Game News BioWare caves to pressure over Mass Effect copy-protection

[MetalCraze]

The reply to the rage over that article.

why does every site that tries to have a cool name and sound like a professional media in fact write stupid things?

 

[ushdugery]

I fucking hate that DRM bullshit, Anyone who put's that shit on their product gets me who would have bought the product getting later pirate version fucking cocksuckers.

 

[Mareus]

Load of wanky bollocks.

Croat scrote, fuck off with your bullshit excuses. Have the balls to admit that you're thief. After playing through these pirated games how many have you bought after?

Lets see now..

Baldur's Gate trilogy
Ultima IX
Lands of Lore 3
Icewind Dale
Tomb Raider 1,2,3,4,5
Myst series
Longest Journey
Dreamfall
Worms 2
Worms Armagedon
Metal Gear Solid 2
The Dig
Day of the Tentacle
Monkey Island 1,2,3
Broken Sword 1,2
Fallout 1,2
Full Throtle
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Planescape Torment
Deus Ex
Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis
MDK
Bloodlines
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
there is more, but i ll stop now..

 

[fizzelopeguss]

So you've atleast played through dozens more and never payed anything for it.

you ain't entitled to these games.

 

[Shannow]

Evil pirate! You are not supposed to actually go and buy games after you pirated them. It doesn't fit the anti-pirate's world view. I hope you run amok and kill lots of innocent people *selfrighteousrage*

 

[fizzelopeguss]

r00fles!

I couldn't give a toss if he steals games or not, but him coming out with bullshit excuses for it is pathetic.

 

[Jedi_Learner]

I couldn't give a toss if he steals games or not, but him coming out with bullshit excuses for it is pathetic.

Amen.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Uh oh.

 

[MetalCraze]

it seems my region is fine. 1C, while being an extremely shitty translator and an extremely shitty publisher, nitpicked EA to death and as Lestat pointed out - our region won't have any activation bullshit - yay
now I just hope 1C will release a game with original english voice-overs.

 

[Mareus]

So you've atleast played through dozens more and never payed anything for it.

you ain't entitled to these games.

I have high standards when it comes to games and if you want to buy every shit game out there then you do that but don't tell me what I am entitled to or not. It is a matter of principle for me, not so much money. Why would I pay for a game that I maybe won't like? WHY? Like I explained, you cannot trust demos or reviews or publishers, so you be a goodie two shoes and buy games like Retardilion who get scores 95/100 and after you play it for a bit longer shoot yourself in the head for being a moron and falling for the hype and giving money to bethseda assholes who lied and bribed and you fell for it. If you think that it's ok for publishers to spread lies and to bribe review sites and magazines, while thinking it's wrong to buy a game after first trying it out then you should check your brain. I like to have original stuff if I like what I saw and I would pay crazy amount of money to get it. For me Baldur's Gate Trilogy is priceless and even if it costed over 1000$ I would pay to play it, because the developers really deserve a reward for that kind of game. It's not about money, it's about the principle. With the things in the gaming industry as they are atm, with good games comming out every 2 years I really don't see any other option.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Because it's theft you gormless sod, you're downloading and playing through these games without paying fuck all. I'm guessing for every game that you do buy you download atleast 2 or 3 and play through them to the end, wether you or i like the games or not is irrelevent.

Like I explained, you cannot trust demos or reviews or publishers

hence why thousands of sites like this exist.

It's not about money, it's about the principle.

Rofl, your excuses suck. it's a conveniant and easy way of getting shit for free without being held accountable for stealing it off the shop shelves.

With the things in the gaming industry as they are atm, with good games comming out every 2 years I really don't see any other option.

It makes me laugh how you're acting as if playing games is life or death, they're a luxury good, if you don't like what's out there then don't play it.

 

[MetalCraze]

r00fles!

I couldn't give a toss if he steals games or not, but him coming out with bullshit excuses for it is pathetic.

holy shit I'm torrenting Prince of Persia: Sands of Time because I've lost my legitimately owned cds. I'm such a bad pirate harr harr

 

[Lumpy]

Because it's theft you gormless sod, you're downloading and playing through these games without paying fuck all. I'm guessing for every game that you do buy you download atleast 2 or 3 and play through them to the end, wether you or i like the games or not is irrelevent.

So if it doesn't hurt anyone, why is it bad? Is reading books at the library bad? After all, I'm paying fuck all for them.

t's a conveniant and easy way of getting shit for free without being held accountable for stealing it off the shop shelves.

Most pirates probably would never steal something from a shop shelf. That's because theft hurts the victim. One's piracy of a game doesn't affect the developers either way.

It makes me laugh how you're acting as if playing games is life or death, they're a luxury good, if you don't like what's out there then don't play it.

So one shouldn't play games because he can't afford them?

The ones who hurt the developers are the ones who crack the copy protection and release the game on the internets. The ones who download it don't harm the devs in any way.

 

[Mareus]

Because it's theft you gormless sod, you're downloading and playing through these games without paying fuck all. I'm guessing for every game that you do buy you download atleast 2 or 3 and play through them to the end, wether you or i like the games or not is irrelevent.

Like I explained, you cannot trust demos or reviews or publishers

hence why thousands of sites like this exist.

It's not about money, it's about the principle.

Rofl, your excuses suck. it's a conveniant and easy way of getting shit for free without being held accountable for stealing it off the shop shelves.

With the things in the gaming industry as they are atm, with good games comming out every 2 years I really don't see any other option.

It makes me laugh how you're acting as if playing games is life or death, they're a luxury good, if you don't like what's out there then don't play it.

For me games are more than luxury goods. It's my childhood. I am a total game freak, OK? I have been playing games since I was 4 years old and I have really seen how the industry was developing since ZX Spectrum days till now and how it's falling to shit nowadays!!!! I M FURIUS ABOUT IT!!! HELL, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER GEM LIKE PST IN SIGHT I WOULD PAY 1000$ for it!!!

Thousand sites like THIS???? ARE YOU RETARDED?? THERE IS ONLY ONE CODEX!!!! It's unique!!! I have searched and searched and searched for a site where people know something about games, and I have not found it until I got here, so don't give me that crap, although most of codexians are just a bunch of angry cunts (and I understand it because things in gaming industry are falling to SHIT). Also, even if all of you say some game is great I still might not like it, so why should I give money for something before I tested it?
If the gaming industry wants to stop piracy they should stop with DRM and god knows what crap and allow people to return the game if they don't like it in a certain period. That is the only way, because games are not like movies and until the publishers stop acting like money grabbing idiots by making games like Oblivion and lying, bribing and cheating to sell I will not buy a single game without first trying it out thourghuly. I already wasted enough money on shitty games I bought based on false promises from developers.

PS. You remain stupid and keep wasting your money on games that will suck. Will you buy Fallout 3? You should because Bethseda says it will rock. Because most review sites will give it 100/100. So you buy those games and be happy, but don't accuse me of being a thief for wanting to test the game first. Why did I buy the originals of Baldu'rs gate and many many other titles if I am a thief? I already had the pirated version. I bought it cause I loved those games and I want to have the original box. If I didn't do like i did I would probably have over 100 originals now with only 30 of them which I actually love. Do you know how much money I would waste for listening to false media?? And it's not so much about money anymore with me, but the principle of the matter. THEY LIED!!!!! THEY LIED 100 times, so no more wasting money on their false promises for me. Oblivion was what did for me.

 

[MetalCraze]

I can't believe I actually agree with Lumpy

also OMG I have pirated copies of Fallout 1/2, PS:T, Arcanum, Starcraft and much more other cool games. the reason for that is that they weren't officially published in my region at that time so the only way to get them was to pirate them. (actually I've mostly made my copies from cds borrowed from a friend - OMG piracy). btw only Fallout 2 got officially published from all those games here - and it happened only 2 years ago. but omg I refused to buy it - because I'd be forced to throw the game cd into trash bin anyway - fuckers at 1C completely messed the game - from misplaced voice-overs done by shitty amateur "actors" (females speak with male voices and vice versa) to new bugs previously not seen in F2. omg I'm guilty as fuck yes?

if not for piracy (or better to say -sharing-) I'd never had a chance to play great games which -never- got published in my region.
so did BIS, Blizzard etc lost something because I've pirated their games I'd never been able to buy otherwise?

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Thousand sites like THIS???? ARE YOU RETARDED?? THERE IS ONLY ONE CODEX!!!! It's unique!!!

not really, it used to be unique, more and more internet sites are becoming alike.

If the gaming industry wants to stop piracy they should stop with DRM and god knows what crap and allow people to return the game if they don't like it in a certain period.

Agreed, should probably be more like console games with the trade ins. but even then devs ain't getting fuck all for it, it's the retailers. The whole business model is crap and needs to change.

PS. You remain stupid and keep wasting your money on games that will suck. Will you buy Fallout 3?

Probably not, but then again i wouldn't advocate pirating the game just because todd is a cunt. And if i did, which i might. I'm still big, old and ugly enough to realise i'm playing something i shouldn't be. half the people here pirated the witcher and bloodlines, on a supposed rpg fansite.

Do you know how much money I would waste for listening to false media??

no more than me i imagine.

 

[pkt-zer0]

half the people here pirated the witcher and bloodlines, on a supposed rpg fansite.

I also bought them. *shock* How is that any worse for RPGs than not playing and not buying them?

 

[WalterKinde]

Are you a pirate if someone loaned you the witcher (just to see if your system could run it) you installed it used the no dvd crack from gamecopy world gave back the disc made it through act 01 but stopped playing because you couldn't stand the long load times on your crappy system , it sat on your harddrive for a few weeks and was then uninstalled?
If yes then i may be a pirate.
As for bloodlines bought that although i had never played the first game it was the short lived tv series based on the white wolf game that got me interested in it.
And i will pick up the special version of the witcher my system is more robust now.

 

[kingcomrade]

Yes, and you're probably a pedophile too but that's just a personal observation.

 

[Xi]

I have high standards when it comes to games and if you want to buy every shit game out there then you do that but don't tell me what I am entitled to or not.

Wow, your high standards include such titles as these:

Tomb Raider 1,2,3,4,5
Full Throtle
Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis

Interesting, but I call bullshit on the games you've "purchased" when most of those titles were released prior to rampant piracy and high internet bandwidth in the first place. Many of those are 1990's titles. Video game piracy certainly wasn't as huge back then because it was only just getting started with the advent of win95 and Graphics processors. I guess we'll never know though, but it's easy to say "i pirated these and later purchased them" if it supports your argument, but it's no different than us just saying bullshit because there is no proof for either side. In this case it's not entirely an opinionated matter, or semantics, it's a matter of factual information that either leads to a conclusion of true/false. In this case, you've provided nothing to support what you're saying. *cough*Bullshit*cough*

High quality eh?

 

[pkt-zer0]

If you're out of arguments, just go for the "YOU'RE A LYING CUNT SO YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID" angle, it's sure to succeed.

I'm fairly convinced now that Xi is actually strictly pro-piracy, just intending to make the anti-piracy people look bad.

 

[Morbus]

Because it's theft you gormless sod, you're downloading and playing through these games without paying fuck all. I'm guessing for every game that you do buy you download atleast 2 or 3 and play through them to the end, wether you or i like the games or not is irrelevent.

Like I explained, you cannot trust demos or reviews or publishers

hence why thousands of sites like this exist.

It's not about money, it's about the principle.

Rofl, your excuses suck. it's a conveniant and easy way of getting shit for free without being held accountable for stealing it off the shop shelves.

With the things in the gaming industry as they are atm, with good games comming out every 2 years I really don't see any other option.

It makes me laugh how you're acting as if playing games is life or death, they're a luxury good, if you don't like what's out there then don't play it.

You all suck. Pirating games shouldn't be about the money (unless we really don't have any or much). It should be about principle, but not about the principle stated before. Art should be free. Period. Everything said that goes against that is irrelevant/false.

That said, it doesn't mean we shouldn't pay for art, or that we shouldn't pay for games. What it means is that we shouldn't HAVE to pay for it. Also, if a given game is not art, then it's acceptable that we have to pay for it. Games like Fallout or Arcanum and such, they are art, and we shouldn't have to pay to see them. Of course, anyone with the least bit of intelligence will understand that, in order to see more art like that we should contribute to the cause. So paying for games we like is only a natural way of voting with our purses. We can finance the projects, or we can show our support in the press, if we are able to, and those are all fine ways of contributing to a project.

In the end, I pirate and I buy. I pirate because I don't think I should have to pay for art, and thus I don't pay. I buy because I believe I should repay for the good work of the people that work for me (or for the group of people I'm in).

 

[Shannow]

All information should be free, food and shelter should be free, minds should be free, fulfillment of all basic needs should be free (free blow jobs ftw)! Hooray for freedom and fuck the capitalist system! *idealisticnonproducingnerdrant*

 

[Gnidrologist]

Why wouldn't pirates and antipirates just shut the fuck up and suck some cock? I mean, physicaly, because metaphoricaly they already do.

Pirates - stop whining and making excuses.
Antipirates - kiss my pirate ass and suck my cock.

 

[Morbus]

All information should be free, food and shelter should be free, minds should be free, fulfillment of all basic needs should be free (free blow jobs ftw)! Hooray for freedom and fuck the capitalist system! *idealisticnonproducingnerdrant*

If all people, ALL, withough exception believed in that ideal, it would work. The fact that other people don't believe in it doesn't mean I should give up.

Why wouldn't pirates and antipirates just shut the fuck up and suck some cock? I mean, physicaly, because metaphoricaly they already do.

Pirates - stop whining and making excuses.

Who's whining here? I, for one, didn't whine. I don't complain about nothing. And I don't make excuses. I take full responsibility for my actions. Not legal ones of course, because governments are corrupt and deprived of ideals.

 

[Gnidrologist]

You're whining again. Shut up and go torrent some shit instead.

 

[kingcomrade]

Not legal ones of course, because governments are corrupt and deprived of ideals.

How convenient.

 

[Jedi_Learner]

In the end, I pirate and I buy. I pirate because I don't think I should have to pay for art, and thus I don't pay. I buy because I believe I should repay for the good work of the people that work for me (or for the group of people I'm in).

My respect for you just disappeared. If there was a competition for the worst excuse for pirating (being a cheap fuck), you'd win first prize.

 

[Dgaider]

It's sort of like declaring that you should be allowed to play all games for free and only pay for the ones that meet your standards after the fact.

The great part about this view is that it absolves you of all responsibility for making informed decisions as a consumer. As an added bonus you get to put on elitist airs and claim that you are supporting art and taking a stand against commercialism, and that the only people this could possibly hurt is "the big guy" who can afford it anyway.

Win/win.

 

[Nicolai]

'The leukodermatic. The xanthodantic. The maxillofacially swollen. Those with distorted orbits of all kinds. Get out from under the sun's cove-lighting is what this says. Come in from the spectral rain.' Madame Psy-chosis's broadcast accent is not Boston. There are r's, for one thing, and there is no cultured Cambridge stutter. It's the accent of someone who's spent time either losing a southern lilt or cultivating one. It's not flat and twangy like Stice's, and it's not a drawl like the people at Gainesville's academy. Her voice itself is sparely modulated and strangely empty, as if she were speaking from inside a small box. It's not bored or laconic or ironic or tongue-in-cheek. 'The basilisk-breathed and pyorrheic.' It's reflective but not judgmental, somehow. Her voice seems low-depth familiar to Mario the way certain childhood smells will strike you as familiar and oddly sad. 'All ye peronic or teratoidal. The phrenologically malformed. The sup-puratively lesioned. The endocrinologically malodorous of whatever ilk. Run don't walk on down. The acervulus-nosed. The radically -ectomied. The morbidly diaphoretic with a hankie in every pocket. The chronically granulomatous. The ones it says here the ones the cruel call Two-Baggers — one bag for your head, one bag for the observer's head in case your bag falls off. The hated and dateless and shunned, who keep to the shadows. Those who undress only in front of their pets. The quote aesthetically challenged. Leave your lazarettes and oubliettes, I'm reading this right here, your closets and cellars and TP Tableaux, find Nurturing and Support and the Inner Resources to face your own unblinking sight, is what this goes on to say, a bit overheatedly maybe. Is it our place to say. It says here Hugs Not Ughs. It says Come don the veil of the type and token. Come learn to love what's hidden inside. To hold and cherish. The almost unbelievably thick-ankled. The kyphotic and lordotic. The irremediably cellulitic. It says Progress Not Perfection. It says Never Perfection. The fatally pulchritudinous: Welcome. The Actaeonizing, side by side with the Medusoid. The papuled, the macu-lar, the albinic. Medusas and odalisques both: Come find common ground. All meeting rooms windowless. That's in ital: all meeting rooms window-less.' Plus the music she's cued for this inflectionless reading is weirdly compelling. You can never predict what it will be, but over time some kind of pattern emerges, a trend or rhythm. Tonight's background fits, somehow, as she reads. There's not any real forwardness to it. You don't sense it's straining to get anywhere. The thing it makes you see as she reads is something heavy swinging slowly at the end of a long rope. It's minor-key enough to be eerie against the empty lilt of the voice and the clinks of tines and china as Mario's relations eat turkey salad and steamed crosiers and drink lager and milk and vin blanc from Hull over behind the plants bathed in purple light. Mario can see the back of the Moms's head high above the table, and then over to the left Hal's bigger right arm, and then Hal's profile when he lowers it to eat. There's a ball by his plate. The E.T.A. players seem to need to eat six or seven times a day. Hal and Mario had walked over for 2100 supper at HmH after Hal had read something for Mr. Leith's class and then disappeared for about half an hour while Mario stood supported by his police lock and waited for him. Mario rubs his nose with the heel of his hand. Madame Psychosis has an unironic but generally gloomy outlook on the universe in general. One of the reasons Mario's obsessed with her show is that he's somehow sure Madame Psychosis cannot herself sense the compelling beauty and light she projects over the air, somehow. He has visions of interfacing with her and telling her she'd feel a lot better if she listened to her own show, he bets. Madame Psychosis is one of only two people Mario would love to talk to but would be scared to try. The word periodic pops into his head.