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Biowhores grudgingly admit: Witcher > DA2

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In this here representative poll:
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http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user ... l_id=16860

Witcher reigns supreme even on Bioware's home turf. :smug:
 

hyttenhoof

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Now they just need to admit it's better than DA:O.

But I guess this is a start. How long till end of line?
 

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95% of those with a bioware account have questionable tastes in RPGs, news at eleven !
 

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I think it's obvious that BioWare rushed DA2 primarily to avoid competing against Witcher 2. Even from previews DA2 sounded like a (poor) copy of Witcher 2 and I suspect that uncertain of Witcher 2 release date, they rushed DA2 to avoid people pointing fingers.
 

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Only 12 sane people voted in that poll.
 

tennishero

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witcher is better than DA

but irony is witcher is shit
boring
no compulsion to finish that motherfucker
choice and consequence begins to drag after chapter 2
the sex cards dont show a thing
the combat is sooooooooo fucking shit
the VA's are the worst ive ever heard

so basically oblivion is the greatest game ever made
 

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Biowhores grudgingly admit: Witcher > DA2
I am not sure if Witcher is better than any DA for one good reason : stupid Polish hacks completely butchered Aurora engine to the point i cant run Witcher faster than 2 fps on my 6yo machine. I cant even see how Witcher is giving out a better looking picture than NWN2's Electron, which i can run no problem. I can comfortably play DA2 on it, though, and finished DAO on it.
 

Angthoron

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Lightknight said:
Biowhores grudgingly admit: Witcher > DA2
I am not sure if Witcher is better than any DA for one good reason : stupid Polish hacks completely butchered Aurora engine to the point i cant run Witcher faster than 2 fps on my 6yo machine. I cant even see how Witcher is giving out a better looking picture than NWN2's Electron, which i can run no problem. I can comfortably play DA2 on it, though, and finished DAO on it.


Had the opposite results on my 7-year-old machine. R00fles!
 

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While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
 

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Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.

Tons of C&C, can be argued to even be choices with real far-going consequences.

Atmosphere which sometimes borders on the level of bloodlines.

Witcher essentially is a very good game especially compared to any other recent rpg barring motb.

da:o is a bad,boring game bro

:thumbsup:
 

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Zeus said:
DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

Yes, it's RTwP system.

Yes, you can assemble a party.

Yes, you create your own character which is completely different from each other for the first 20 minutes of game time, when afterwards they all fall into the same rails and face the same issues and are presented with the same resolution for quests save a few different dialog lines here and there in a few specific quests.

As to TWitcher being superior I can't say. I didn't really like the game the first time I played nor years later when I tried it again.
 

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BIO forumites are dumb morans so the fact that some prefer TW just further rpoves that. L0L

The Witcher is one of the shittiest games ever. period.
 
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Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
Some people don't equate the combat mechanics to whether or not an RPG is good or not.
 

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The Ninth Circle said:
Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
Some people don't equate the combat mechanics to whether or not an RPG is good or not.

Combat mechanics aside, the staple of a RPG is player driven character development. If you're playing a pre-made character, even if you can adjust his stats, it takes away a great deal of its RPGness.
 
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Mastermind said:
The Ninth Circle said:
Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
Some people don't equate the combat mechanics to whether or not an RPG is good or not.

Combat mechanics aside, the staple of a RPG is player driven character development. If you're playing a pre-made character, even if you can adjust his stats, it takes away a great deal of its RPGness.
Premade characters are simply cosmetic as long as the in-game interactions are controlled by the player rather than a concrete-personality of the PC.
 

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Mastermind said:
The Ninth Circle said:
Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
Some people don't equate the combat mechanics to whether or not an RPG is good or not.

Combat mechanics aside, the staple of a RPG is player driven character development. If you're playing a pre-made character, even if you can adjust his stats, it takes away a great deal of its RPGness.

Why do you hate Planescape: Torment Mastermind?
 

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Mastermind said:
Combat mechanics aside, the staple of a RPG is player driven character development. If you're playing a pre-made character, even if you can adjust his stats, it takes away a great deal of its RPGness.

I have to quote J.E Sawyer on this topic, as i found his definition of rpgs be close to mine:

"I don't have any difficulty classifying them because I don't intrinsically link styles of combat with the RPG genre. I classify games as RPGs based on their interactive storytelling. More specifically, if you have the ability to define and express your character(s) personality in a way that significantly alters the development of the story, it's an RPG. If you don't have that ability, it's not."

"Don't get me wrong; I like character statistics and advancement. I think they should be part of all sorts of games, and I appreciate it whenever I can get it. But when it comes to the sort of games I help make that are going to be called "RPG", it's important to me that we always do our best to actively support the player's ability to the sort of character they want to make -- with a heavy focus on personality reactivity."
 

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Mastermind said:
The Ninth Circle said:
Zeus said:
While I've yet to play either for longer than five minutes (my computer is old) I have to ask:

Isn't The Witcher an action RPG with a single set player character and "rhythm game" combat, while DA:O lets you create your own character, assemble a party and toggle the option to make combat turn-based (or at least RTwP)?

If so, then how the heck is The Witcher a superior RPG to DA:O? It can't be a lack of sexual escapades with random NPCs.
Some people don't equate the combat mechanics to whether or not an RPG is good or not.

Combat mechanics aside, the staple of a RPG is player driven character development. If you're playing a pre-made character, even if you can adjust his stats, it takes away a great deal of its RPGness.

this.
 

Elzair

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Only untermensch like the Witcher, and only fags (and Volourn) like DA.
 

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