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[Jeff Graw]

DU, is there any Witcher news, anything at all, that you wouldn't give a negative spin to?

 

[slipgate_angel]

Cause this is the codex, and everybody must be negative towards something.

I'm not too worried about The Witcher for consoles, because this can give Console players a chance to play The Witcher, and not miss out on it. Although I am skeptical, because they could dumb the combat down, remove all of the mature content, and just make it into a game that doesn't express The Witcher like the PC version. I'm hoping CD Project doesn't think that all people that own consoles just want simple RPGs, and if I don't get a good PC in time, then I could just try the console version.

 

[aries202]

I'm not too worried about this. CD Project plans to do a proper port to consoles for their game *the witcher*. This is fine with me. I do think there still will be Wicther 2 for the PC - and maybe also a Witcher 2 for consoles. As I've said before, even here, the combat in The Witcher are perfect for consoles, click on A, B or C for the different combat styles.

 

[MetalCraze]

I'm sure CD Projekt would now like to thank all those suckers who bought the inferior PC version. It's your own fault though as you clearly just weren't deserving enough and didn't have the kind of "expectations" console users do.

So it seems CDP just grabbed enough money from all those fags who praised TW as a good rpg when in fact it was a mediocre a-rpg - and immediately jumped onto the console bandwagon dumping that shit Aurora and basically saying "fuck you" to PCfags aka "we were making a better TW which you won't get while feeding you an overhyped patch that fixed nothing"

Hitman 2, Hitman Blood Money. Both far better than Codename 47 which was PC exclusive.

Uh no. Bloodmoney is about the same while Hitman2 was just a dumb shooter. I can't see how it was better than Hitman1.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

I guess this explains why they were willing to put the expense into re-doing the English dialogue/script, at least assuming they keep most of it.

1. Spend money on new script/voice acting
2. Get most/all money back from enhanced PC edition
3. Make even more money by putting game on the console

Nonsense! They did it FOR FREE because they LOVE YOU. It's not like they were re-doing it all anyway for the console version. How can you say that to people who have SHOWN YOU SO MUCH LOVE? You're just a hater.

... but congratulations to all the PC users who paid to be BETA testers for a console game.

I'm sure CD Projekt would now like to thank all those suckers who bought the inferior PC version. It's your own fault though as you clearly just weren't deserving enough and didn't have the kind of "expectations" console users do.

I don't see how a more consolized combat system makes it superior, since that's pretty much what they mean by "expectations".

Yes, it will have better graphics, but that's because it will come out 2 years after the original, so it's to be expected.

You seem to be implying that different combat is all they're doing. It's not:

1. completely redesigned the combat system
2. When asked whether the world design and quests from The Witcher will stay the same, Styliński replied “Not entirely"
3. a new interface
4. redesigned boss battles
5. new music
6. a smattering of new models
7. and a redesigned character development system

"And that hardly exhausts the list of new features". That's a lot more than the Enhanced Edition. Oh and I doubt you'll be getting this one for free.

And nobody got swindled. People who buy a basically broken port like GTA4 get swindled.

If you knew a game you were interested in buying was going to come out with mostly the same story but a whole raft of fixes, oh and that you won't be getting it for free, you wouldn't feel just a little bit peeved off?

Like I've said, any other developer and we'd be talking about the suckers who copped the inferior PC version (like we were in the other thread about those evil developers who made you pay for UT2k4 when it was just UT2k3 in a new box). Would we even be having this conversation if Bethesda had done this for Fallout 3? "Hai guys, we LOVE PCs so here's our game!"... two years later, "now here's the superior console version of the game you've pretty much already played but the graphics are better and we fixed all the interface and combat problems. LOVE US!".

I can't believe Witcher fanbois. CD Projekt release a handful of fixes for "free" (like any company would do in a patch) and they're praised for patching their game. Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port". CD Projekt should just sell an empty box to you guys. I bet you'd praise them for making such an awesome box.

 

[Porta]

I guess this explains why they were willing to put the expense into re-doing the English dialogue/script, at least assuming they keep most of it.

1. Spend money on new script/voice acting
2. Get most/all money back from enhanced PC edition
3. Make even more money by putting game on the console

Nonsense! They did it FOR FREE because they LOVE YOU. It's not like they were re-doing it all anyway for the console version. How can you say that to people who have SHOWN YOU SO MUCH LOVE? You're just a hater.

... but congratulations to all the PC users who paid to be BETA testers for a console game.

I'm sure CD Projekt would now like to thank all those suckers who bought the inferior PC version. It's your own fault though as you clearly just weren't deserving enough and didn't have the kind of "expectations" console users do.

I don't see how a more consolized combat system makes it superior, since that's pretty much what they mean by "expectations".

Yes, it will have better graphics, but that's because it will come out 2 years after the original, so it's to be expected.

You seem to be implying that different combat is all they're doing. It's not:

1. completely redesigned the combat system
2. When asked whether the world design and quests from The Witcher will stay the same, Styliński replied “Not entirely"
3. a new interface
4. redesigned boss battles
5. new music
6. a smattering of new models
7. and a redesigned character development system

"And that hardly exhausts the list of new features". That's a lot more than the Enhanced Edition. Oh and I doubt you'll be getting this one for free.

And nobody got swindled. People who buy a basically broken port like GTA4 get swindled.

If you knew a game you were interested in buying was going to come out with mostly the same story but a whole raft of fixes, oh and that you won't be getting it for free, you wouldn't feel just a little bit peeved off?

Like I've said, any other developer and we'd be talking about the suckers who copped the inferior PC version (like we were in the other thread about those evil developers who made you pay for UT2k4 when it was just UT2k3 in a new box). Would we even be having this conversation if Bethesda had done this for Fallout 3? "Hai guys, we LOVE PCs so here's our game!"... two years later, "now here's the superior console version of the game you've pretty much already played but the graphics are better and we fixed all the interface and combat problems. LOVE US!".

I can't believe Witcher fanbois. CD Projekt release a handful of fixes for "free" (like any company would do in a patch) and they're praised for patching their game. Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port". CD Projekt should just sell an empty box to you guys. I bet you'd praise them for making such an awesome box.

 

[ushdugery]

your reply doesn't work what's the picture of?

 

[pkt-zer0]

*snip*

You forgot to complain about the bare-chested Geralt model being exclusive to the console version. Other fangirls have decided never to buy a CDP game again based on that alone.

 

[The Ticktockman]

I guess this explains why they were willing to put the expense into re-doing the English dialogue/script, at least assuming they keep most of it.

1. Spend money on new script/voice acting
2. Get most/all money back from enhanced PC edition
3. Make even more money by putting game on the console

Nonsense! They did it FOR FREE because they LOVE YOU. It's not like they were re-doing it all anyway for the console version. How can you say that to people who have SHOWN YOU SO MUCH LOVE? You're just a hater.

... but congratulations to all the PC users who paid to be BETA testers for a console game.

I'm sure CD Projekt would now like to thank all those suckers who bought the inferior PC version. It's your own fault though as you clearly just weren't deserving enough and didn't have the kind of "expectations" console users do.

I don't see how a more consolized combat system makes it superior, since that's pretty much what they mean by "expectations".

Yes, it will have better graphics, but that's because it will come out 2 years after the original, so it's to be expected.

You seem to be implying that different combat is all they're doing. It's not:

1. completely redesigned the combat system
2. When asked whether the world design and quests from The Witcher will stay the same, Styliński replied “Not entirely"
3. a new interface
4. redesigned boss battles
5. new music
6. a smattering of new models
7. and a redesigned character development system

"And that hardly exhausts the list of new features". That's a lot more than the Enhanced Edition. Oh and I doubt you'll be getting this one for free.

And nobody got swindled. People who buy a basically broken port like GTA4 get swindled.

If you knew a game you were interested in buying was going to come out with mostly the same story but a whole raft of fixes, oh and that you won't be getting it for free, you wouldn't feel just a little bit peeved off?

Like I've said, any other developer and we'd be talking about the suckers who copped the inferior PC version (like we were in the other thread about those evil developers who made you pay for UT2k4 when it was just UT2k3 in a new box). Would we even be having this conversation if Bethesda had done this for Fallout 3? "Hai guys, we LOVE PCs so here's our game!"... two years later, "now here's the superior console version of the game you've pretty much already played but the graphics are better and we fixed all the interface and combat problems. LOVE US!".

I can't believe Witcher fanbois. CD Projekt release a handful of fixes for "free" (like any company would do in a patch) and they're praised for patching their game. Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port". CD Projekt should just sell an empty box to you guys. I bet you'd praise them for making such an awesome box.

The Witcher really brings out DU's inner skyway.

 

[Gragt]

I wonder if they'll restore the scene where Triss gives a blowjob to Geralt for the console version.

 

[Shannow]

If you knew a game you were interested in buying was going to come out with mostly the same story but a whole raft of fixes, oh and that you won't be getting it for free, you wouldn't feel just a little bit peeved off?

Like I've said, any other developer and we'd be talking about the suckers who copped the inferior PC version (like we were in the other thread about those evil developers who made you pay for UT2k4 when it was just UT2k3 in a new box). Would we even be having this conversation if Bethesda had done this for Fallout 3? "Hai guys, we LOVE PCs so here's our game!"... two years later, "now here's the superior console version of the game you've pretty much already played but the graphics are better and we fixed all the interface and combat problems. LOVE US!".

I can't believe Witcher fanbois. CD Projekt release a handful of fixes for "free" (like any company would do in a patch) and they're praised for patching their game. Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port". CD Projekt should just sell an empty box to you guys. I bet you'd praise them for making such an awesome box.

In fact, TW is going to be my next purchase and the console port has no impact on that whatsoever.
UT2k3 --> UT2k4 = TW --> TWEE , no? Or why did you bring this up? One dev made "us" (I only bought UT2k4) pay "twice" the other made it for free, without an established fan-community demanding it... And you really wonder why one is bashed while the other is "praised" (quite a few aren't praising, you're proof of that).
Then you whine about the console version being a superior version (how do you know that?) but the EE was only a simple patch. Yeah, right.
Beth and Bioware started as console versions and ported to the PC without much consideration for pc-player's wants and expectations. And you are comparing this to CDP who at least claim to take console-tard's wants and expectations into account? Seriously, I've nearly always been on your side but your TW-hate simply baffles me.
The last part of your argument is so bad I wonder if skyway, TWD, warden and their retarded little brothers helped you with that.

Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port".

Now read that again. How stupid does that make you feel? If you feel like you are on the same level as a retarded stone you might be overestimating yourself.
A company ports a game to another platform and expects people who want to play it on said platform to pay for it. Completely different from any other port that was ever made by any other company. To quote VD: the mind boggles.
Seriously, your claim the EE would start devs releasing buggy games and patching afterwards(when that has sadly been that way for years) made more sense than this.

 

[Wyrmlord]

Uh no. Bloodmoney is about the same while Hitman2 was just a dumb shooter. I can't see how it was better than Hitman1.

You are the first person in the universe who has said that Hitman 1 is better than 2. :shock:

 

[MetalCraze]

Really? There were many complaints about Hitman2 having too many dumb shooter moments - even levels - where you were forced to shoot enemies and do nothing else. Also Hitman2 is very easy to complete by just going on a killing spree while in Hitman1 you will get your ass handled to you for that. Like in a good stealth shooter you know.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

UT2k3 --> UT2k4 = TW --> TWEE , no? Or why did you bring this up?

In one of the other threads about this, someone raised the point that CD Projekt were awesome because they didn't make you pay for the patch. UT2k3 was used as an example. UT2k4 came out a year later and you had to pay for it, even though there was little difference between the two games. Now CD Projekt are making you pay for the enhanced version (with some pretty big differences) only it'll be on consoles so PC gamers get to miss out (and after all that talk about how much they love PCs too...).

One dev made "us" (I only bought UT2k4) pay "twice" the other made it for free, without an established fan-community demanding it...

You're kidding me right? Pretty much everything that was "fixed" in the EE patch was asked for. Everything that's being fixed in the console version (better combat, interface etc...) was also asked for and are items that were criticised in the original Witcher (and Witcher EE).

Then you whine about the console version being a superior version (how do you know that?) but the EE was only a simple patch. Yeah, right.

Console Version:

1. Re-translated dialogues as seen in EE patch
2. completely redesigned the combat system ("more immersive")
3. Modified world design and quests
4. a new interface
5. redesigned boss battles
6. new music
7. a smattering of new models
8. new and smoother combat animations
9. a redesigned character development system
10. and the promise of more

Of those, 2 were in the EE. That is some new character models and the better translation. Two things that don't really change much. A whole new game engine is a major and significant change. And I have no doubt the completely new engine will bring even better load times.

Beth and Bioware started as console versions and ported to the PC without much consideration for pc-player's wants and expectations. And you are comparing this to CDP who at least claim to take console-tard's wants and expectations into account?

There's a significant difference between making a few interface changes so something on the console works properly for a console (or vice-versa for the PC) compared with "completely re-building the game from scratch" in every aspect other than the story. You really don't think the console version will be the better version? You think CD Projekt are going to fuck it up that badly?

Then they announce they're re-doing the entire game and it won't be for free... and they're praised for doing a "proper port".

Now read that again. How stupid does that make you feel? If you feel like you are on the same level as a retarded stone you might be overestimating yourself.
A company ports a game to another platform and expects people who want to play it on said platform to pay for it. Completely different from any other port that was ever made by any other company. To quote VD: the mind boggles.
Seriously, your claim the EE would start devs releasing buggy games and patching afterwards(when that has sadly been that way for years) made more sense than this.

Of course I expect people to pay for it. That's not the issue. The issue is, if you have a console and a PC, don't you think you have a choice between buying a game for one or the other? So if a game comes out (the same game) on one system and it's got a whole bunch of improvements that it doesn't have on the other, don't you want to buy the best version? This is above and beyond a proper port. This is them going back and fixing all the things that have been criticised in the original game.

Good on them for it. It's great but gee, I wish they'd told me so I didn't have to feel like I've been screwed because I bought the shitty version (which incidentally, funded the console version). Why couldn't I have been told so I could make the choice? "Hmmm.. This one's got 'more immersive' combat, better graphics, better animations and that one doesn't... Which one will I buy?" Especially when they've been working on it before they even announced the EE (and probably even sooner). The fact remains that if you bought The Witcher PC version, you got the inferior product and if you want the best version of The Witcher, you're going to have to pay for it again.

 

[hiver]

Youre overreacting a bit.

 

[hiver]

edit- clicked by accident
delit plis

 

[racofer]

edit- clicked by accident
delit plis

Lol so innocent.

 

[hiver]

:hiver sticks a needle in racofers eye:

Ach, stick it up yer trakkans!!!

 

[Ravn7]

congratulations to all the PC users who paid to be BETA testers for a console game.

There will never be a game that everybody has to like. I respect your opinions and usually agree with them. But sometimes you write things that don't make any sense.

1. Don't you know that new engine will require new beta testing? Do you think it will be compatible with Aurora and Djinni editor? Only the story and VOs will remain.
2. Why do you keep calling combat designed specifically for console players better? If you like this kind of gameplay, maybe you should play some MK vs DC shit. I suspect that "improved" graphics will be oh so fucking colorful and glow would make my eyes bleed. Also, interface will be made for consoles (like in ME/KOTOR). Do you really think you'd enjoy this game? I'm sure I couldn't even play it.

You complain they hyped EE so much. It's just commercial. In modern world you're not selling anything without it. Especially since Atari screwed it up. My friend moved to England, to work there. Two weeks after the release of first version, she was in few shops with games. There wasn't even a single poster and sellers said they hadn't even heard about the Witcher. I know, they are morons but they heard about CoD4 of course. Even VD is trying to hype their game (the way he can). And he's doing the right thing. He may hype every single patch! They need money to make more games!

CDP said they probobaly wouldn't earn any money for TW, and they understand it's frustrating for Atari but they plan to start earning with next releases of The Witcher franchise. And they had to be pretty persuasive to get millions of bucks from dying publisher.

Also, their strategy was to gain confidence and respect of customers. Partialy by supporting their game and making it better for a long time. Now they want to make the game good for console players. And that's what every smart developer would do.

For now, they gained my confidance (yes, I got EE for free; and yes, TW was bugged like hell but it's their first game, maybe next time will be better). We'll wait and see what's gonna happen next. If they screw it up, I'll piss on them myself. Just like I piss on every fucking goverment in Poland 'cause every time they're liars, bastards, thieves and whores.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The 'redesigned boss fights' will probably just have their difficulty lowered by 300% and require two sword hits to accomplish. I still shiver everytime I think about the Gamespot forum and its threads.

'HOW DO I DEFEATED TEH STRIGA??????'
'OMG STUPID KIKIMORE QUEEN IS BEATING THE HELL OUT OF ME, HALP'
'WTF CAN'T KILL THE KOSHCHEY, SOME1 HLEP'

 

[MetalCraze]

I like TW fanboy way of thinking:

CDP is good for making the game and releasing patches for it because other devs totally don't release free patches oh no - yet CDP will surely fuck up console TW and it will suck for sho because CDP is that bad!

Or is it just a denial and TW fanbois don't want to acknowledge that they were raped with hype, beta-tested an incomplete game, raped with hype over a simple patch again and now won't get the real patch that will indeed fix something for free and even will be forced to buy xbawks so they will be able to buy the same game again.
Probably that will finally teach people to have higher standards when it comes to mediocrity that is games like TW and lazy devs that don't know what QA means (of course not)

 

[Ravn7]

TW fanboy

I haven't said I liked it.

CDP is good for making the game and releasing patches for it because other devs totally don't release free patches

Can you read at all? I think that if you could you should know by now that this is a little more then just a patch and every developer should be praised for doing more then simply fixing bugs because it doesn't happen very often.

raped with hype

Have you ever been raped with hype? I haven't and I've always thought that it's impossible.

won't get the real patch that will indeed fix something

If you could read, you'd notice my question: "why do you keep calling combat designed specifically for console players better?" and that could lead you to try to tell what exactly will make the game better and superior RPG when it gets consolized.

will be forced to buy xbawks

right...

Probably that will finally teach people to have higher standards when it comes to mediocrity

What?!

 

[Darth Roxor]

What?!

Skyway seems to believe that every person on the planet gives a shit about TW being ported to consoles and is now smoldering with RAEG!1

 

[MetalCraze]

Who is Soul and why does he think that I was referring to him?

 

[hiver]

I have no idea who the hell is anyone here.
thats even weirder.