Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting

[Morgoth]

Trump's election sealed a certain social movement. And by the word "movement" I mean the widely shared feeling that leftist ideology is exerting enormous pressure on social life. The entire beginning of Trump's candidacy is no longer about pseudo-Reaganism, but about showing "look, I've exceeded your expectations!" Wide, although not full, acceptance of actions such as the exclusion of trans people from women's sports shows not only the need for such figures, but also that they can act. Not everyone likes it, etc., but for now we are moving away from woke. I don't know for how long, but today - yes.


So yes, games and the discussion around them show what is happening in the world.

The only people capable of exterting enormous pressure on social life are billionaires - they then chose leftists as their scapegoats to keep you distracted and disempowered.

Oh and I believe you that Trump can act, just in a really bad way. Looking at his models, such as Hungary or Russia, you can clearly see where the journey will end. Have fun with that.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

They literally throw up their arms as soon as they face implementation challenges nowadays, as admitted by both Sawyer and Cain.

Obsidian spent two years trying to make Skyrim happen when they should have ended that excursion much sooner.

btw sawyer has an entire talk about the importance of UCD but i couldn't find it on YT anymore.

i don't care about what they tried to do, i care about what they put out, and their statements about how they don't know how to do anything.

"We don't know how to do fun minigames, so we don't do them"
"We don't know how to do companion romances, so we don't do them"
"I've lost touch with how to make RPGs for the core audience, if I ever knew how", or something to that effect
"People throw temper tantrums when you try to hold them accountable for features"
All things stated by either Cain or Sawyer.

 

[Roguey]

"We don't know how to do fun minigames, so we don't do them"
"We don't know how to do companion romances, so we don't do them"

Sounds like the correct approach. You want to endure the shitty minigames we had to put up with in the 00s/10s? Annoying/box-ticking romances?

 

[Fedora Master]

They literally throw up their arms as soon as they face implementation challenges nowadays, as admitted by both Sawyer and Cain.

Obsidian spent two years trying to make Skyrim happen when they should have ended that excursion much sooner.

btw sawyer has an entire talk about the importance of UCD but i couldn't find it on YT anymore.

i don't care about what they tried to do, i care about what they put out, and their statements about how they don't know how to do anything.

"We don't know how to do fun minigames, so we don't do them"
"We don't know how to do companion romances, so we don't do them"
"I've lost touch with how to make RPGs for the core audience, if I ever knew how", or something to that effect
"People throw temper tantrums when you try to hold them accountable for features"
All things stated by either Cain or Sawyer.

If only they came to the logical conclusion of "We don't know how to make good games"

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

"We don't know how to do fun minigames, so we don't do them"
"We don't know how to do companion romances, so we don't do them"

Sounds like the correct approach. You want to endure the shitty minigames we had to put up with in the 00s/10s? Annoying/box-ticking romances?

What is the actual point you're trying to make? That Obsidian makes great RPGs and that Avowed is one of them?

 

[luj1]

Morgoth is the proof why you shouldn't electrocute children with high voltages

 

[Camel]

The guy posting in 2008.

When was the last time Obsidian made a good game? Seriously.

 

[Roguey]

What is the actual point you're trying to make? That Obsidian makes great RPGs and that Avowed is one of them?

A number of people seem to be enjoying the combat and exploration.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

The only people capable of exterting enormous pressure on social life are billionaires - they then chose leftists as their scapegoats to keep you distracted and disempowered.

Society is never divided into people with power and people without power. Therefore, even the powerful must fear the crowd. Why do you think Trump won? Because he was allowed to. Why was he allowed? Because the powerful corrected their course, fearing the contradictions that would tear the plebs apart.

Oh and I believe you that Trump can act, just in a really bad way. Looking at his models, such as Hungary or Russia, you can clearly see where the journey will end. Have fun with that.

I'm not an American, so he's not my president. My purpose was only to demonstrate that the American people elected him (with the permission of the real rulers of this country) because that is the general social dynamic. At least today.
Because Avowed, as a game of the Biden era, may also show something else (we will evaluate it in a few years) - the burnout of a certain cultural model, and its tolerance today, is the result of the proximity of this period.

If that's the case, I'd really like to see Vavra try to pose as Chud again during the KC3 premiere :D

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

What is the actual point you're trying to make? That Obsidian makes great RPGs and that Avowed is one of them?

A number of people seem to be enjoying the combat and exploration.

Mate some people enjoy inserting metal rods down their urethra.

 

[Litmanen]

Stop being part of the problem.

The problem is that this board is increasingly made of material that's been recycled wholesale from /v/.

Pretty soon the only person actually talking about playing games will be ol'willy posting his builds in the underrail thread.

The rest will be people using Grok to try and figure out how light a shade of purple can be before it becomes woke.

Maybe stop releasing shitty woke ass games and we will play them, yes?

Nobody is forcing you to play a fucking game. These are not your games. These are their games, and they put whatever the fuck they want in them. If you don’t like it, don’t play it, but also stop pissing off those who just want to hear about the game from people who actually play it. Take your fucking political battles to your own drama thread, not in a thread dedicated to a game you won’t even play.

These are not your games. Even if the problem were the politicization of games (which it isn’t), they’re doing it with the games they pay for and create. If you’re not interested, go play your fucking games that you actually like and stop filling a thread with your bullshit and that of idiots like you.

That's an incredibly retarded argument that would make any kind of criticism for any kind of medium moot.

You can criticize whatever the fuck you want. But we’re talking about games here, and before criticizing them, you should at least try them or, at the very least, make critiques that are actually relevant to the game in question: well-founded, serious, and properly argued critiques.

Not just endlessly repeating the same points in every thread, on loop, without a shred of critical thinking or common sense.

You're absolutely free to criticize Avowed and say it’s shit. I, for one, already have a feeling it won’t be the game of my dreams. But I’m not here trashing it without ever having played it, nor am I blindly praising it. I’m just following the thread, and I’d actually like to read balanced, serious, and well-reasoned opinions.

Not endless rants from idiots about how purple is somehow gayer than red.

Are you French? I just want to know.

Are you idiot?

Don't answer, I know.

 

[Morgoth]

The only people capable of exterting enormous pressure on social life are billionaires - they then chose leftists as their scapegoats to keep you distracted and disempowered.

Society is never divided into people with power and people without power. Therefore, even the powerful must fear the crowd. Why do you think Trump won? Because he was allowed to. Why was he allowed? Because the powerful corrected their course, fearing the contradictions that would tear the plebs apart.

Oh and I believe you that Trump can act, just in a really bad way. Looking at his models, such as Hungary or Russia, you can clearly see where the journey will end. Have fun with that.

I'm not an American, so he's not my president. My purpose was only to demonstrate that the American people elected him (with the permission of the real rulers of this country) because that is the general social dynamic. At least today.
Because Avowed, as a game of the Biden era, may also show something else (we will evaluate it in a few years) - the burnout of a certain cultural model, and its tolerance today, is the result of the proximity of this period.

If that's the case, I'd really like to see Vavra try to pose as Chud again during the KC3 premiere :D

The powerful these days are mostly anxious about their mortality. They are massive fear spreaders, and it all trickles down to society through X.

Why do I think Trump won? Because the Democrats mostly did badly, not because the Trump electorate expanded.

You're losing me about Avowed being tied to the Biden era. That's a bit far fetched, no?

 

[Brickfrog]

You're losing me about Avowed being tied to the Biden era. That's a bit far fetched, no?

Don't you remember when Trump put an end to woke video games the first time around?

 

[Mikeal]

Stop being part of the problem.

The problem is that this board is increasingly made of material that's been recycled wholesale from /v/.

Pretty soon the only person actually talking about playing games will be ol'willy posting his builds in the underrail thread.

The rest will be people using Grok to try and figure out how light a shade of purple can be before it becomes woke.

Maybe stop releasing shitty woke ass games and we will play them, yes?

Nobody is forcing you to play a fucking game. These are not your games. These are their games, and they put whatever the fuck they want in them. If you don’t like it, don’t play it, but also stop pissing off those who just want to hear about the game from people who actually play it. Take your fucking political battles to your own drama thread, not in a thread dedicated to a game you won’t even play.

These are not your games. Even if the problem were the politicization of games (which it isn’t), they’re doing it with the games they pay for and create. If you’re not interested, go play your fucking games that you actually like and stop filling a thread with your bullshit and that of idiots like you.

There are their games, these are not your games until they flopped hard as fuck then suddenly everyone start crying why white men aren't buying them.

 

[Litmanen]

Stop being part of the problem.

The problem is that this board is increasingly made of material that's been recycled wholesale from /v/.

Pretty soon the only person actually talking about playing games will be ol'willy posting his builds in the underrail thread.

The rest will be people using Grok to try and figure out how light a shade of purple can be before it becomes woke.

Maybe stop releasing shitty woke ass games and we will play them, yes?

Nobody is forcing you to play a fucking game. These are not your games. These are their games, and they put whatever the fuck they want in them. If you don’t like it, don’t play it, but also stop pissing off those who just want to hear about the game from people who actually play it. Take your fucking political battles to your own drama thread, not in a thread dedicated to a game you won’t even play.

These are not your games. Even if the problem were the politicization of games (which it isn’t), they’re doing it with the games they pay for and create. If you’re not interested, go play your fucking games that you actually like and stop filling a thread with your bullshit and that of idiots like you.

There are their games, these are not your games until they flopped hard as fuck then suddenly everyone start crying why white men aren't buying them.

Once they flop, let them cry.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

The only people capable of exterting enormous pressure on social life are billionaires - they then chose leftists as their scapegoats to keep you distracted and disempowered.

Society is never divided into people with power and people without power. Therefore, even the powerful must fear the crowd. Why do you think Trump won? Because he was allowed to. Why was he allowed? Because the powerful corrected their course, fearing the contradictions that would tear the plebs apart.

Oh and I believe you that Trump can act, just in a really bad way. Looking at his models, such as Hungary or Russia, you can clearly see where the journey will end. Have fun with that.

I'm not an American, so he's not my president. My purpose was only to demonstrate that the American people elected him (with the permission of the real rulers of this country) because that is the general social dynamic. At least today.
Because Avowed, as a game of the Biden era, may also show something else (we will evaluate it in a few years) - the burnout of a certain cultural model, and its tolerance today, is the result of the proximity of this period.

If that's the case, I'd really like to see Vavra try to pose as Chud again during the KC3 premiere :D

The powerful these days are mostly anxious about their mortality. They are massive fear spreaders, and it all trickles down to society through X.

Why do I think Trump won? Because the Democrats mostly did badly, not because the Trump electorate expanded.

You're losing me about Avowed being tied to the Biden era. That's a bit far fetched, no?

The games have been in development for years, and Avowed's production coincides largely with Biden's (they started under the first Trump, but you can see from the trailers that it all went to waste).

Don't you remember when Trump put an end to woke video games the first time around?

The first Trump era was different. He was probably an aberration. That's why he was fought so freely, that's why he was so cautious, and that's why he lost. But now it appears in different conditions, in a different style. And it has strong allies within. Their face is Musk, but there are more of these people.

Also, if you don't believe me, why did Disney adopt DEI under Obama and abandon it now, just after Trump's victory? Because only now the course has been changed.

 

[Raghar]

You're losing me about Avowed being tied to the Biden era. That's a bit far fetched, no?

Don't you remember when Trump put an end to woke video games the first time around?

No, I don't.

 

[Morgoth]

The games have been in development for years, and Avowed's production coincides largely with Biden's (they started under the first Trump, but you can see from the trailers that it all went to waste).

And this is where the commonalities end; coincidence. Stop trying to find faults that can fit into oligarch narrative.

 

[Brickfrog]

The first Trump era was different. He was probably an aberration. That's why he was fought so freely, that's why he was so cautious, and that's why he lost. But now it appears in different conditions, in a different style.

Even if the president had the power to make entertainment companies produce content in line with their politics (they don't), do you really think Trump would give a shit?

Do you think Trump is going to lean on Embracer group to get rid of pronoun options and robust hair customizers because people are whining on forums he's never heard of? He doesn't give a shit dude.

 

[Fedora Master]

The first Trump era was different. He was probably an aberration. That's why he was fought so freely, that's why he was so cautious, and that's why he lost. But now it appears in different conditions, in a different style.

Even if the president had the power to make entertainment companies produce content in line with their politics (they don't), do you really think Trump would give a shit?

Do you think Trump is going to lean on Embracer group to get rid of pronoun options and robust hair customizers because chuds on /v/ are mad? He doesn't give a shit dude.

We're going to make RPGs great again!

 

[HumanMech]

At least now there is dedicated area for all that drama which is an improvement for the actual gayming section

ftfy

Because that's what you do by slurping every recent lgbtq goyslop. So don't kid yourself about "actual gaming".

 

[CanadianCorndog]

I haven't played the game, but what puts me off is the Star Trek style of non-human races in the game. I watched someone play on a stream, and all of the non-human races were just humans in makeup, like old Star Trek episodes. There is no effort to create anything that doesn't allow re-use of the motion-captured animations and default human skeletons in these games. I can see them designing everything around these budget decisions without creative solutions. If they can't figure that out, I doubt they are creative enough to make an interesting game world.

 

[soulburner]

So no, the Ryzen 3600 is not a good CPU. It was a good entry level CPU 5,5 years ago.

Is 5080 also entry level gpu for you ?



You don't have a clue what entry level means. With 3600 you could achieve 95% in gaming of what best CPU at the time could do. 5xxx ryzens weren't even that huge upgrade over 3xxx series to begin with. Only X3D was the one that stood out with transformative performance (if game supported it). Since then we got 7 series which was definitely an 10-20% upgrade over 5000 series and 9xxx which is eve smaller upgrade than going from 5000 to 7000 and that one is like few months old recent.

Again. We are not talking here about some amazing looking game that pushes simulation up to 11.

We are talking here about 520p gaming on low in game that doesn't look better than 2015 game like Witcher 3 and isn't even open world game.

And it can't do 60fps lololol.

You are retaRd.

The 5080 paired with a Ryzen 3600 CPU will work like a low end machine, yes. Pairing such a GPU with this kind of CPU, aside from scientific purposes like testing CPU scaling of an engine/game, is absolute bonkers and has no right of working properly.

Here is a good example of CPU scaling with an RTX 4090 (don't mind the game title, it's pretty much the same scaling in all games):

The 3600 was always an entry level CPU which could achieve full GPU utilization when paired with an RX580, a GTX 1060, maybe an RTX 2060. An RTX3060 or a Radeon 6600XT would be underfed by the CPU in quite a few games, the newer the more substantial. It was cheap, it had 6 cores and 12 threads, worked great will the then middle end graphics card.

By today's standards the 3600 can be considered a sub low end processor.

Avowed is using a modern version of a commercially available engine. It uses Nanite and uses it well. It uses both software or hardware ray tracing, depending on settings. Does not support baked lighting or any other non ray traced method for its lighting. You may not like the style of the graphics, but no pop-in on distant objects is beautiful, the lighting and shadowing look natural (aside from a few issues with the denoiser shutting itself down occasionally).

Unreal Engine 5 will murder any CPU it is given. With that in mind, Avowed is well optimized. Again, we aren't talking about the game itself, just the rendering tech. Veilguard is also a wonderfully optimized game

PS: take a look at the graph and see how much of an upgrade the 5600 was over 3600.
PS2: there is no way to support or not support an X3D processor. It depends on which type of calculations a game uses for its logic - some stuff will rely on cache, others will be based solely around raw frequency.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

 

[jackofshadows]

Gosh does anyone know how to CLEAR your quickslot?! I have potion in 1, 2, and 3 and want to clear 2, and 3 but cannot figure it out.

There might be no such feature. Try to replace it with something else, then throw it away.