Game News Dragon Age: The Dwarf Returns

[Sceptic]

I don't understand why ME2 and DAO are so different in terms of "maturity."

The writers in DAO obviously think maturity = childish sex joke, this coming from a college student who makes childish sex jokes all the time but realizes they are immature and proud of that fact.

You've got it the other way round. College students make childish sex jokes and think this is what being mature is about. They most certainly don't realize they're being immature. This is what DAO does: it's constantly being immature with its depictions of blood, sex and so on, yet it also takes itself deadly seriously in every aspect, not just the "mature" ones. Look at Leliana singing for fuck's sake. It comes completely out of nowhere, there's the stupid invisible orchestra playing, the hilarious facial expressions on everyone, her cringe-inducing voice... and it's all meant to be dramatic and moving. Now contrast it with Mordin singing in ME2: it comes completely out of nowhere, it's played for laughs, it's clearly meant to be ridiculous (pay attention to the words) and then there's this really embarrassed look he has when he stops. It works much better because it's not taking itself seriously. If you strip away the terribad Collector shit from ME2 the rest of the game is pretty lulzy like this.

It doesn't change the fact both games are shit in terms of gameplay, but that's another matter.

 

[Mangoose]

I don't understand why ME2 and DAO are so different in terms of "maturity."

The writers in DAO obviously think maturity = childish sex joke, this coming from a college student who makes childish sex jokes all the time but realizes they are immature and proud of that fact.

You've got it the other way round. College students make childish sex jokes and think this is what being mature is about. They most certainly don't realize they're being immature.

Well, this college student does. I like being immature (just like all you fags here).

But yeah, I know other students like that. I would say it's more older adolescents that think they are being "mature" though. And out-of-college nerds who have been out of the social loop who like Gaider devour cliche fantasy themes they think are edgy.

If you strip away the terribad Collector shit from ME2 the rest of the game is pretty lulzy like this.

Yeah. ME2 still covers some mature (especially for contemporary gaming) issues such as the aforementioned family issues and the krogan virus. It's good for what it is.

 

[Freelance Henchman]

Another interesting "mature" theme in ME2 was the handling of the Geth. They were pretty much your common-or-garden Evil Robotz in ME1, but in ME2 we learn that they had a deep semi-religious schism likely engineered by the Reaper Sovereign.

Then, on Tali's loyalty mission you get to talk a bit to the Quarian generals, some of whom are itching to finally attack to get back their homeworld, for the reason alone that their ships are falling apart faster already than they are getting replaced. At least one general though wants to try for peace, because he actually agrees that the Geth were basically a slave race that rose up against their enslavers who were about to exterminate them.

The Geth themselves learn a lesson about life in a way later when Legion sees on the Heretic Base that the heretics have been spying on them without their knowledge, which comes as a complete surprise to Legion, who had assumed that the heretics, as all Geth, would respect each other and not go behind their backs like this. The surprise and dismay in that robot's voice was nicely played I thought.

Looking back now, I have to say that the DA characters really were pretty damn weak, while ME2 now ranks for me as the 2nd best 3D shooter/RPG hybrid behind the original Deus Ex. :shock:

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

It's even weirder considering ME1 didn't have particularly good characters.

Still a bit surprised that I enjoyed the DUMBED DOWN CONSOLETARD POPAMOLE Mass Effect 2 more than the party RPG PC master race Dragon Age. Writing just seemed so much better in ME2, and the Bioware problem of always overpopulating every area with enemies to grind through in combat was much worse in DA.

For instance, I got to the Landsmeet. I'm in the big city. It's supposed to be a meeting of nobles hanging out deciding what's going to happen. Next thing I know I'm in some noble's house hacking through dozens and dozens of guards in combat, dungeon crawling. What the fuck. Spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2 my ass, BG2 never seemed nearly as ridiculous for constant combat encounters.

 

[Volourn]

"It's even weirder considering ME1 didn't have particularly good characters. "

Bullshit.



"BG2 never seemed nearly as ridiculous for constant combat encounters."

What version of BG2 did you fuckin' play? LMFAO