Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

If Larian show actual screenshot how many more pages codex can spam?

is it really spamming if its your own website talking about the subject the website is dedicated to? Just wondering.

 

[Roguey]

Now you have created an image of an Asian version of this in glasses:

High-functioning people look normal. It's a mental condition.

 

[ArchAngel]

I am 99% sure BG3 will be TB. Only reason Larian has not confirmed this is because they know a certain number of BG purists will complain it is not RTwP (like they did with Torment 2) and wants to make some awesome combat gameplay demo to show that even as TB Bg3 combat can be awesome.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Anyone think BG3 will even be on par with DA:O?

Is that a praise of DA:O or a jab at Larian?

Oh, don't bother... I will just read review on your blog...

 

[Lilura]

Is that a praise of DA:O or a jab at Larian?

Oh, don't bother... I will just read review on your blog...

I'm pretty sure you won't have to wait for a review, pleb.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Hmm... Lilura rated my post "cuck" when I stated my willingness to read her blog and her opinions about DA:O.

She doesn't like submissive men. Welp. Nobody does.

 

[Riddler]

Now you have created an image of an Asian version of this in glasses:

High-functioning people look normal. It's a mental condition.

Even low functioning autists don't look like they have downs.

 

[Cryomancer]

I am 99% sure BG3 will be TB. Only reason Larian has not confirmed this is because they know a certain number of BG purists will complain it is not RTwP (like they did with Torment 2) and wants to make some awesome combat gameplay demo to show that even as TB Bg3 combat can be awesome.

My problem is not that. Is that they will probably not follow the rules. For him, missing, that worked in tons of games, "obviously not work", spell slots are not intuitive, leveling is too slow(...)

 

[glass blackbird]

I'm enjoying the people attacking Larian for considering changing the rules, while simultaneously praising a bunch of games that changed the rules. You can't have it both ways

 

[Nano]

I am 99% sure BG3 will be TB. Only reason Larian has not confirmed this is because they know a certain number of BG purists will complain it is not RTwP (like they did with Torment 2) and wants to make some awesome combat gameplay demo to show that even as TB Bg3 combat can be awesome.

Agreed. Which is why it's a shame that Larian apparently forgot how to develop a fun TB system with D:OS2.

 

[Infinitron]

Hmm... Lilura rated my post "cuck" when I stated my willingness to read her blog and her opinions about DA:O.

She doesn't like submissive men. Welp. Nobody does.

Lilura is willing to defend the virtues of DA:O, but won't play Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Scratch an RPG elitist, find a former BioWare fan (who is still attached to them and won't take any game they didn't make seriously) under the surface?

 

[Lacrymas]

She doesn't like submissive men. Welp. Nobody does.

I do. Well, it depends on the amount and type of submissiveness.

RE: PF:K vs PoE, I kinda prefer ToME tbh.

It wasn't only combat but that said my first experience with PoE1 combat was literally "what the hell is this?!".

Why?

Initial impression was that they somehow created a combat that was both confusing and streamlined at the same time. Which I thought was impossible.

For holy-grail spiritual succesor of BG after 2 decades it haven't felt like BG for me. Also if I remember right there was no AI initially (I played early version not sure if they added it later on) at all which made trash fights even mundane and annoying than they usually are in such titles.

Maybe people should stop comparing it to the IE games and treat it as its own thing. It is streamlined in the most terrible way, yes, but the confusing parts come from stacking rules and how shit the UI and SFX are, not anything else.

 

[LJ40]

Hmm... Lilura rated my post "cuck" when I stated my willingness to read his blog and his opinions about DA:O.

He doesn't like submissive men. Welp. Nobody does.

Fixed that for you. I didn't realize "wannabe fag" was a thing. Congrats on coming out.

 

[Fairfax]

Anyone think BG3 will even be on par with DA:O?

Are you still fond of DA:O? A review on your blog could be interesting.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm fine with it being like DA:O.

To everyone who is offended by this statement - this is the best possible scenario we can hope for. Pining for a turn-based 5E party-based 2D RPG with strong C&C, character creation and amazing writing to rival the best is parodically optimistic and out of touch.

 

[luj1]

Anyone think BG3 will even be on par with DA:O?

I suppose that's the best case scenario. But even if so, it will almost certainly have none of the soul and charm of the originals - much like Fallout 3 to Fallout.

 

[Sergiu64]

Anyone think BG3 will even be on par with DA:O?

I suppose that's the best case scenario. But even if so, it will almost certainly have none of the soul and charm of the originals - much like Fallout 3 to Fallout.

Look on the bright side: at least it will have plenty of cheese jokes.

 

[glass blackbird]

All I want is interesting combat encounters. Maybe Larian will provide that, maybe not. Larian's writers are awful but I can't imagine liking the writing in the first two BGs either, so there's nothing to lose out on there. As long as they have difficult combat it'll be good, and if they don't it'll suck

 

[Lacrymas]

They've proven they can ruin a game based on the writing alone, so there's a difference between writing so bad and cringe it spoils any enjoyment you can squeeze out and functional technically-nothing-wrong-with-it BG1-style writing.

 

[glass blackbird]

They've proven they can ruin a game based on the writing alone, so there's a difference between writing so bad and cringe it spoils any enjoyment you can squeeze out and functional technically-nothing-wrong-with-it BG1-style writing.

 

[DalekFlay]

You don't triple the size of the team you used for Divinity:OS 2 and then make a niche game. Been saying that since announcement day. Don't be idiots and have realistic expectations.

 

[Thonius]

I'm fine with it being like DA:O.

To everyone who is offended by this statement - this is the best possible scenario we can hope for. Pining for a turn-based 5E party-based 2D RPG with strong C&C, character creation and amazing writing to rival the best is parodically optimistic and out of touch.

Yeah but Larian sucks...

The obsession with "muh ruleset" here has no basis in reality, most people playing your game will have never touched a pnp RPG in their life. The idea that somehow properly implementing a ruleset that most people have never encountered will make your sales soar is ridiculous.
The pnp RPG market is tiny -- really, really, tiny. Witcher 3 -- years after release, and counting PC sales only -- brings in about as much revenue as the entire RPG market's US/Canada sales.

data:
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/35150/hobby-games-market-nearly-1-2-billion
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?1984-Top-5-RPGs-Compiled-Charts-2008-Present
https://www.wepc.com/news/video-game-statistics/

Never played PnP, yet I love DnD based games, because alternative is just diablo shit.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I am 99% sure BG3 will be TB.

It most probably will. With no missing in combat.

 

[glass blackbird]

I am 99% sure BG3 will be TB.

It most probably will. With no missing in combat.

Larian presents Deadfire 2

 

[Cryomancer]

It most probably will. With no missing in combat.

To remove missing, you need to re write everything. Ranged combat, feats, spells that increases AC, spells that allows saves, spells that allow SR(...)

And note, Larian criticized the leveling and even spell slots, for then is not intuitive.

Larian presents Deadfire 2

I think that Larian is developing Sword Coast Legends 3 with BG3's name

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Every game that tried to re write the rules ended with an poorer experience. This applies to PfK making sneak attack ridiculous broken, this applies to nwn1 where pale masters are useless due only one summon BS and lack of +caster level from the class, this applies to nwn2's warlock that is a piece of crap, but when i installed an mod that made the class more pnp-like, i loved the class, this applies to every game, in every time. With few exceptions when the rule alteration is optional. For eg, IWD/BG:EE Dragon's Disciple. This class is a prestige class on 3e and din't exist on aD&D, even IWD2(3e) doesn't have the class. But i loved to solo the game with the class in question.