Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[murloc_gypsy]

Day 1 Purchase torrenting

 

[Stainless Veteran]

To be fair, I've never met anyone who would defend female genital mutilation.

Well, that's offtopic, of course, but there was quite a few people, even women, who defended this atrocity.

Spoiler

Tolerance versus human rights
Anthropologist Eric Silverman writes that FGM is one of the "central moral topics of contemporary anthropology." Anthropologists have accused FGM eradicationists of cultural colonialism; they, in turn, have been criticized for their cultural and moral relativism toward FGM, and a failure to defend the idea of universal human rights.[177] The debate highlights a tension between anthropology and feminism, with the former's focus on tolerance and the latter's on rights for all women, raising questions about the extent to which an embrace of multiculturalism implies that different standards ought to apply to African women. The French Association of Anthropologists accused feminists, in 1981, of reviving "the moralistic arrogance of yesterday's colonialism."[178]

Anthropologists challenging the opposition to FGM include Richard Shweder, Janice Boddy, Carla Obermeyer, Ellen Gruenbaum and Fuambai Ahmadu, who was cut as an adult during a Sande society initiation in Sierra Leone.[180] Shweder argues against the idea of universal human rights, but maintains that if a rights perspective is adopted, it must take other rights into account, such as the right of African women to self-determination and freedom of religion.[181]

Ugandan law professor Sylvia Tamale writes that early Western opposition to FGM stemmed from a Judeo-Christian judgment that African sexual culture, including not only FGM but also dry sex, polygyny and levirate marriage, was primitive and required correction. She cautions that, while African feminists "do not condone the negative aspects of the practice, they take strong exception to the imperialist, racist and dehumanising infantilization of African women," inherent in much of the opposition.[182] A common trope in the literature about FGM, according to Christine J. Walley, is to present African women as "mentally castrated," participating in their own oppression and destruction as a result of false consciousness. Fran Hosken and the American feminist Mary Daly both promoted that position in the 1970s.[183]

As an example of the disrespect, historian Chima Korieh cites the publication by 12 American newspapers of the FGM ceremony of a 16-year-old girl in Kenya in 1996. The photographs won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography, but according to Korieh the girl had not given permission for the images to be published or even taken.[184]

One of the areas of dispute is whether the medical evidence supports that FGM is invariably harmful. Shweder argues that it does not, citing reviews of the medical literature by epidemiologist Carla Obermeyer, who suggested in 1999 and 2003 that serious complications are the exception.[185] Gerry Mackie disputed Obermeyer's findings.[186] Shweder also cites a 2001 study by Linda Morison of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine that looked at the reproductive health consequences of Type II FGM in the Gambia; Morison concluded that there were few differences between the circumcised and uncircumcised women.[187]

 

[RandomAccount]

it's quite possible to find a human being that defends anything you choose to discuss...

 

[Caim]

So according to those African feminists it's better to have your vagina mutilated than to have your opinion match those of the former colonial forces?

Oh for fuck's sake...

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

So according to those African feminists it's better to have your vagina mutilated than to have your opinion match those of the former colonial forces?

Oh for fuck's sake...

 

[Space Satan]

Look what twitter got us, a perfect portait of an average bioware product consumer

P.S. Nevertheless, this retarded dwarf, Sandal, was one of the few characters in Dragon Age series, that Bioware managed to fuel with some personality, even with only a few lines.

 

[dryan]

Look what twitter got us, a perfect portait of an average bioware product consumer

Face looks too masculine to be a Biowhore.

 

[Avellion]

Look what twitter got us, a perfect portait of an average bioware product consumer

P.S. Nevertheless, this retarded dwarf, Sandal, was one of the few characters in Dragon Age series, that Bioware managed to fuel with some personality, even with only a few lines.

I don't know about that, the image captures the retardation but not the degeneracy,

There, added a body pillow of Garrus in the image, that should convey the nature of the Biodrone better, now he looks retarded and degenerate... but even then I do not feel like it is enough.

That said, nice to know about the crafting video tommorow, I can't wait to see how badly they botched it.

 

[Jools]

Look what twitter got us, a perfect portait of an average bioware product consumer

Face looks too masculine to be a Biowhore.

Character background: originally a girl, Olga underwent massive hormone treatments to look like a crack dealer's bodyguard from Salford. She now goes by the name of Helmut, he likes to kill pitbulls barehanded and raping straight men.

 

[Telengard]

There, added a body pillow of Garrus in the image, that should convey the nature of the Biodrone better, now he looks retarded and degenerate... but even then I do not feel like it is enough.

That said, nice to know about the crafting video tommorow, I can't wait to see how badly they botched it.

 

[GarfunkeL]

To be fair, I've never met anyone who would defend female genital mutilation.

Well, that's offtopic, of course, but there was quite a few people, even women, who defended this atrocity.

Spoiler

Tolerance versus human rights
Anthropologist Eric Silverman writes that FGM is one of the "central moral topics of contemporary anthropology." Anthropologists have accused FGM eradicationists of cultural colonialism; they, in turn, have been criticized for their cultural and moral relativism toward FGM, and a failure to defend the idea of universal human rights.[177] The debate highlights a tension between anthropology and feminism, with the former's focus on tolerance and the latter's on rights for all women, raising questions about the extent to which an embrace of multiculturalism implies that different standards ought to apply to African women. The French Association of Anthropologists accused feminists, in 1981, of reviving "the moralistic arrogance of yesterday's colonialism."[178]

Anthropologists challenging the opposition to FGM include Richard Shweder, Janice Boddy, Carla Obermeyer, Ellen Gruenbaum and Fuambai Ahmadu, who was cut as an adult during a Sande society initiation in Sierra Leone.[180] Shweder argues against the idea of universal human rights, but maintains that if a rights perspective is adopted, it must take other rights into account, such as the right of African women to self-determination and freedom of religion.[181]

Ugandan law professor Sylvia Tamale writes that early Western opposition to FGM stemmed from a Judeo-Christian judgment that African sexual culture, including not only FGM but also dry sex, polygyny and levirate marriage, was primitive and required correction. She cautions that, while African feminists "do not condone the negative aspects of the practice, they take strong exception to the imperialist, racist and dehumanising infantilization of African women," inherent in much of the opposition.[182] A common trope in the literature about FGM, according to Christine J. Walley, is to present African women as "mentally castrated," participating in their own oppression and destruction as a result of false consciousness. Fran Hosken and the American feminist Mary Daly both promoted that position in the 1970s.[183]

As an example of the disrespect, historian Chima Korieh cites the publication by 12 American newspapers of the FGM ceremony of a 16-year-old girl in Kenya in 1996. The photographs won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography, but according to Korieh the girl had not given permission for the images to be published or even taken.[184]

One of the areas of dispute is whether the medical evidence supports that FGM is invariably harmful. Shweder argues that it does not, citing reviews of the medical literature by epidemiologist Carla Obermeyer, who suggested in 1999 and 2003 that serious complications are the exception.[185] Gerry Mackie disputed Obermeyer's findings.[186] Shweder also cites a 2001 study by Linda Morison of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine that looked at the reproductive health consequences of Type II FGM in the Gambia; Morison concluded that there were few differences between the circumcised and uncircumcised women.[187]

And no-one has heard of Eric Silverman or Sylvia Tamale, because they are batshit crazy. You will always find batshit crazy.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

To be fair, I've never met anyone who would defend female genital mutilation.

Well, that's offtopic, of course, but there was quite a few people, even women, who defended this atrocity.

Spoiler

Tolerance versus human rights
Anthropologist Eric Silverman writes that FGM is one of the "central moral topics of contemporary anthropology." Anthropologists have accused FGM eradicationists of cultural colonialism; they, in turn, have been criticized for their cultural and moral relativism toward FGM, and a failure to defend the idea of universal human rights.[177] The debate highlights a tension between anthropology and feminism, with the former's focus on tolerance and the latter's on rights for all women, raising questions about the extent to which an embrace of multiculturalism implies that different standards ought to apply to African women. The French Association of Anthropologists accused feminists, in 1981, of reviving "the moralistic arrogance of yesterday's colonialism."[178]

Anthropologists challenging the opposition to FGM include Richard Shweder, Janice Boddy, Carla Obermeyer, Ellen Gruenbaum and Fuambai Ahmadu, who was cut as an adult during a Sande society initiation in Sierra Leone.[180] Shweder argues against the idea of universal human rights, but maintains that if a rights perspective is adopted, it must take other rights into account, such as the right of African women to self-determination and freedom of religion.[181]

Ugandan law professor Sylvia Tamale writes that early Western opposition to FGM stemmed from a Judeo-Christian judgment that African sexual culture, including not only FGM but also dry sex, polygyny and levirate marriage, was primitive and required correction. She cautions that, while African feminists "do not condone the negative aspects of the practice, they take strong exception to the imperialist, racist and dehumanising infantilization of African women," inherent in much of the opposition.[182] A common trope in the literature about FGM, according to Christine J. Walley, is to present African women as "mentally castrated," participating in their own oppression and destruction as a result of false consciousness. Fran Hosken and the American feminist Mary Daly both promoted that position in the 1970s.[183]

As an example of the disrespect, historian Chima Korieh cites the publication by 12 American newspapers of the FGM ceremony of a 16-year-old girl in Kenya in 1996. The photographs won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography, but according to Korieh the girl had not given permission for the images to be published or even taken.[184]

One of the areas of dispute is whether the medical evidence supports that FGM is invariably harmful. Shweder argues that it does not, citing reviews of the medical literature by epidemiologist Carla Obermeyer, who suggested in 1999 and 2003 that serious complications are the exception.[185] Gerry Mackie disputed Obermeyer's findings.[186] Shweder also cites a 2001 study by Linda Morison of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine that looked at the reproductive health consequences of Type II FGM in the Gambia; Morison concluded that there were few differences between the circumcised and uncircumcised women.[187]

And no-one has heard of Eric Silverman or Sylvia Tamale, because they are batshit crazy. You will always find batshit crazy.

Spoiler

If we're talking about anthropologists, then:
Richard Shweder (past president of the Society for Psychological Anthropology. Shweder was the winner of the 1982 AAAS Prize for Behavioral Science Research, and the recipient of academic awards and research grants.) — has at least 356 works and citations, highest cited work is "Thinking through cultures: Expeditions in cultural psychology" (cited 1424 times) [src]
Janice Boddy (Professor of Anthropology at the University of Toronto) — has at least 90 distinct works and citations (including "Womb as oasis: the symbolic context of pharaonic circumcision in rural Northern Sudan" where she defends female genital mutilation, cited 210 times), highest cited work is "Wombs and alien spirits: Women, men, and the Zar cult in northern Sudan" (cited 683 times). [src]
Carla Obermeyer (American medical anthropologist and epidemiologist, Associate Professor of Population and International Health at Harvard University) — has at least 116 distinct works and citations, among them "Female genital surgeries: The known, the unknown, and the unknowable" (in this paper she critiqued the West's opposition to female genital mutilation on the grounds of cultural and sexual identity and states that there are lack of accurate information on post-genital-mutilation complications, cited 209 times) [src]
Ellen Gruenbaum (medical anthropologist, Professor of Anthropology at Purdue University College of Liberal Arts) — has at least 55 distinct works and citations, among them her highest cited work "The female circumcision controversy: an anthropological perspective" (cited 302 times). [src]
Fuambai Ahmadu (Sierra Leonean-American anthropologist, obtained her PhD in social anthropology from the London School of Economics and undertook post-doctoral work at the Department of Comparative Human Development, University of Chicago), — has a rather meager 10 distinct works, but her paper "Rites and wrongs: An insider/outsider reflects on power and excision", where she defends practice of female genital mutilations was cited 144 times [src].

As for aforementioned Sylvia Tamale and Eric Silverman, former received her Master of Laws (LLM) from Harvard Law School, and her Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), in Sociology and Feminist Studies from the University of Minnesota in 1997, and her highest cited work is (amusingly named) "When hens begin to crow: gender and parliamentary politics in Uganda" (cited 195 times). Later one is indeed kinda shit tier (American cultural anthropologist, Associate Professor of American Studies and Chair, Psychology and Human Development at Wheelock College in Boston), but nonetheless his paper "Anthropology and circumcision" was cited 53 times.

In conclusion, while they are condoning one of the most vile practices in human population, and thus being either hypocrites or dumbfucks, their credentials and h-index are, sadly, quite real.

 

[Jools]

Anthropology. LOL. The one """discipline""" that even the academia looks down on as being only one step above gender studies.

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

that smile on elementalist



and grenades full of bees

 

[pippin]

Who did those illustrations? Someone at Bio should make that person draw a comic book. I'd probably acquire it, even if it's about DA.

 

[Delterius]

and grenades full of bees

 

[catfood]

Wow, these are amazing. Such a shame theyre being squandered on a turd like DA3.

 

[Avellion]

that smile on elementalist



and grenades full of bees

That is some nice artwork, I dont know if I am the only one that feels this, but I feel like the artwork will be the best (read only good) thing to come out of this game.

And really, they barely showed off the crafting.

 

[Psquit]

Look what twitter got us, a perfect portait of an average bioware product consumer

Slav as fuck

 

[Morality Games]

... what if its good?

 

[Jaesun]

Define "good"? Another million dollar dumbed down shitty console action game?

 

[Morality Games]

Define "good"? Another million dollar dumbed down shitty console action game?

In a lightweight contender Dragonfall sort of way.

 

[Jaesun]

Both games are shitty dumbed down console action games, how can one or the other be "Good".

 

[Morality Games]

Both games are shitty dumbed down console action games, how can one or the other be "Good".

In the same way that lightweight boxers demonstrate skill against one another, but get rick rolled under the raw size and strength of heavyweight champions.

 

[Jools]

Wow, these are amazing. Such a shame theyre being squandered on a turd like DA3.

I was just thinking that. I quite like that artistic style. Top left reminds of Quinton Hoover, my absolute favourite M:tG artist.