Interview Dungeon Siege III Interview

[IronicNeurotic]

sure, only problem is that fore players get to the point of managing 1 of each class, they'd have to be hooked into the game first. how will that happen if you're forced to play a different class bec. you can't find a game where your favorite can enter? what if you only want to focus on one character to get to high-end game content faster but you can't because everyone's playing that class? what if a lot of people loved a particular class in SP and wanted to play that class in MP a week after release, but can't because mostly everyone wants to play that class?

players will give up looking for games rather than roll other classes just to get into games, I can assure you of that.

That...

Comes down to balancing. Apart from that you draw here conclusions of information we just don't have.

 

[Cynic]

The graphics whore in me says this game looks fantastic. Yeah it's a mindless dungeon crawler, but it'll be fun to play, co-op makes it even more enticing.

But, what is really more exciting is the possibility of this engine being used for IWD III. If you look at the NY Comic Con videos where they showed it off, the camera can definitely pull back a fair bit.

So basically Onyx Engine + D&D + IWD = epic chance of win.

 

[Jaesun]

Then there's the D&D 4th ed problem Cynic....

 

[Cynic]

I never played D&D past second edition so I actually don't know what changed in 3rd and 4th, I think I had a browse of the handbooks for 3rd and seemed like lots of class restrictions were relaxed, which I thought was a bit lame maybe...but not entirely sure.

What are the big differences for 4th edition?

 

[Jaesun]

I just got my 4th ed book a while ago, so I haven't given the rulebook a good look over yet. Perhaps one of our resident D&D geeks could explain the WOW faggotry people mention, in detail? Other than LOL D&D 4th ed == WOW lolollll!!!

 

[Cynic]

Ohhh ok. Yeah I would like to know what the big differences are.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

well according to those who aren't completely happy with it 4E is kinda like this bros

 

[Cynic]

fucking lol

I guess I quit at the right time.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Ig they survive to make another 10 games, of which another 3 are good and 2 are excellent - leaving a solid 50% of utter stinkers, so I'm not cocksucking here) that gives them an overall record of 4 excellent games (still less than Arcanum and Bloodlines, so 'excellent', not 'all-time-leader', and 4 good games.

You seem to be working under the assumption that Obsidian released 10 games. They released just 6 (4 if you don't count the expansions...) and they have their 7th (5th) in the pipeline:

KoTOR 2 - good but it could have been much more
NWN2 - acceptable, far better than the original NWN though
NWN2: MotB - fantastic
NWN2: SoZ - haven't played it yet
Alpha Protocol - underappreciated, some things could have been much better
Fallout: New Vegas - haven't played it yet
DS3 (work in progress)

The number 10 present in all the press hype is, most likely, because they count all the games their group worked on since the beginning, which means that they count Fallout 2, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale 2. But it's pretty disingenuous to count these as Obsidian games. By that standard, you could just go ahead and count Fallout as a Troika game... and the balance would hang even more in Troika's favor then.

The 'Ig' was meant to read 'If'

I was NOT saying that they have released 10 games. I was saying that IF they release another 10 or so games, what their overall standing as a crpg company will be. I was comparing the merits of the Troika 'brilliant flash and then it dies' v Obsidian's 'lots of shite with the occasional gem' strategy.

 

[Jaesun]

That wasn't really helpful sgc_meltdown. I am dissapoint.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

That wasn't really helpful sgc_meltdown. I am dissapoint.

oh stop it you hussy

 

[Cynic]

these are gold. Many lolz still left. Keep 'em coming. I now hate 4th Edition with a passion without knowing anything about it really.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

 

[Cynic]

These are some of the best infographics evar haha, full of win and lols

 

[Jaesun]

ok these are now hilarious sgc_meltdown. I am no longer disappoint.

Now detail why 4th ed is LOL WOW.

 

[Shannow]

Then there's the D&D 4th ed real time problem Cynic....

Fixed

The info pics are confusing.
According to the first 3rd ED is the best (which it, IMO);
accordingt to the second the 2nd ED is best and the 3rd ED is anime
and according to the third the 1st ED is the best and the others are shit.
The only thing they have in common is that the 4th ED is shit...oh, wait...

 

[Arcanoix]

That wasn't really helpful sgc_meltdown. I am dissapoint.

oh stop it you hussy

 

[DwarvenFood]

Haha Nosferatu FTW. Post some more stuff mang. Too bad most stuff already is failed at edition 3.

 

[skuphundaku]

The 'Ig' was meant to read 'If'

I know, Everyone misspells sometimes.

I was NOT saying that they have released 10 games. I was saying that IF they release another 10 or so games, what their overall standing as a crpg company will be. I was comparing the merits of the Troika 'brilliant flash and then it dies' v Obsidian's 'lots of shite with the occasional gem' strategy.

I got that point, but I was being pedantic because it seemed that they're getting away with bullshitting people by counting Black Isle era games to their resume. IronicNeurotic later made me aware that the 10 figure comes from counting their abandoned projects as well, so Project Virginia is counted as their 10th project not their 10th game. That makes sense given that they abandoned the Aliens RPG and I haven't heard almost anything of substance about the Wheel of Time game, which might have been abandoned altogether already.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

The 'Ig' was meant to read 'If'

I know, Everyone misspells sometimes.

I was NOT saying that they have released 10 games. I was saying that IF they release another 10 or so games, what their overall standing as a crpg company will be. I was comparing the merits of the Troika 'brilliant flash and then it dies' v Obsidian's 'lots of shite with the occasional gem' strategy.

I got that point, but I was being pedantic because it seemed that they're getting away with bullshitting people by counting Black Isle era games to their resume. IronicNeurotic later made me aware that the 10 figure comes from counting their abandoned projects as well, so Project Virginia is counted as their 10th project not their 10th game. That makes sense given that they abandoned the Aliens RPG and I haven't heard almost anything of substance about the Wheel of Time game, which might have been abandoned altogether already.

They are talking from their time at Black Isle too but only if they are asked or the subject is relevant. Most of the time they only refrence games of other companies or their own.

Wheel of time doesn't count by the way. The two cancelled projects are: Aliens: Crucible and Seven Dwarves (That game Annie was talking about)

So 6 shipped titles/1 in development/2 cancelled