Are The Elder Scrolls: Battlespire and Redguard worth a shit

[Forest Dweller]

 

[Zed]

no, you should wait for 11-11-11

 

[ScottishMartialArts]

Battlespire is kind of interesting. Sort of a buggy and unpolished version of Ultima Underworld than never quite comes together. I haven't ever finished it, but it's worth torrenting and checking out. Brutally difficult though, as health and mana can only be recovered through FPS style powerups which are oh so rare.

I haven't played Redguard but my understanding is that it's a buggy and unpolished version of Tomb Raider that never quite comes together. There are some more traditional adventure game elements to it than TR, though.

 

[Twinkle]

Kinda curious about Redguard myself. Is it playable at all on modern systems?

 

[Crooked Bee]

Battlespire was a p. nice and p. challenging dungeon crawl with some great dungeons. Recommended.

 

[JarlFrank]

I enjoyed Battlespire, good crawler. Always wanted to try Redguard but I read it's a bitch to get running on XP (not to mention Win7 or Vista). Someone really has to develop Win98Box

 

[Luzur]

are you selling or just wanting to try?

 

[Sceptic]

Battlespire is kind of interesting. Sort of a buggy and unpolished version of Ultima Underworld

Huh? don't remember a single bug in Battlespire. In fact it was quite a shocker to be playing a Bethesda game that wasn't terminally bugged even after a half dozen patches. I agree that it doesn't really come together the way UW did, but it's a very nice game in its own right, provided you don't try to compare it to Daggerfall. It's a good single dungeon crawl thanks to excellent dungeon design, a robust character system (stripped down from DF, but still good) and the best and most complex character creation system I've seen in a solo RPG. While it's hard to remember this today, it was also absolutely stunning graphically when it came out. It's also fun to compare it to Oblivion, which shares many of the same plot premises (Dagon, daedric lore, and so on) and see just how low Bethesda have sunk.

Brutally difficult though

I remember playing it years after it came out, when the decline in difficulty had already set, opening a door in the starting room and being raped by a dremora.

I haven't played Redguard but my understanding is that it's a buggy and unpolished version of Tomb Raider

Huh? again, this is Bethesda's second most polished game (it's got a couple more glitches than Battlespire, but otherwise clean). It's also so much better than TR it's not even funny. Open world for one, with a large amount of nonlinearity in the MQ and exploration rewarded with extra goodies, quite nicely balanced at the halfway point between action and adventure (as opposed to TR, which leaned heavily towards action), and a badass nigger as a protagonist. Pretty good soundtrack too (though I prefer Battlespire's; that one was awesome).

Always wanted to try Redguard but I read it's a bitch to get running on XP (not to mention Win7 or Vista). Someone really has to develop Win98Box

Redguard's a pure DOS game actually, only the installer is Windows (and that works under XP, probably under 7 too). You just need a DOSBox with Glide support to fully enjoy the engine in all its glory. Get this one (best DOSBox SVN build around). Only problem with Redguard under DB is that it needs a MONSTER PC to run well. Also, don't go over 1024x768 res, as higher ones will mess up some things (such as the very nice loading screens)

are you selling or just wanting to try?

Leave something to the others you greedy bastard

 

[Luzur]

nah, i already have them so i dont need them anymore.

although some extras can come in handy...

 

[markec]

For me personally Battlespire is the best TES game, great atmosphere and soundtrack, interesting story and challenging combat made it more fun then any other Bethesda game.

 

[OndrejSc]

 

[Fargus]

Pre-Skyrim thread, huh? That's some high grade necromancy.

 

[markec]

I have only watched the conclusion segment and have several issues with what he is saying.

"Only useful thing dialog with monsters is to make them run around for few seconds." This is referring to intimidating the Scamps on first level.

This is not true, at first level alone you can kill one Dremora, take his armor and pretend to Vermais (dumb but strong monsters) that you are their handler. On one level there are lots of Fire and Ice Deadras that dislike each others and you can get items from them if you promise to kill others. And you can get information for progression and secrets from multiple enemies during the entire game.

He is also saying that game forces you to very specialized build with hand to hand and restoration skills and thats its not worth playing without them while I finished the game without either of them.