Avowed character creation has pronouns - Elon Musk disapproves, Obsidian art director disapproves of his disapproval

[Camel]

I don't care too much about romances either way, but claiming that having romances is what makes a game woke is silly.

It is what allows a game to be "almost on the same level of degeneracy as BG3" (fucking the bear)

Tell us how romances allowed the Witcher 1 and KCD to be "almost on the same level of degeneracy as BG3" (fucking the bear)".

 

[Infinitron]

I don't care too much about romances either way, but claiming that having romances is what makes a game woke is silly.

It is what allows a game to be "almost on the same level of degeneracy as BG3" (fucking the bear)

Tell us how romances allowed the Witcher 1 and KCD to be "almost on the same level of degeneracy as BG3" (fucking the bear)".

Strange logic. I'm saying that your game can't be as degenerate as BG3 if it doesn't have player romances/sex. It doesn't follow that any game with romances will be as degenerate as BG3.

And yes, Heroic Liberator, if a game doesn't have companions at all, then it also can't be degenerate like BG3. We judge games by what's there, not by what the writers maybe could have done or wanted to do. "Maybe that amputee could have been an Olympic marathon runner!"

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And yes, Heroic Liberator, if your game doesn't have companions at all, then at also can't be as degenerate as BG3.

You're missing the point. As long as there is ample narrative writing, regardless of the form it takes (e.g. companions, romances etc.), the sort of woke shit that fills the game is ultimately a product of the writing and not of the mechanics. Would BG3 have been any less degenerate if the whole bear sex nonsense was something that played out between two NPCs rather than between the PC and a companion? Personally I'd say no.

 

[Roguey]

Why though? Why are they trying to hide that?

They weren't, this is just clickbait.

Baldur's Gate 3, which sold tens of millions, had pronouns and a nonbinary option. Most people don't care.

Oh no, it has the same option as one of the best selling RPGs in recent history. Zzzzzzzzzz

 

[Dark Souls II]

Pillars 2 and Outer Worlds were already woke as hell

I don't remember PoE2 being woke. It was shit, it was one of the worst role-playing RPG games that I've ever played in my life, it had a terrible story & writing all along, but I'm rather sure all of that was due to the developers being retarded, incompetent & untalented, as opposed to them being eager to please the DEI gods.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I don't remember PoE2 being woke.

I agree. Didn't strike me as particularly woke either, unlike TOW. Which is not to say that it didn't have its fair share of cringe characters, but yeah.

 

[jackofshadows]

Baldur's Gate 3, which sold tens of millions, had pronouns and a nonbinary option. Most people don't care.

There was a similar story, wasn't it? No pronouns bs in the EA version but then boom - it appears in the release one. I wonder about the pre-prelease journo one but they wouldn't disclose that anyways.

I agree. Didn't strike me as particularly woke either, unlike TOW.

There were pansexual companions which is something in itself, strong if somewhat obfuscated anti-colonialism agenda and plenty of soy in general but yea it still wasn't as bad as TOW with all the fucking dykes and other sheit (troglodykes as the new term goes lul).

 

[Roguey]

I don't remember PoE2 being woke. It was shit, it was one of the worst role-playing RPG games that I've ever played in my life, it had a terrible story & writing all along, but I'm rather sure all of that was due to the developers being retarded, incompetent & untalented, as opposed to them being eager to please the DEI gods.

Deadfire was a bit too libtarded in its approach to homosexuality which felt a bit too 21st century. They hand-waved it a bit.

All these devs are liberal. As Tim Cain says, wokeness didn't start yesterday. Their values change with the times.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

strong if somewhat obfuscated anti-colonialism agenda

I think that they did a pretty good job of providing varied factions that all had their pluses and minuses. And the native faction aren't the objectively good guys since you can't really change their backwater system even if you side with them, only at most have their backwards tribal monarchy give some more alms to the poor in the capital. Meanwhile monocled RDC replaces their mudhuts with longhouses, stops Vailian predation in the region and integrates them within Rauatai as equal citizens of a common Aumaua heritage.

 

[Roguey]

No pronouns bs in the EA version but then boom - it appears in the release one.

They patched it into the EA version about a year before release, the queers had a celebration over it https://gaymingmag.com/2022/12/baldurs-gate-3-adds-non-binary-option/

 

[Heroic Liberator]

>gaymingmag

 

[Butter]

You have to be asleep (understandable affliction when playing Pillars) to miss every faction being a variation of "incompetent man vs much more competent wombyn".

 

[Vulpes]

It's been years since I played Shittard of Eternity 2, but I'm pretty sure the good ending for the blackwashed Venetian faction required you to side with the ambitious visionary instead of the cutthroat businesswoman.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You have to be asleep (understandable affliction when playing Pillars) to miss every faction being a variation of "incompetent man vs much more competent wombyn".

That only really applies to the natives and the Vailians. Meanwhile the RDC, while female-led, has an equally competent subordinate (and you don't get to pick and choose one over the other) while the Principi are led by a competent guy and he's the better choice for the faction compared to the shortsighted strong womyn pirate. I do agree that it would've been better for the trope not to be present at all though.

It's been years since I played Shittard of Eternity 2, but I'm pretty sure the good ending for the blackwashed Venetian faction required you to side with the ambitious visionary instead of the cutthroat businesswoman.

Might be the case. Never played with that faction since I find them the least likeable.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I liked Maia and both Eder and Pallegina were ok from the returning cast. Xoti was meh, Tekehu and the pirate were cringe. Aloth as a character was ok, but his companion quest was cringe.

 

[Orange Clock]

Why though? Why are they trying to hide that? Pillars 2 and Outer Worlds were already woke as hell almost on the same level of degeneracy as BG3. Everyone knows that nuObsidian got nothing to do with old based Obsidian and is just another company that makes slop for "gaypass modern audience".

What “old based” obsidian are you talking about? Was it the one who put a first gay marriage in a game? The one who pushed all this crap about force being evil? Maybe the one who gave you 8 companions of which two were gays, one was a tranny-granny mutant and another an alcoholic whore? Or was it a dark fantasy Bronze Age setting where “EVIL” had won?

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Morgoth]

Fedora posts a picture of women and likes to think he has reached a new level of masculinity.

 

[0sacred]

"women''

 

[Fedora Master]

These female devs always look the same and there's always at least one land whale.

 

[Morgoth]

The weak man thinks that the more he debases women, the manlier he becomes.

 

[chupachups]

at least one land whale.

Ah, the "funny", slutty ones that bring the team together and despise the filthy, insensible pigs called men.

 

[Kem0sabe]

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I bet they all hate the ginger with the crazy eyes on the lower left corner. Ugly women despise all beauty.

 

[Fedora Master]

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I bet they all hate the ginger with the crazy eyes on the lower left corner. Ugly women despise all beauty.

Obviously they all hate each other but pretend not to.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The weak man thinks that the more he debases women, the manlier he becomes.

Bold of you to assume they are women.