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Interview Day One DLC explained

Arcanoix

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VentilatorOfDoom said:
This was how the character Zaeed was created; they knew the character was going into the game, and they knew they wanted him available on the first day. He was simply being worked on after the code went out to be pressed onto discs.

Then why not have a Day One patch update?
 

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Arcanoix said:
VentilatorOfDoom said:
This was how the character Zaeed was created; they knew the character was going into the game, and they knew they wanted him available on the first day. He was simply being worked on after the code went out to be pressed onto discs.

Then why not have a Day One patch update?
I would find it much more acceptable, TBH. At least patches aren't a single-purpose tools of greed fulfilment, so it would be fucked up, but not assholery.
 

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DraQ said:
I would find it much more acceptable, TBH. At least patches aren't a single-purpose tools of greed fulfilment, so it would be fucked up, but not assholery.

You're wasting breathe with how you said that. Speak Corporate Public Relations, man! "It would be less greedy than other companies that have been wholly swallowed by the colossus known as Electronic Arts." And if you're like me, throw the word "yid" in there for the record.
 

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Wow, Awkening should have had a few more months of QA.
Just lost all my main char's gear in the silverite mines.
Not only are scripted events that make you succumb to spells in a cut scene - spells that you resist on a constant basis in the game - lame, but you "should" make sure people can get their stuff back. And make sure that the dialogue matches the game. "Quick, find the chest with your gear before the darkspawn realize you are free!" != battle through generic mobs to loot your gear off of "test subjects". And "There are answers in the Architect's chest" != generic loot. And puzzles should be possible to be solved through thinking, not trial and error.
At least the problem isn't very common. Ooh, wait...
FFS

I'm in wah, wah-mode right now.
But considering that I already had to change to nightmare difficulty because the crappy expansion was so fucking easy it might help game balance that I lost all the goodies I'd accumulated. The Wending Wood was my last stop, too... *sigh*

Anyway, new (weak) excuse to pirate DA2, too. And here I was convincing myself that DA:O was ok enough to merit the purchase of the sequel (provided the sequel at least matched DA's "quality"). Phew, at least I got out of that one.
 

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Shannow said:
And here I was convincing myself that DA:O was ok enough to merit the purchase of the sequel (provided the sequel at least matched DA's "quality"). Phew, at least I got out of that one.

DA:O Developers =/= DA:A Developers

I'll find out by Monday if DA:A had ANY Origins team members on the team for Awakening. I highly doubt it though.
 

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I bet they had quite a few, doofus. The lead dsigner of A worked on O... and, NWN2. R00fles!

More butthurt. I love it. Just gives me more reason to love BIO when people cry like little babies over a game. LMFAO

Guys, it is simple. If you think the game sucks don't buy it, don't play it, just fuckin' ignore it. A game being crappy shouldn't be used as a excuse to steal it; it should be used as an excuse to not play it at all.

Why the fuck does someone feel the need to steal soemthing they hate.

REAL thieves don't do that stupid shit.

A robber break into a house. They only have the time to decide with to steal the 48inch TV in the living room old crappy dented one in the bedroom. Which do they steal? FFS It should be fuckin' obvious.

Or better yet, the robber doesn't waste time stealing some little girls' barbies when he breaks in but he will steal the dad's beer. FFS
 

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Volourn said:
I bet they had quite a few, doofus. The lead dsigner of A worked on O... and, NWN2. R00fles!
That explains the awful Trial in NWN2...
More butthurt. I love it. Just gives me more reason to love BIO when people cry like little babies over a game. LMFAO
Uhh, ehh...sure. You don't sound the least bit crazy, no sir(?).

Guys, it is simple. If you think the game sucks don't buy it, don't play it, just fuckin' ignore it.
I do. See Oblivion and MEh2 (and in the future AP) and all the other games I haven't played.
A game being crappy shouldn't be used as a excuse to steal it; it should be used as an excuse to not play it at all.

Why the fuck does someone feel the need to steal soemthing they hate.
Oh, I love it when you get all EXTREME and stuff. Skyway answered this so often, even you should have "gotten" it by now.

REAL thieves don't do that stupid shit.
You heard it here first. Volly admits that piracy is not real thieving.

The rest of your post was some good lolwut shit. You're improving again. Keep up the good work.
 

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Volourn said:
Why the fuck does someone feel the need to steal soemthing they hate.
stealing from someone they hate, you mean. which thieves do quite often.

A robber break into a house.
if you don't know the difference between a robber and a thief, you should shut the fuck up.
 

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Volourn said:
Guys, it is simple. If you think the game sucks don't buy it, don't play it, just fuckin' ignore it. A game being crappy shouldn't be used as a excuse to steal it; it should be used as an excuse to not play it at all.

Why the fuck does someone feel the need to steal soemthing they hate.

What about curiosity? And it might be that you enjoy the game after all, because it's better than the marketing indicated...

But yeah, I see that you don't understand the concept of "try before forming your final opinion". You only have to look at the developer in order to make up your mind.
 

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"What about curiosity? And it might be that you enjoy the game after all, because it's better than the marketing indicated..."

Maybe, maybe not. But, in this day and age there are so many reveiws - both professional and amateur - , videos, articles, posts, etc. that there is no excuse not to figure out if you'll like a game or not ebfore playing it.



"But yeah, I see that you don't understand the concept of "try before forming your final opinion". You only have to look at the developer in order to make up your mind."

Oh, youa re one of those who blindly get butthurt over everything. I know. Volourn is just a BIO 'fanboy' who blindly eats anything they shit out. .. Except, that's blindly not true.

I dare you to ask me if I enjoyed Sonic RPG. Oh yeah, I didn't ebcause I never played it. Same with MDK2, or SS. Hell, even my favorite BIO game NWN, I didn't bother buying aany premiumj moduels except the ones that went to stores.

So, no, unlike the Codex, I don't buy games just ebcause a certain company makes them. Just watch. Sonic RPG2 will come out, and I will not buy it. R00fles!
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Volourn

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Irrelevant. the accusastion is that I buy games solely based on BIO making them. BIO made MDK2 yet I didn't buy it. Hence the accusation is false.
 

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One aspect of day one DLC's is overlooked here so far: Press & Reviews.

Certainly it would be better to just finish all content and go gold then, but everyone who has worked with tight deadlines knows that sometimes you just have to cut corners. Announcing a day one DLC beforehand and letting the press know about it will result in previews that include that information, reassuring the potential customer he will, in fact, get the "full" content instead of a product that promised more than it could deliver.
Few things bother gamers more than announced content or features that does not make it into the final game.

The appearance of continued work on a product even after the game has gone gold probably also helps to reassure customers that there will be patches and support in the future, even if all the content has been finished beforehand.

Furthermore, DLCs discourage piracy to a point, as it gives crackers another file to work at. Even if it takes only a few hours, it may mean a couple of more sales and it is a tiny deterant against pre-release leaks. (Tiny as in, it might discourage a few people, not many.)

In my opinion,the DLC concept is much less about making additional money rather than ensuring the money you could make is actually made.
 

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Volourn said:
I bet they had quite a few, doofus. The lead dsigner of A worked on O... and, NWN2. R00fles!

More butthurt. I love it. Just gives me more reason to love BIO when people cry like little babies over a game. LMFAO

Says the guy whose parents probably buy his games for him. Get a job, kid.
 

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Lysiander said:
Furthermore, DLCs discourage piracy to a point, as it gives crackers another file to work at. Even if it takes only a few hours, it may mean a couple of more sales and it is a tiny deterant against pre-release leaks. (Tiny as in, it might discourage a few people, not many.)
the way it is done currently, with retailer exclusives, preorder bonuses, and different editions with different dlc, it rather encourages even more people to pirate as they are able to play without feeling like they are missing out.
 

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Volourn said:
Irrelevant. the accusastion is that I buy games solely based on BIO making them. BIO made MDK2 yet I didn't buy it.

Too bad. It's better than anything Biowhore made since BG2. FUCKING ROOFLES MOTHERFUCKER!!! AND I DIN"T EVEN PLEY IT I JUST KNOW CUZ I WATCHD PPL PLAY ON UTUB!!!
 

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"Says the guy whose parents probably buy his games for him. Get a job, kid."

Amusing.
 

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Bio: "Hai guise. We were late with sum content but we finished it now but it wouldn't fit on the CD. We'd really like to able to fit it on to the CD, but it can't. We have to upload it digitally. Sorry guise."

Customer: "Hey, no problem man. Where can I fetch it?"

Bio: "Online store. Costs 10 bucks."

Customer: "Wait, you couldn't fit it on the CD, I get that, but you say you'd put it on the CD if you could right?"

Bio: "Yeah. Definetely. 100%."

Customer: "SO WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT?!?"

Bio: "We use rapidshare for upload. Is pretty expensive."
 

Volourn

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Idiot.

Not all DLC fits the 'couldn't be done in time to put on CD' section.

Moran.
 

Grunker

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Volourn said:
Idiot.

Not all DLC fits the 'couldn't be done in time to put on CD' section.

Moran.

Casey Hudson said:
"That gives us a period of 8 to 12 weeks where we can make content, but we can't put it onto the disc because it's already out there. But we can insert it digitally, day one."

We're all talking about Day-One DLC here, Volly-baby :)
 

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They could be uploaded on some server, it also wouldn't took long when other gaming sites catch such DLC and put on their own servers.

DLC is made for purpose to make more money from game and any excuse is silly, period.
 

Volourn

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"We're all talking about Day-One DLC here, Volly-baby :)"

And, majority of BIO's day one DLC is free. I believe only WK was the eception and that was completely seperate from the game as it was never intended to be in the original game unlike Shale which is free. Or that npc punk from ME2's free DLC.

So, WTF are you smokin'?
 

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Volourn said:
as it was never intended to be in

Oh, so it wasn't "intended". Didn't know that. That makes it 100% cool of course :)

Also,

Volourn said:
And, majority of BIO's day one DLC is free.

Free for certain users, and with certain hassles that is. My pal still can't get any content for Dragon Age, though he's redeemed his code, since nothing shows up in his download-window thingie.

Support contacted four times, no help (except a useless "remember to redeem your code" auto-response.

So, WTF are you smokin'?

Camel. Rarely smoke anything but.
 

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