Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

[desocupado]

Fuck. I want a key. Does anyone got a key?

br? br?
hueheuheuhuehueheuheuehue, gibe key or I report?

 

[deuxhero]

I was completely blind. I had no understanding (and to an extent still do) of what my long and short term goals are (there isn't a manual to fucking read!). Figured it would be quicker to ask.

 

[Ulminati]

Dota is a shit game for shit people, of course it can't generate any discussion of its own. We should do a raid in their thread, just like they did with this one in its infancy.

DotA2 or LoL. Which is better and why? DISCUSS!

 

[Castanova]

I was completely blind. I had no understanding (and to an extent still do) of what my long and short term goals are (there isn't a manual to fucking read!). Figured it would be quicker to ask.

This is a pretty good beginner's guide which explains the broad strokes:
http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?754-Purgatus-s-Dota-2-For-Beginners

 

[deuxhero]

That helps.

Is there a point to upgrading atributes over upgrading skills?

 

[Wulfstand]

It depends on the hero you've picked.
For example, when playing Juggernaut, you should normally build him thus: q->stats->q->stats->q->ult, so that by the time you hit level 6, you'll have enough mana to do both your q and ult on a hero, as in do a full combo. The same goes for Sven, and a few others.
Those are rare cases, so in short you should pretty much read a guide for the hero you want to play beforehand.
Hope that helps.

 

[Castanova]

That helps.

Is there a point to upgrading atributes over upgrading skills?

That same guy has another solid guide linked in his signature:
http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?800-Purgatus-s-Intermediate-Dota-2-For-Beginners

 

[Brotherman Bill]

Someone told me that dota2 has no equivalent of red/blue and dragon. Is this true? Seriously? So primitive. So very primitive.

 

[Castanova]

Wazzat?

(God damn I need a key. I keep reading this stupid thread like 100 times a day. /sigh)

 

[Zed]

It depends on the hero you've picked.
For example, when playing Juggernaut, you should normally build him thus: q->stats->q->stats->q->ult, so that by the time you hit level 6, you'll have enough mana to do both your q and ult on a hero, as in do a full combo. The same goes for Sven, and a few others.
Those are rare cases, so in short you should pretty much read a guide for the hero you want to play beforehand.
Hope that helps.

I would go healing ward second level with jugge. 1 stat = 1 branch, just buy an extra of those. the "stay on lane" time you gain from having a free heal is great.

 

[Padre]

Someone told me that dota2 has no equivalent of red/blue and dragon. Is this true? Seriously? So primitive. So very primitive.

Stop trolling you god damn ape.

deuxhero:
Another hero that is pretty straightforward is Zeus. He is an INT nuker who has a global range ult (meaning when you cast it, all 5 guys on the other team take damage, no matter where they are) that greatly helps if done right. Also, last hitting (which you suck at) is easier with him because you can use his chain lightning to both score a creep kill and harass your opponent. Being a nuker he needs levels so it's kinda mandatory to go mid lane with him.

About lanes.
I'm talking absolute basics here. You usually send a solo hero to the mid lane and have two duo side lanes. Other strategies are dual mid, 1 solo short lane with a jungler etc (short lane is bottom lane for radiant, top for dire). I can't stress that enough, you NEED at least one ranged hero in the side lane or you will generally get crushed. Since some heroes are hard carries and have no lane presence early on you want someone to look after them. Perfect examples are Crystal Maiden, Lich etc.

Also, since you are new, avoid hard carries like a plague. They require farm you won't get and it's basically boring to farmfest for 30 minutes. Try to play support, gankers. And find a guide about wards. Noobs never ward and then lose a game because of it.

 

[deuxhero]

I'd love to test that out, but servers have downtime till tommorow morning.

Someone told me that dota2 has no equivalent of red/blue and dragon. Is this true? Seriously? So primitive. So very primitive.

What is red/blue dragon?

 

[Markman]

Creeps in jungle. Red buff lizard gives slow on hit with burning damage over time effect.
Blue buff golem gives 20%+ cooldown reduction and awesome mana regen. Theres a 5 minute timer on them from moment they die until they respawn again.
They exist on both sides of the map and if you kill someone with buffs they are transfered to you.

Dragon gives 190 gold to each and every member of a team(Tower gives 150 gold for example) and spawns 6 minutes after death. Lots of teamfights here.

Theres a Baron Nashor too that gives awesome buffs to the team like more damage, ability power, increased health and mana regen. Spawns 15 minutes after the game has started and respawns every 7 minutes. Ultimate buff.

Somewhat similar to runes in Dota i think.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

Markman don't confuse dota people with advanced concepts like cooldown reduction, I think that is a stat their underdeveloped game barely has

 

[Padre]

deuxhero although it's a hon video, almost everything that is said there can be traslated to dota. Since early game will be your biggest weakness, learn those few tricks about laning like pulling neutrals, aggro management in lane etc to help you not lose lane. When I first started playing this was my worst nightmare because I would autoattack creeps, push the lane too far and then die easily to ganks.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Just had an unmonocle game. Got raped by the other team, to the point where they wouldn't kill our ancient and just sat outside of spawn killing us over and over. Drow had some retarded +300 damage thing which meant everyone was killed super quickly, and Pudge would pull people out for the drow to rape. Very distressing.

 

[meh]

Just had an unmonocle game. Got raped by the other team, to the point where they wouldn't kill our ancient and just sat outside of spawn killing us over and over. Drow had some retarded +300 damage thing which meant everyone was killed super quickly, and Pudge would pull people out for the drow to rape. Very distressing.

You should sell your items and make Force Staff in that case.

 

[Zed]

You should alt-f4 and not waste time.

 

[Castanova]

Don't they have an option to vote to resign the game? Or is that only HoN?

 

[Padre]

Only in HoN, dotards call that unmanly to concede a lost game before it's truly over (shrine down).

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Just had an unmonocle game. Got raped by the other team, to the point where they wouldn't kill our ancient and just sat outside of spawn killing us over and over. Drow had some retarded +300 damage thing which meant everyone was killed super quickly, and Pudge would pull people out for the drow to rape. Very distressing.

Seems like the LoL community is seeping into other crevices. Excellent.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Everything was ok in the end. Next game I played sand king and won and discovered that sand king is pretty damn cool!

 

[Castanova]

deuxhero with 1.5 hours played.
Me with no beta key and probably >100 hours just watching Dota2 streams.

Life.

 

[Wulfstand]

Would that I could grant you a key, man. Which reminds me, do those who received an invite from me also get 2 beta invites? It wouldn't make much sense, but still, no harm in asking.
It seems like the some of the next heroes we'll be receiving are Syllabear, Lycanthrope and that black dog, Shadow Demon, right? Overall pretty cool, although I'm expecting next patch to receive something in between Gyrocopter and Templar Assassin, since those heroes are almost done.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

No idea on how or why they give extra keys. I've had it on my account (Never got a key, they just activated it on here) for probably a couple weeks now with no extra keys showing up.