it looks like all the melee attacks in this battle hit, is there a chance that a melee attack can miss or the opponent dodge it?

@Thomas it's not possible to miss in the melee attacks but if their defence is much higher than your attack, you'll deal very little damage

Need an appropriate emoticon for this, oh here we go

I assume that means you disapprove

Our original prototype for the combat actually had a miss chance for melee attacks, but first of all it's super annoying to miss in melee, more importantly you could create these tanks by putting all your XP and your equipment into one character and then just send him forth, and none of the enemies could hit him because he had so much armour and defence. This way, you may not deal more than 3-6 points of damage with every hit, but that still means a large group of weak enemies can take down a single powerful enemy eventually - you'll never take no damage, you'll never be completely invincible.

There would be other ways to fix that of course - the occasional critical hits could still deal damage, for example. This was just the solution that created the least frustrating gameplay, least dependent on random chance

 

[Marsal]

...it's super annoying to miss in melee...

It's annoying to miss a ranged attack, too. Why not make those always hit?

...the solution that created the least frustrating gameplay, least dependent on random chance

Randomness is frustrating? Why have a damage range on attacks, if that's the case?

 

[Roguey]

more importantly you could create these tanks by putting all your XP and your equipment into one character and then just send him forth, and none of the enemies could hit him because he had so much armour and defence.

Other turn-based games have solved this problem without making every melee attack hit. Why not examine what they did?

This way, you may not deal more than 3-6 points of damage with every hit, but that still means a large group of weak enemies can take down a single powerful enemy eventually - you'll never take no damage, you'll never be completely invincible.

OTOH it sounds like your system will lead to "deferred success" gameplay i.e. you can play as inefficiently as you want but as long as you can survive their punishment long enough you'll be able to win any fight. People will play like this, complain, and drop it.

 

[Johannes]

As long as it's not too easy, I don't see a problem with the method described.

Randomness is not bad, but too much of it definitely is.

 

[almondblight]

If it applies to both sides (which I assume it does) I don't see the problem with it. You know what other game had you never miss? Chess.

 

[EG]

And now for an "accelerated animations" option in the menu.

 

[Pike]

The game looks like it might be a little easy. Doctors heal pretty fast compared to the amount of damage you take from a gunshot. Traps seem a little overpowered too. Do the natives ever use traps? Can they ever spot them or avoid them if you put them in a choke point like in the video? Otherwise I like the game and pledged.