Squeenix Bravely Default

[Decoration Tom]

It's still kinda fitting, I guess. Lazy, but fitting.

I'm all for wanky 'the medium is the message' when it comes to videogames, but in this case I really wish they'd had a different message.

 

[Arcks]

Spoiler

Game kinda obviously tells you that.

Spoiler

How so? I "skipped" a lot of dialogue.

Spoiler

I don't remember the exact dialogue, but they occasionally talk about crystalism and scripture and it mentions that you should NOT walk the predefined path and such. It should finally hit you by the time you get the dress repaired second time and talk with the sage. Also, when you are awakening crystals second time, you get prompt where agnes asks how to do the ritual, and questions whether that is it the right way. Also, games subtitle changes in the starting menu after revelation.

 

[Zed]

Spoiler

Game kinda obviously tells you that.

Spoiler

How so? I "skipped" a lot of dialogue.

Spoiler

I don't remember the exact dialogue, but they occasionally talk about crystalism and scripture and it mentions that you should NOT walk the predefined path and such. It should finally hit you by the time you get the dress repaired second time and talk with the sage. Also, when you are awakening crystals second time, you get prompt where agnes asks how to do the ritual, and questions whether that is it the right way. Also, games subtitle changes in the starting menu after revelation.

Spoiler

yeah it starts now, in chapter 6. before that, I hadn't really encountered anything about destroying crystals.
I'll put this shit on easy and steamroll my way towards the "true ending" then, whatever that is.

 

[Whisky]

Playing the demo. Greatly enjoying it. I never played 4 Heroes of Light, but this is exactly what I was hoping for. It's so odd seeing Square making their modern output and releasing at least one old-style game on the handheld.

Can't wait for it to finally come out here.

 

[Tigranes]

Will try to emulate this on my tablet. Excited. Will report.

 

[TigerKnee]

Will try to emulate this on my tablet. Excited. Will report.

Well I sure as well wish there was a 3DS emulator, but I don't think there is.

 

[Tigranes]

Will try to emulate this on my tablet. Excited. Will report.

Well I sure as well wish there was a 3DS emulator, but I don't think there is.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opendoorstudios.ds4droid

Handles Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon fine.

 

[Zed]

Spoiler

the last few chapters, if you want the "true ending", is a fucking travesty.

at least the final boss is fun. I'm kinda stuck on it but I guess I have to grind some levels for HP. having a fun boss again doesn't really make up for hours of repeating content though.

chapter 7 was kind of okay, because of the new spin on side-bosses. 5 & 6 can suck a dick tho.

 

[TigerKnee]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opendoorstudios.ds4droid

Handles Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon fine.

This game is on the THREE DEE ASS, not the DS, you dofus.

 

[Tigranes]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opendoorstudios.ds4droid

Handles Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon fine.

This game is on the THREE DEE ASS, not the DS, you dofus.

Oh, that was dumbfuck of me. Guess I should have paid more attention than an iota on the handheld market for the last ten years.

 

[Zed]

52 hours, 20 minutes.
Max level (99) on all chars, all jobs I wanted maxed were maxed.
Went for the "true" ending which involves an additional few (really boring) hours.

Good:
Combat (brave/default system).
Job/class system.
Art direction.

Okay:
Music.
Characters (I like having four main characters with equal focus).

Meh:
Story.
Writing (good Q/A though, only noticed one typo).

Shit:
Nothing but combat to keep dungeons interesting.
Voice acting.

Abysmal:
Friend/town-building system.
Last few chapters of the game beside the very last bit.

For Bravely Second (the sequel), please:
remove any online friend bonus shit;
have less linear approach to job acquisition;
skip the fairy bullshit, it's gay as hell;
add FF9's card game;
avoid repetitive segments;
add puzzles to dungeons.


Best JRPG I've played on a handheld, which isn't saying much. If you like FF and have a 3DS, I would recommend it.

If this counts as a Final Fantasy game, this is how the leaderboard looks after this:
1| FF9
2| FF3/6
3| FF7
4| BD:FF <--- hear it is!11
5| FF8... I guess
6| FF Legends (super-generic gameboy game)

 

[felipepepe]

Best JRPG I've played on a handheld, which isn't saying much

Really? Considering how many great jRPGS the DS had, to me that's saying A LOT.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Sounds like the combat may be better than in 4HoL, but I also thought it had a pretty great story/world building. It'd be a disappointment if BD were worse in that department.

 

[Zed]

Best JRPG I've played on a handheld, which isn't saying much

Really? Considering how many great jRPGS the DS had, to me that's saying A LOT.

never had a DS :D

 

[Whisky]

Well, you have a 3DS now, so start skimming through the recommended DS titles.

 

[felipepepe]

Yup, we are currently finishing the recommendation of the games, but this is the result of the best DS RPGs voting:

 

[Vagiel]

Srw w in top 15!? Codex is realy a haven amidst the decline. Salute

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[Zed]

The Dark Spire looks pretty cool but other than that they all look like melodramatic emo stinkers to me.

 

[Jasede]

Etrian is not.

 

[Morality Games]

The Dark Spire looks pretty cool but other than that they all look like melodramatic emo stinkers to me.

Well as far as the SMT games go, beneath the emo there's usually a decent story, setting, or situation. And the game play is about as good as any that comes out of Japan.

They also have the benefit of not being generic Fantasy.

 

[Morality Games]

52 hours, 20 minutes.
Max level (99) on all chars, all jobs I wanted maxed were maxed.
Went for the "true" ending which involves an additional few (really boring) hours.

Good:
Combat (brave/default system).
Job/class system.
Art direction.

Okay:
Music.
Characters (I like having four main characters with equal focus).

Meh:
Story.
Writing (good Q/A though, only noticed one typo).

Shit:
Nothing but combat to keep dungeons interesting.
Voice acting.

Abysmal:
Friend/town-building system.
Last few chapters of the game beside the very last bit.

For Bravely Second (the sequel), please:
remove any online friend bonus shit;
have less linear approach to job acquisition;
skip the fairy bullshit, it's gay as hell;
add FF9's card game;
avoid repetitive segments;
add puzzles to dungeons.


Best JRPG I've played on a handheld, which isn't saying much. If you like FF and have a 3DS, I would recommend it.

If this counts as a Final Fantasy game, this is how the leaderboard looks after this:
1| FF9
2| FF3/6
3| FF7
4| BD:FF <--- hear it is!11
5| FF8... I guess
6| FF Legends (super-generic gameboy game)

Its more like the Classic Final Fantasies get progressively better, ending with 6 as the best in the series, and then the J-Pop decline begins with 7, destroys 8, and comes out of the tailspin in 9, probably placing 9 somewhere below 6 and 7 not even as high as 4. 10 is hard to quantify, 11 is Unmentionable, 12 tried and failed to blend the feel of the Nintendo Classics with the new MMO crap game play of the 2000s, and 13 is LOLOLLOOLLOLLOLL.

The Final Fantasy Legends series is actually Romancing Saga (in Japan). It got published as Final Fantasy in America because the other big jRPGs (Tales and Dragon Quest) never made it here and Square didn't want it to flop. It was a middleweight series in its time and provided a dungeon crawling experience superior to any but the best moments of the Final Fantasies, with much more challenging combat and character development.

 

[Zed]

Well as far as the SMT games go, beneath the emo there's usually a decent story, setting, or situation. And the game play is about as good as any that comes out of Japan.

They also have the benefit of not being generic Fantasy.

A setting is only as good as the developer makes it. Generic fantasy can be great, and it's actually my favorite setting. It's what I grew up with and it rarely bores me just because I've seen it before.

However, I must admit I don't think I will ever be able to get into the 'fantasy adventure at high school' setting that seem so popular in Japan.

The Final Fantasy Legends series is actually Romancing Saga (in Japan). It got published as Final Fantasy in America because the other big jRPGs (Tales and Dragon Quest) never made it here and Square didn't want it to flop. It was a middleweight series in its time and provided a dungeon crawling experience superior to any but the best moments of the Final Fantasies, with much more challenging combat and character development.

Ah, that explains a thing or two.

 

[Morality Games]

Well as far as the SMT games go, beneath the emo there's usually a decent story, setting, or situation. And the game play is about as good as any that comes out of Japan.

They also have the benefit of not being generic Fantasy.

A setting is only as good as the developer makes it. Generic fantasy can be great, and it's actually my favorite setting. It's what I grew up with and it rarely bores me just because I've seen it before.

However, I must admit I don't think I will ever be able to get into the 'fantasy adventure at high school' setting that seem so popular in Japan.

The Final Fantasy Legends series is actually Romancing Saga (in Japan). It got published as Final Fantasy in America because the other big jRPGs (Tales and Dragon Quest) never made it here and Square didn't want it to flop. It was a middleweight series in its time and provided a dungeon crawling experience superior to any but the best moments of the Final Fantasies, with much more challenging combat and character development.

Ah, that explains a thing or two.

It's an acquired taste; Shin Megami Tensei is the only notable example in video games. The appeal of high school as a setting is that it is a period of life with a lot of endings and beginnings. The Shin Megami Tensei universe is a lot like American Gods; belief, emotion, and perception are a powerful engine of supernatural occurrence. The apparently ordinary angst that accompanies these "endings and beginnings" feeds very strongly into the hidden mystical side of existence.

 

[Malpercio]

Yup, we are currently finishing the recommendation of the games, but this is the result of the best DS RPGs voting:

How did the 4 heroes of light get so many votes, holy shit.

 

[felipepepe]

How did the 4 heroes of light get so many votes, holy shit.

Did you actually played it, or only looked at the art-style, got scared and went to plat The Twitcher 2 ?